[Blasterlord2]

Read properly. I did not say VB lied. I said it was an untruth which is material and which he/they must clarify immediately... as least according to ET's logic.

Why didn't they clarify immediately? If they didnt, then why expect WP to clarify immediately?

I also never said I want cop every time a minister made a mistake.

I'm just telling you that both TT and this are very different matter. One amounts to lying in parliament and the other is not. I am retorting those who think that they are the same. If you're not one of those then the retort is not for you.

But obviously RK's lying is a much more serious matter than TT, so for PS not to do anything for 2 months, not even a question asked of her, is unthinkable.

[Gstalk]

Good logic, what you said  makes good sense.  RK must come clean, else the whole of WP credibility hangs on a balance....

How cu.m the ministars and po.lice never cu.m clean immediately in the TT saga? Why wait after 6 months or so?? This untruth is more serious as it is spoken from a ministar and it affects more people during the critical pandemic where people die/ can die


No?

[*天哥*]

I'm just telling you that both TT and this are very different matter. One amounts to lying in parliament and the other is not. I am retorting those who think that they are the same. If you're not one of those then the retort is not for you.

But obviously RK's lying is a much more serious matter than TT, so for PS not to do anything for 2 months, not even a question asked of her, is unthinkable.

Very well said.

In TT case, unless u are a criminal or doing something dirty like fucking mistresses, u have no fear of mata using ur info. In fact, u should celebrate the mata to have access to the TT data. It will make us all safer. Anyway there are CCTV everywhere already. So it is many or mata versus one culprit.

In lying in parliament, it is one representing many and many relying on one parliament.

See the difference ?

[*天哥*]

Warn u all, dun make LKY rise up.

[*天哥*]

I want COP to get to the very bottom and dig and dig and dig....cos I DO NOT WANT LKY TO GET UP.

[*天哥*]

There is NO PRIVACY ISSUE IN TT CASE because ONLY MATA HAVE ACCESS TO THE DATA. PROTECTING YOUR PRIVACY IS THEIR JOB if you are a good boy. Hence I assume VB did not even aware of this TT ability to provide info to the police. But even this, ONLY THE POLICE IT DEPT have access and NOBODY ELSE.

Like i said, Unless you F...k around, why worry ?

I always have mata approaching me since I like to hang out in the darkness of the night. I celebrate their action and feel safe. True incident.

Once I was in my car alone in ECP early morning 2am, not fucking anyone. Suddenly a mata car stopped and an officer asked me what I was doing. I told him I was sad...and he advised me to go home since it is very unsafe to be alone at this hour.

That time no TT but got CCTV.

Get it ?

[Gstalk]

Is it okay for ministars to tell untruth in parLeement? They have already taken the oath to tell the truth when they were appointed.

So is it okay for ministars to tell untruth?

[*天哥*]

Is it okay for ministars to tell untruth in parLeement? They have already taken the oath to tell the truth when they were appointed.

So is it okay for ministars to tell untruth?

I m not saying it is ok. I m telling u..VB most likely dunno about TT ability.

[Blasterlord2]

There is NO PRIVACY ISSUE IN TT CASE because ONLY MATA HAVE ACCESS TO THE DATA. PROTECTING YOUR PRIVACY IS THEIR JOB if you are a good boy. Hence I assume VB did not even aware of this TT ability to provide info to the police. But even this, ONLY THE POLICE IT DEPT have access and NOBODY ELSE.

Like i said, Unless you F...k around, why worry ?

I always have mata approaching me since I like to hang out in the darkness of the night. I celebrate their action and feel safe. True incident.

Once I was in my car alone in ECP early morning 2am, not fucking anyone. Suddenly a mata car stopped and an officer asked me what I was doing. I told him I was sad...and he advised me to go home since it is very unsafe to be alone at this hour.

That time no TT but got CCTV.

Get it ?

You're batman? 

[RiseofAsia]

For ET to be able to get KH such a light sentence is already a big achievement.

Your logic is very strange?
This is not called big achievement.
Big achievement means help alot ppl.

Help a 神棍 to get a lighter sentence shd not call a big achievement.

[luncheonmeat]

There is NO PRIVACY ISSUE IN TT CASE because ONLY MATA HAVE ACCESS TO THE DATA. PROTECTING YOUR PRIVACY IS THEIR JOB if you are a good boy. Hence I assume VB did not even aware of this TT ability to provide info to the police. But even this, ONLY THE POLICE IT DEPT have access and NOBODY ELSE.

Like i said, Unless you F...k around, why worry ?

I always have mata approaching me since I like to hang out in the darkness of the night. I celebrate their action and feel safe. True incident.

Once I was in my car alone in ECP early morning 2am, not fucking anyone. Suddenly a mata car stopped and an officer asked me what I was doing. I told him I was sad...and he advised me to go home since it is very unsafe to be alone at this hour.

That time no TT but got CCTV.

Get it ?

Once I was sitting at the pavilion/gazebo garden of a hospital dat most pple avoid bcos of lauya reputation. It was 10.45pm and beri quiet. 2 young indian security guards [cisco type if I no recall wrong] came up to me and advised me to leave bcos..... got snakes around dat area.

[Harry Lee]

So who can initiate a cop? Why didn't WP call for COP on the traceapp? Privilege of the natural aristocrats?

[klat]

So who can initiate a cop? Why didn't WP call for COP on the traceapp? Privilege of the natural aristocrats?

WP dont have the majority votes. Always defeated when voting comes.

[Harry Lee]

WP dont have the majority votes. Always defeated when voting comes.

So many dumbfarts says will stop voting WP becos of Raisa. I will still vote for opps even if she didn't resign.

[RichDad]

I'm just telling you that both TT and this are very different matter. One amounts to lying in parliament and the other is not. I am retorting those who think that they are the same. If you're not one of those then the retort is not for you.

But obviously RK's lying is a much more serious matter than TT, so for PS not to do anything for 2 months, not even a question asked of her, is unthinkable.

Ok but you were replying to my post directly.

Sure they are different that's why I said VB didn't lie but told an untruth that is material at that time. They should clarify the falsehood immediately but no. Nothing until Desmond Tan brought it up. Yet they are asking why WP didn't clarify immediately ??

As for RK, PS already said he expects her to clarify the truth after she settles her personal issue. Is it so hard to understand?

Maybe PS was too lax, not firm or strict enough but at least he told her to own up.

If PS had told her to carrying on lying, then it is a different story. So they need to prove it. If not, you cant say he is guilty.

VB? Act blur till Desmond Tan brought it up. Why?

[Blasterlord2]

Ok but you were replying to my post directly.

Sure they are different that's why I said VB didn't lie but told an untruth that is material at that time.  They should clarify the falsehood immediately but no. Nothing until Desmond Tan brought it up. Yet they are asking why WP didn't clarify immediately ??

As for RK, PS already said he expects her to clarify the truth after she settles her personal issue. Is it so hard to understand?

Maybe PS was too lax, not firm or strict enough but at least he told her to own up.

If PS had told her to carrying on lying, then it is a different story.  So they need to prove it. If not, you cant say he is guilty.

VB? Act blur till Desmond Tan brought it up. Why?

I quote your earlier post in this thread:

Why VB tell falsehood in parliament regarding TT, no COP ? Should have COP so that we know the full picture, not hide.

Fair and square.

I'm just telling you they are two matters of very different nature. A COP over TT? Come on, one is about lying in parliament and the other is just pure ignorance of information. How can we even compare the two?

[RichDad]

I quote your earlier post in this thread:


I'm just telling you they are two matters of very different nature. A COP over TT? Come on, one is about lying in parliament and the other is just pure ignorance of information. How can we even compare the two?

Now you quote a different post. Don't think I was replying to you? Ok. I admit that was posted in haste. There are different insofar as RK admitted she lied but VB didn't.

I said falsehood, meaning not true. I didn't say vb lied on purpose. Maybe he did, who knows? Only he knows. But we all gave him the benefit of the doubt, because he is a minister? I dont know.

Now back to what I asked. Why no clarification from VB until Desmond Tan asked? Isn't it worse? Trying to hide something material?

[Yin yang]

Erected reps who lied under oath in parliament must let justice takes its course...if they have to go to jail, so b it.

Pls dont make a mockery of our parliamentary system n rules..

Condoning supporting erected MPs who erred sets a bad precedent .imagine ,.u lie, i lie n everyone else lies in parliament, wat wud become of our revered institution of power.? People , country will go the lying dogs, cats , like an animal farm where LGPTetc happily roam .

N tourist guides will bring tourists from all over the world to see this counstituency or nation of liars, accomplices of liars as majority voted for liars..

[singlon]

HOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[RichDad]

Erected reps who lied under oath in parliament must let justice takes its course...if they have to go to jail, so b it.

Pls dont make a mockery of our parliamentary system n rules..

Condoning supporting erected MPs who erred sets a bad precedent .imagine ,.u lie, i lie n everyone else lies in parliament, wat wud become of our revered institution of power.? People , country will go the lying dogs, cats  , like an animal farm where LGPTetc happily  roam .

N tourist guides will bring tourists from all over the world to see this counstituency or nation of liars, accomplices of liars as majority voted for liars..

Who is supporting lying MPs? The MPs who lied must be punished, no doubt about it. It is wrong to support a person who lied, especially an MP.

But it is also wrong to support witch hunting the members of that MP's party just to bring discredit to that party. It is just a waste of resources and everybody's time.

[RiseofAsia]

I'm just telling you that both TT and this are very different matter. One amounts to lying in parliament and the other is not. I am retorting those who think that they are the same. If you're not one of those then the retort is not for you.

But obviously RK's lying is a much more serious matter than TT, so for PS not to do anything for 2 months, not even a question asked of her, is unthinkable.

What nonsense are you talking?
This is your own definition.

Untrue and lie, what is the difference?

不懂得明辨是非真糟糕！

There is no meaning to keep differentiating who is more wrong or more right. Both VB and RK were in the wrongs.

Once you have made a mistake as long it is not a serious mistake, it shd be given a second chance and need to promise you won’t do it again, otherwise your reputation will be gone.

[klat]

There is no meaning to keep differentiating who is more wrong or more right. Both VB and RK were in the wrongs.

Once you have made a mistake as long it is not a serious mistake, it shd be given a second chance and need to promise you won’t do it again, otherwise your reputation will be gone.

VB made mistakes after mistakes. What happened to him?

[RiseofAsia]

VB made mistakes after mistakes. What happened to him?

Scot-free?
What to do?
Winner set the rules of the game.

[RichDad]

No one should let events or circumstances sway his decision on a political party he has chosen. Only fickle minded does.

RK is just 1 of 2 bad apples that WP picked up but pap got many more bad ones.

Die hard supporters of pap still voted pap. Same, die hard fans of wp will still vote wp.

It is the middle ground that is the issue. Battle of the mid field starts now...

[Sticw]

My point is, his handling the situation is not what a 'normal' person will do. We need not put it into a survey and ask the public, but many will share my view. We could say that PS is unique and handles things different from other people, but the judge doesn't go by that line of thought. He will go by what a person will logically and normally do. For example, if a person has always been using his right hand to hold the spoon to scoop his food and he then tells the judge that in the crime scene he just so decides that he wants to use his left hand, will the judge believe it? 

And there is not one, but a number of illogicalities in PS's statements.

Edit: After some thinking, a better example would be, let's assume that your subordinate and your good friend embezzled money in the company. Out of compassion, you told him that he can settle his family issues first before he accounts for it in the next board meeting. For a period of 2 months you did not question him on his status. Even the day before the board meeting itself, you did not ask him if he has settled his family affairs, nor ask him if he will make a confession in the board meeting the next day. And when he did not confess in the next meeting, you did not ask him why but instead assume that he didn't do so because he hasn't settle his family affairs. You also did not ask him to make a confession in the next day (which also has a board meeting).

Now, tell me, does this sound logical?

There is no analogy that fits a rape case and the person telling the public the truth is the rape victim.

If it was a fraudulence case, I will side ET line of argument and press for WP to be punished for late reporting since they already knew it way upfront.

Rape and victim of rape is the not normal element to the case. 

Again what's so not normal to RK case is that she was so troubled by it for a couple of months but now so readily and OK to go public with it. Also turned key witness against WP for their so call lapsed... Now that's extremely illogical to me...

[debono]

No one should let events or circumstances sway his decision on a political party he has chosen. Only fickle minded does.

The problem is that Singaporeans wants the best of both worlds, they want more opposition parties, but also want the ruling party to be in power, and enjoy the status quo.....

[RiseofAsia]

The problem is that Singaporeans wants the best of both worlds, they want more opposition parties, but also want the ruling party to be in power, and enjoy the status quo.....

Actually, there is no answer?

[RichDad]

There is no analogy that fits a rape case and the person telling the public the truth is the rape victim.

If it was a fraudulence case, I will side ET line of argument and press for WP to be punished for late reporting since they already knew it way upfront.

Rape and victim of rape is the not normal element to the case. 

Again what's so not normal to RK case is that she was so troubled by it for a couple of months but now so readily and OK to go public with it. Also turned key witness against WP for their so call lapsed... Now that's extremely illogical to me...

Yah something seems not right with her. Maybe WP is right that she has some mental issue.

I simply can't believe that WP senior members asked her to keep lying. What for? They jolly well know pappies will bite and not let go.

[Blasterlord2]

Now you quote a different post.  Don't think I was replying to you? Ok. I admit that was posted in haste. There are different insofar as RK admitted she lied but VB didn't.

I said falsehood, meaning not true. I didn't say vb lied on purpose. Maybe he did, who knows? Only he knows. But we all gave him the benefit of the doubt,  because he is a minister? I dont know.

Now back to what I asked. Why no clarification from VB until Desmond Tan asked? Isn't it worse? Trying to hide something material?

Go and see who started the reply. I'm not the one. So I find it strange when you replied to me then you don't expect me to retort back.

As I've said, there's a big difference in the two matters. For one, VB is simply ignorant about the law. The law is simply there and he just misunderstood it. What's there to gain for him by lying about it?

[Dan]

The problem is that Singaporeans wants the best of both worlds, they want more opposition parties, but also want the ruling party to be in power, and enjoy the status quo.....

Who cares what other Singaporeans want? Most important is what you want, to let PAP continue in full power or reduce their majority?