Nvidia stock falls 11% after China's 🇨🇳 DeepSeek powerful AI goes open source.

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26-01-2025, 05:15 PM

Buying anyone ? Big Grin

Update#2 - Monday morning 27 Jan US market
https://www.cnbc.com/2025/01/27/nvidia-f...l-off.html

Update#1 - Monday morning 27 Jan European market
https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/n...024-08-29/

https://www.nasdaq.com/articles/nvidia-n...l-only-56m

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26-01-2025, 05:18 PM

Obeegood.

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26-01-2025, 05:21 PM

On Jan 20 2025, Hangzhou-based DeepSeek, a relatively unknown AI research lab from China, released an open source model that’s quickly become the talk of the town in Silicon Valley. DeepSeek-R1 beats the industry’s leading models like OpenAI o1 on several math and reasoning benchmarks. In fact, on many metrics that matter—capability, cost, openness—DeepSeek is giving Western AI giants a run for their money.

https://www.wired.com/story/deepseek-china-model-ai/

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26-01-2025, 05:26 PM

Chinese AI makers have learned to build powerful AI models that perform just short of the U.S.'s most advanced competition while using far less money, chips and power. Why it matters: American policies restricting the flow of top-end AI semiconductors and know-how to China may have helped maintain a short U.S. lead at the outer reaches of the AI performance curve — BUT they've also accelerated Chinese progress in building high-end AI more efficiently.

https://www.axios.com/2025/01/17/deepsee...a-ai-model

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26-01-2025, 05:29 PM

Why angmoh AI models need so much computing power leh? Lots of repetitions and redundancies and no optimisation. Now these young ahtiongs teach them how to do it correctly

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26-01-2025, 05:31 PM

Here is one e.g. when I tried a simple arthematic question on DeepSeek R1-Zero release using RL (reinforcement learning), which came back in 5 seconds explaining its solution and REASONING why it came to that solutions. That is the "Aha Moment" that is explain in the Deepseek research documentation... Basically the AI now "thinks" and learns like a human. Big Grin

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26-01-2025, 06:07 PM

Deepseek is using 50,000 NVIDIA H100. How it affect Nvidia’s stock price.

https://wccftech.com/chinese-ai-lab-deep...i-ceo/amp/

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26-01-2025, 06:24 PM

(26-01-2025, 06:07 PM)revealer Wrote: Deepseek is using 50,000 NVIDIA H100. How it affect Nvidia’s stock price.

https://wccftech.com/chinese-ai-lab-deep...i-ceo/amp/

He’s talking cock because his company will be out of business tomorrow

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26-01-2025, 06:29 PM

(26-01-2025, 06:24 PM)goodboy Wrote: He’s talking cock because his company will be out of business tomorrow

LOL! Good one....you beat me to it knowing this CEO is based in US and his coy depends on OpenAI, Google etc for their business in tagging AI data.

Here is the interview when he claimed Deepseek has "50,000 H100" during recent Davo summit... Big Grin

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26-01-2025, 06:59 PM

So, Trump says to position US as AI leader is chui kong lampa song only.

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26-01-2025, 07:06 PM

Many are scammed on the hardware is the deciding factor.

Software is still the key. The brain behind...

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26-01-2025, 07:13 PM

(26-01-2025, 07:06 PM)Niubee Wrote: Many are scammed on the hardware is the deciding factor.

Software is still the key. The brain behind...

Hardware needs to be 100% functional on the given spec if not got to use software to do covering up.

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26-01-2025, 07:14 PM

Ds may hv 50k nvidia gpu, but it doesn't need so many for training its models lah

A gd guest is well below 2k, or maybe just a handful. That's for training. As for testing and execution, a normal laptop or hp can already

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26-01-2025, 07:16 PM

The idea it is cheap lah. Rotfl

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26-01-2025, 07:19 PM

(26-01-2025, 06:07 PM)revealer Wrote: Deepseek is using 50,000 NVIDIA H100. How it affect Nvidia’s stock price.

https://wccftech.com/chinese-ai-lab-deep...i-ceo/amp/

The FLG pundek revealer doesn't know that Deepseek run on lower end chips. Laughing

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26-01-2025, 08:33 PM

(26-01-2025, 07:19 PM)aiptasia Wrote: The FLG pundek revealer doesn't know that Deepseek run on lower end chips.

https://www.technologyreview.com/2025/01...sanctions/

Yes. It is on normal Desktop/Laptop not Server
Because Us embargo of high end chips to Cn,
Cn AI development is almost all meant run with 12nm and above chips.

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27-01-2025, 01:27 AM

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27-01-2025, 01:40 AM

need some advice who ish SURE notch happy about this lololololooolol... Tongue

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27-01-2025, 04:21 PM

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27-01-2025, 11:18 PM

Is this a market correct or an over reaction ? Big Grin

(Bloomberg 27 Jan 2025) -- Chinese artificial intelligence startup DeepSeek’s latest AI model sparked a $1 trillion rout in US and European technology stocks, as investors questioned bloated valuations for some of America’s biggest companies. DeepSeek’s latest AI model rose to the top of the Apple’s appstore charts over the weekend, presenting a visible challenge to costlier models like OpenAI

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27-01-2025, 11:21 PM

(26-01-2025, 06:07 PM)revealer Wrote: Deepseek is using 50,000 NVIDIA H100. How it affect Nvidia’s stock price.

https://wccftech.com/chinese-ai-lab-deep...i-ceo/amp/

china CHEAT LIED AND STEAL
got evident

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27-01-2025, 11:29 PM

(26-01-2025, 06:07 PM)revealer Wrote: Deepseek is using 50,000 NVIDIA H100. How it affect Nvidia’s stock price.

https://wccftech.com/chinese-ai-lab-deep...i-ceo/amp/

That Scale AI chink CEO is an absolute liar. Laughing

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27-01-2025, 11:30 PM

(27-01-2025, 11:21 PM)grotesqueness Wrote: china CHEAT LIED AND STEAL got evident

grotesqueness's USA stock market now having a massive melt down over a Chinese AI open source app...

Hmmmm.... Big Grin

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27-01-2025, 11:31 PM

(27-01-2025, 11:29 PM)Niubee Wrote: That Scale AI chink CEO is an absolute liar.

you are the bastard that cheat lied and steal most often

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27-01-2025, 11:35 PM

(27-01-2025, 11:31 PM)grotesqueness Wrote: you are the bastard that cheat lied and steal most often

5 years ago it was Huawei, 2 year ago BYD, 9 months ago DJI, then 6 month ago Tik Tok...

I can see why grotesqueness now want DeepSeek ban from USA.. Big Grin

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27-01-2025, 11:52 PM

(27-01-2025, 11:35 PM)Manthink Wrote: 5 years ago it was Huawei, 2 year ago BYD, 9 months ago DJI, then 6 month ago Tik Tok...

I can see why grotesqueness now want DeepSeek ban from USA..

He is Yankee best cok sucker in Sgtalk Rotfl

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28-01-2025, 12:53 AM

(27-01-2025, 11:35 PM)Manthink Wrote: 5 years ago it was Huawei, 2 year ago BYD, 9 months ago DJI, then 6 month ago Tik Tok...

I can see why grotesqueness now want DeepSeek ban from USA..

you chow cheese pie dont forget china started the ban first not usa

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28-01-2025, 01:24 AM

It is -17% now.

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28-01-2025, 02:30 AM

must ban must ban if notch SURE GOTCH PEEPUR NOTCH HAPPY about this lololololol... Tongue

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28-01-2025, 02:46 AM

(26-01-2025, 06:07 PM)revealer Wrote: Deepseek is using 50,000 NVIDIA H100. How it affect Nvidia’s stock price.

Nasdaq Composite

19,295.40
−658.91 (-3.30%) today 27 Jan, 1:45 pm GMT-5
.............

NVIDIA Corp

118.92 USD
−23.69 (-16.61%) today
27 Jan, 1:46 pm GMT-5
..............

Alphabet Inc Class C
194.98 USD
−6.92 (-3.43%) today
27 Jan, 2:00 pm GMT-5
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