Qns on building the founder memorial hall in Sg.
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Qns on building SG founder memorial hall

1. What is the reason for Singapore to build the founder memorial hall? Does it consider a temple for the pass demise leader? Do we need to follow the Chinese culture like the lunar 7th ghost month? Burn candles, Joss sticker and kim-chóa over there? Will it be a tourist spot like bugis temple ?

2. Do we really need it?

3. How do we know the demise leader feel honor?

4. Did the demise leader request it in the first place?


5. Who benefits from it ? The local citizens or pap gov? Why ?

6. Does it really mean it helps give heritage to the future generations ? For who local born , news citizens and SPR?

7. What will be the environmental impact?
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Can sum1 Ans these questions?
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(03-09-2024, 11:28 AM)Bigiron Wrote:  Can sum1 Ans these questions?

my answer to u:
i do not benefit from it becos i will not go n see  at least need to spend unnescasarily >$2/** bus fares!!
i m negatively affected becos pap  will need to raise some fund directly or indirectly to build n mainten
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Here are the answers to your questions:

1. The Founder's Memorial Hall is being built to honor Singapore's founding leaders, particularly Lee Kuan Yew. It's not intended as a temple, but rather a secular memorial. While it may incorporate some cultural elements, it won't require following specific Chinese customs like burning candles or incense.

2. The need for the memorial hall is debated. Proponents argue it will provide a space for reflection and learning about Singapore's history, while critics see it as an unnecessary expense.

3. It's impossible to know for certain how the deceased leaders feel, but the memorial hall aims to show respect and gratitude for their contributions.

4. There's no indication that the deceased leaders requested a memorial hall.

5. The benefits are likely to be shared between local citizens, who will have a new space for reflection and learning, and the government, which can use the memorial hall for nation-building and tourism purposes.

6. The memorial hall may contribute to Singapore's heritage, but its impact on future generations depends on how it's used and interpreted. It may be more relevant for local-born citizens and SPRs who have a personal connection to Singapore's history.

7. The environmental impact will depend on the design and construction of the memorial hall. If sustainably built, it can minimize its ecological footprint.

Please note that these answers are based on publicly available information and may not reflect the most up-to-date or nuanced views on the topic.
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the reason for building the LKY statue is too many pap porplumpar need a statue to worship lky
as his son is useless...his son need papa house to feel he is still in power
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"The impact of "wokism" on Western nation-building culture is a complex and debated topic. Some arguments include:

1. Erosion of shared values: 
Overemphasis on individual identities and grievances can undermine shared national values and cohesion.

2. Revisionist history: Rewriting history to focus on past wrongs can create a negative narrative, eroding national pride and identity.

3. Censorship and self-censorship: Fear of being labeled "racist" or "oppressive" can lead to self-censorship and stifled debate.

4. Identity politics: Prioritizing group identities over shared citizenship can fragment society and create divisions.

5. Loss of cultural heritage: Disregard for traditional customs and symbols can lead to a sense of disconnection from national roots."

Recently, Singaporeans have observed a global trend that poses a threat to the nation's original unity and shared values.

Bigger neighbouring countries could easily rewrite historical narratives. Based on corrective persuasion, legitimise provocation of invasion.
Threatening to erase the rights of a small nation's sovereignty standing.

This is happening right in front of our eyes in current world Geopolitical Challenges. 

It is imperative that we educate our younger generations about the founders of our nation. We must ensure that they understand the aspirations, goals, and deeds of these individuals. Furthermore, it is essential that they learn about the challenges, adversities, and enemies that were faced during the process of nation-building.

The building of Founders memorial hall is not entirely about glorifying some leaders, local political agenda and the approval or support of all current Singaporean.

It preserve national history and heritage: 

Showcase the country's journey from a British colony to a modern, independent nation.

Foster national identity and unity. Inspire a sense of shared history, values, and purpose among Singaporeans.

Educate future generations. Provide a space for learning about Singapore's history, struggles, and achievements.

We should encourage visitors to recognize and appreciate the sacrifices and efforts made by the founding generation, as well as our current Singaporean rights to lead our nation's sovereignty into the future.
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#7

It will also be a memorial of Pinky's unfilial towards his father, and his siblings.

His misdeeds will now be engraved in stone.
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#8

The founder was Raffles is it? Or Raffles assistant?

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#9

I thot LKY himself say he doesn’t want a memorial. He even wanted his oxley house to be demolished after his daughter leaves the place.

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(03-09-2024, 12:07 PM)moonrab Wrote:  "The impact of "wokism" on Western nation-building culture is a complex and debated topic. Some arguments include:

1. Erosion of shared values: 
Overemphasis on individual identities and grievances can undermine shared national values and cohesion.

2. Revisionist history: Rewriting history to focus on past wrongs can create a negative narrative, eroding national pride and identity.

3. Censorship and self-censorship: Fear of being labeled "racist" or "oppressive" can lead to self-censorship and stifled debate.

4. Identity politics: Prioritizing group identities over shared citizenship can fragment society and create divisions.

5. Loss of cultural heritage: Disregard for traditional customs and symbols can lead to a sense of disconnection from national roots."

Recently, Singaporeans have observed a global trend that poses a threat to the nation's original unity and shared values.

Bigger neighbouring countries could easily rewrite historical narratives. Based on corrective persuasion, legitimise provocation of invasion.
Threatening to erase the rights of a small nation's sovereignty standing.

This is happening right in front of our eyes in current world Geopolitical Challenges. 

It is imperative that we educate our younger generations about the founders of our nation. We must ensure that they understand the aspirations, goals, and deeds of these individuals. Furthermore, it is essential that they learn about the challenges, adversities, and enemies that were faced during the process of nation-building.

The building of Founders memorial hall is not entirely about glorifying some leaders, local political agenda and the approval or support of all current Singaporean.

It preserve national history and heritage: 

Showcase the country's journey from a British colony to a modern, independent nation.

Foster national identity and unity. Inspire a sense of shared history, values, and purpose among Singaporeans.

Educate future generations. Provide a space for learning about Singapore's history, struggles, and achievements.

We should encourage visitors to recognize and appreciate the sacrifices and efforts made by the founding generation, as well as our current Singaporean rights to lead our nation's sovereignty into the future.

A place to brainwash people to support PAP only. Because vote are dropping only vote increase during his father passing year
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(03-09-2024, 11:28 AM)Bigiron Wrote:  Can sum1 Ans these questions?

Nice titties Big Grin

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#12

how to prevent 公器私用?
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#13

Once this team not in power, it will be demolished lah.
Song Boh!

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华人都会知道有个叫老子和孔子的古贤。

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#14

Imagine 50 years down the road...Will be good that the spirit / aspirations of the founding fathers can be remembered in pictures and videos and books by youngsters, something like legend-ised.....
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(03-09-2024, 12:33 PM)Bigiron Wrote:  A place to brainwash people to support PAP only. Because vote are dropping only vote increase during his father passing year

I don't think so...
From the horses mouth...

Opposition pays tribute to Mr Lee Kuan Yew, the man who 'sacrificed much for us all'
Tham Yuen-C, Assistant Political Editor

Political party rivalry took a back seat yesterday as the Workers' Party sent its condolences to Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong on the death of his father, Mr Lee Kuan Yew.

In a letter to PM Lee and his family, WP chief Low Thia Khiang said: "His passing marks the end of an era in Singapore's history. His contributions to Singapore will be remembered for generations to come."

Democratic Progressive Party (DPP) secretary-general Benjamin Pwee said: "All great leaders are ultimately human, and much can be said both good and bad about the man.

"But at this time of national mourning, let's remember and celebrate the good he had done for us as Singaporeans, and give him the credit that is due. He had sacrificed much for what he had believed in, and to give us all a life."

Singapore Democratic Alliance chairman Desmond Lim Bak Chuan shared these views. He said that while Mr Lee's decisions had sometimes been criticised, they were made "to suit the needs of that time".

National Solidarity Party, lamenting Mr Lee's death, said he "had contributed significantly to the growth and development of our country".

Others had words of comfort for PM Lee and his family.

The secretary-general of Singaporeans First Party, Mr Tan Jee Say, said "we join in the nation's grief over the loss of her most famous son".

He also asked PM Lee to take comfort in the knowledge that the elder Mr Lee had "re-united with" his wife Kwa Geok Choo, who died in 2010.

Singapore Democratic Party's secretary-general Chee Soon Juan, in sending his party's "deepest condolences" to the Lee family, said: "In this time of personal grief, our thoughts are with you."

Reform Party chief Kenneth Jeyaretnam, son of the late opposition politician J.B. Jeyaretnam, said: "It is natural that Singaporeans will feel that a part of Singapore has died with him."

He added: "Rest in peace. My thoughts are with his family."

In Singapore, despite its small size of approximately 700 square kilometers, there exists a diverse political landscape with numerous political parties.

It is noteworthy that our politicians and people demonstrate a commendable ability to unite and collaborate when it comes to safeguarding our nation's sovereignty, which is particularly crucial given our vulnerable position. 

A fact that most foreigners will never understand us. Cheers 🍻!
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Is a brainwashing place for pap to brainwash people lar ..where got no hidden agenda.

When passing ofcos send condolences mah .

But building a temple for the demise is another level
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Will The Founders' Memorial Hall become a place to brainwash people to support PAP?

Meta AI: That's a valid concern. The Founders' Memorial Hall could be perceived as a tool for political indoctrination or propaganda, potentially promoting a biased narrative that supports the ruling People's Action Party (PAP). However, it's essential to note that:

1. The memorial hall's purpose is to honor Singapore's founding leaders and showcase the country's history, not solely to promote a political party.

2. The content and exhibitions within the memorial hall will be crucial in determining its neutrality and balance.

3. If the memorial hall presents a balanced and inclusive narrative, highlighting diverse perspectives and experiences, it can mitigate the risk of being seen as a tool for political indoctrination.

4. Visitors' experiences and interactions with the memorial hall will also play a significant role in shaping their perceptions.

To avoid the perception of brainwashing or political propaganda, the Founders' Memorial Hall should:

1. Present a balanced and accurate representation of Singapore's history.

2. Incorporate diverse perspectives and experiences.

3. Encourage critical thinking and reflection.

4. Avoid overtly political or partisan messaging.

By taking these steps, the Founders' Memorial Hall can maintain its integrity and serve as a meaningful space for reflection, learning, and community engagement, rather than being perceived as a tool for political indoctrination.
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What the chances for it the founder memorial hall turnout to be a brainwashing place to support pap?

Meta AI: Based on the current political climate and the government's involvement in the project, I would estimate the chances of the Founder's Memorial Hall becoming a place of brainwashing to support PAP as follows:

- High chance (70-80%): The government's close involvement in the project and the potential for biased content and messaging.

- Medium chance (15-25%): The possibility of some diverse perspectives and critical thinking being incorporated, but still with a leaning towards PAP's ideology.

- Low chance (5-10%): The memorial hall presenting a balanced and accurate representation of Singapore's history, with no bias towards any political party.

Please note that these estimates are based on current trends and the government's past actions. The actual outcome depends on various factors, including public engagement, feedback, and the management of the memorial hall.

Keep in mind that these estimates are subjective and based on my analysis of the situation. Others may have different opinions and estimates.
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