[RichDad]

So why pap still not happy? 

https://www.theedgemarkets.com/article/r...ta-variant

[forum456]

The research found that two shots of the vaccines provided an efficacy of 59% against Covid-19 caused by the Delta variant, 70.2% against a moderate form of the disease and 100% against severe cases.

59% is too low for PAP to use for vaccination.

[RichDad]

The research found that two shots of the vaccines provided an efficacy of 59% against Covid-19 caused by the Delta variant, 70.2% against a moderate form of the disease and 100% against severe cases.

59% is too low for PAP to use for vaccination.

Pfizer 40% can use leh...

[forum456]

Pfizer 40% can use leh...

No choice.
PAP needs Modena and Pfizer which are at least 80% against delta variant.
Chinese medicine is too inferior.

https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/coronavi...dy-2539044

In the study's time period, Moderna was 95 per cent effective at preventing hospitalisations among adults aged 18 and older, the authors said.

The Pfizer vaccine was 80 per cent effective while the Johnson & Johnson preventive was 60 per cent effective at preventing hospitalisations among adults ages 18 and older, they said.

[RichDad]

No choice.
PAP needs Modena and Pfizer which are at least 80% against delta variant.
Chinese medicine is too inferior.

https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/coronavi...dy-2539044

In the study's time period, Moderna was 95 per cent effective at preventing hospitalisations among adults aged 18 and older, the authors said.

The Pfizer vaccine was 80 per cent effective while the Johnson & Johnson preventive was 60 per cent effective at preventing hospitalisations among adults ages 18 and older, they said.

People talking about effectiveness against symptomatic illness, not against hospitalisations.

If against hospitalisation, then Sinovac is 100%.

Still no?

[p1acebo]

Can allow mix?

[RichDad]

Can allow mix?

Should be able to. MOH advise those who took Pfizer and got allergies to go for Sinovac as 2nd shot.

[dynamite]

Booster should use sinovac or sinopharm

Which one is better?

[dynamite]

Can allow mix?

Cocktail is best. 5 in 1.

[theold]

Sinovac or Sinopharm. Both same. You read at India's news media. They only mention 1 vaccine.

[Yin yang]

Dont know why we r so stupiid as not to recognise chinese vacs as at par or better overall with angmo tual ki ones...people not silly to know dat tgis is outrighf discrimination against our biggest trading partner.

U just tink lah how asian big brother wud feel...bargirl, u want to trade n make $$$ from us n yet u look.down on me! Idiots ungratefuls..

Latest news they r asking their citizens to avoid visiting us...n they r telling entire world dat we r spreading this delta virus to fujian .

We better take action to appease them, lest all our investments there might b frozened...v silly bunch of biased leaders...
People were saying dat our ex boom wan if he was around, we wud b in such a sorry mess...he wud likely employ a top tcm advisor to act as a yin yang force to balance all views, opinions before the roll out of the vacs

[ArielCasper]

No choice.
PAP needs Modena and Pfizer which are at least 80% against delta variant.
Chinese medicine is too inferior.

https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/coronavi...dy-2539044

In the study's time period, Moderna was 95 per cent effective at preventing hospitalisations among adults aged 18 and older, the authors said.

The Pfizer vaccine was 80 per cent effective while the Johnson & Johnson preventive was 60 per cent effective at preventing hospitalisations among adults ages 18 and older, they said.

Err.. forum456, the article you attached didn't even mentioned Pfizer efficacy against Delta variant, so how did you reached the conclusion Pfizer efficacy against Delta variant is better than Sinovac's 59%? Need to compare apple to apple right? On one hand, you used Sinovac's 59% efficacy against Delta variant, but on the other hand, you used % preventing hospitalisations for Pfizer.

[forum456]

Err.. forum456, the article you attached didn't even mentioned Pfizer efficacy against Delta variant, so how did you reached the conclusion Pfizer efficacy against Delta variant is better than Sinovac's 59%? Need to compare apple to apple right? On one hand, you used Sinovac's 59% efficacy against Delta variant, but on the other hand, you used % preventing hospitalisations for Pfizer.

Read the link.

https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/coronavi...dy-2539044

COVID-19 vaccines are effective at preventing hospitalisations and emergency department visits caused by the Delta variant of the SARS-CoV-2 virus, according to a US study.

[dynamite]

I book for appt Liao.

[Harry Lee]

Book healthway almost 2 weeks ago. No email acknowledgment telephone no ring also dunno wats happening

[revealer]

The question is who conducted the vaccine effectiveness research studies and whether their reports are trustworthy. If it is from reputable medical institutions or renowned regulatory bodies and authorities, then their study results will weigh.

Many vaccine effectiveness studies using the real World are not studying vaccine effectiveness per se but the combined effect of control measures in which vaccine is just one of the control measures. Also, many vaccine effectiveness studies using real World data contain lot of unknown giving erroneous results.

US CDC has compiled a list of effectiveness studies from reputable medical institutions. Here are the references

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-nco...html#ref30

[dynamite]

Book healthway almost 2 weeks ago. No email acknowledgment telephone no ring also dunno wats happening

Call them.

[revealer]

The question is who conducted the vaccine effectiveness research studies and whether their reports are trustworthy.  If it is from reputable medical institutions or renowned regulatory bodies and authorities,  then their study results will weigh. 

Many vaccine effectiveness studies using the real World are not studying vaccine effectiveness per se but the combined effect of control measures in which vaccine is just one of the control measures.  Also,  many vaccine effectiveness studies using real World data contain lot of unknown giving erroneous results.

US CDC has compiled a list of effectiveness studies from reputable medical institutions.  Here are the references

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-nco...html#ref30

Here is one vaccine effectiveness study that claimed Pfizer has only 39% effectiveness

https://skyjuiceiswater.blogspot.com/202...icacy.html

[revealer]

This article shows that Pfizer effectiveness using real World data can go negative too

https://skyjuiceiswater.blogspot.com/202...-some.html

[RichDad]

What really matters is the protection against severe symptoms. Both p&m and inactivated ones do the job well.

There shouldnt be any discrimination .

[Sharexchange]

They studied Covid effect during year 2016 is it

[CHAOS]

So why pap still not happy? 

https://www.theedgemarkets.com/article/r...ta-variant

Biden told Pinky no means no!

[ArielCasper]

Read the link.

https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/coronavi...dy-2539044

COVID-19 vaccines are effective at preventing hospitalisations and emergency department visits caused by the Delta variant of the SARS-CoV-2 virus, according to a US study.

So, what is the efficacy rate for Pfizer for delta variant? You are quick to post efficacy rate for sinovac for delta variant, but asked you for the same for Pfizer, keep on beating around the bush. You want to run around a tree instead?

[cf9]

Just see Indonesia, Chile etc come down. Proves China inactive vaccines are good.

[watchfirst9]

There is perhaps no perfect vaccine

Pfizer & Moderna is better limiting in spreading.
While Sinovac is better in preventing severe condition than mRNA.

Like wise Moderna work better against Delta variant than Pfizer
though have more than double chances of side effects.

Pfizer vs. Moderna Vaccines: Does One Have More Side ...
https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical...r-BB1gqudk
According to Pfizer, about 3.8% of their clinical trial participants experienced fatigue as a side effect and 2% got a headache. Moderna says 9.7% of their participants felt fatigued and 4.5% got ...


It is good to let people choose which vaccine they preferred, after all are emergency items.

[debono]

Book healthway almost 2 weeks ago. No email acknowledgment telephone no ring also dunno wats happening

Call them.

Best is to e-mail them, cos there is a black and white request, and they cannot but acknowledge within 3 days time.

[WhatDoYouThink?]

Just see Indonesia, Chile etc come down. Proves China inactive vaccines are good.

if there're only inactive vaccines very possibly all is already over by now

[Clyde]

Book healthway almost 2 weeks ago. No email acknowledgment telephone no ring also dunno wats happening

Try Raffles. I think their stocks arrives.

[dynamite]

if there're only inactive vaccines very possibly all is already over by now

Means what? Should also buy 歼15 instead of F35? Maybe the former cheap and good? Buy from taobao and not Amazon?

[WhatDoYouThink?]

Means what? Should also buy 歼15 instead of F35? Maybe the former cheap and good? Buy from taobao and not Amazon?

let's say if ckt is the only type of food available, then nobody would laugh at you even if you take it everyday