Russia vs Ukraine
#61

(18-01-2023, 03:24 PM)debono Wrote:  Bro. seems that you are an authority on war matters.................. Clapping Laughing

He is taking side lah. Rotfl

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#62

(18-01-2023, 03:18 PM)Tee tiong huat Wrote:  The high-precision M30/M31 GMLRS rockets used by Ukrainian HIMARS have an effective range of some 85 kilometers. Therefore, locating their depots beyond this dangerous effective range would be the answer to the problem. But by pulling them back, Russia is also greatly complicating its already very problematic logistics.

Russian trucks would have to make it 90 or 100, or even 120 kilometers crying


https://youtu.be/FPCfrypVCf4

Russia’s military keeps running short of trucks, and truck drivers. Many were killed in huge numbers during Russia’s early offensive deep inside Ukraine. According to the open source project Oryx documenting Russian war losses, the Russian military has lost at least 1,254 supply trucks and fuel tankers.

Even if they are eventually relocated farther away from the front line, Russian depots would still be threatened by Ukrainian Tochka-U missiles, which have already swept off some of Russia’s most giant ammo dumps in Donbas, such as the one in the city of Khrustalniy (formerly Krasniy Luch) in Luhansk Oblast on June 18.

Should Ukraine be finally provided with 300-kilometer ATACMS missiles??.

The situation will become even more complicated for Russi. Russian air defense little time to notice them and react.

This means Ukrainian-operated HIMARSs continue delivering strikes anywhere they can reach.

Especially when the Ukrainian military overcharges Russian air defenses with barrages of Tochka-U, Uragan, or Smerch rounds — and then shoots a full salvo of HIMARS to get a guaranteed hit
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#63

(18-01-2023, 11:05 AM)Dan Wrote:  Which is more improbable

Need more weapons to stop the war or

Raise GST to help the poor?

Need negotiation to stop war.
More weapons will create more hatred lah.

If GST can help the poor, how come keep increasing GST? Rotfl

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#64

(17-01-2023, 01:01 PM)RiseofAsia Wrote:  Many ppl dont know buying US weapons got 1 problem. You need to ask for permission.
They can switch off the GPS, your high tech weapons will be like a headless fly.  Rotfl

US also fear their high tech weapons which they sold to other countries will be used to bomb their own ground.

China has learnt the lesson hard. This is why they built their own navigational system.

As T-72 crew Vlad, scrambled out of a nearby fox hole, where he had been warming his grimy hands seconds later, a skull-shaking explosion echoed across the valley and towards Bakhmut, as a US-supplied tank shell tore out of the gun barrel with a flash of orange, heading towards Russian positions on the opposite hillside.

Soviet-era tank T-72s are old tanks - this one's the same age as me," said Bogdan, a 55-year-old Ukrainian volunteer, turning to pat the huge, squat, Soviet-era machine behind him. "I used to drive one of these nearly 40 years ago - I can't believe I'm doing it again. But it works. It does the job. Rotfl
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#65

(17-01-2023, 09:31 PM)debono Wrote:  Don't tell me Putin wants to annex Ukraine...........Russia already has such a big land mass............. Big Grin

I heard that Putin wants to restart the Soviet Union leh! Big Grin So he must conquer the whole of Ukraine lah!
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#66

Zelensky is calling for more weapons to stop the war...2027 to Stop?. She is said to have predicted peace would not be reached and till until 2027. Only the 8th Ukrainian president will be able to save his country from disaster,” Baba Vanga.

While Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu provided a timetable for the troop increase the Kremlin outlined in December following a string of setbacks on the battlefield and criticism from Russian nationalists.

The country’s army will increase to 1.5 million military personnel between 2023 and 2026—compared with its current level of 1.15 million and one million at the start of 2022, Mr. Shoigu said


https://youtu.be/6e_8saeGHQc
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With the prospect of facing Western tanks in Ukraine as Poland and the United Kingdom reportedly finalize on sending its Leopard-2 and Challenger-2 Main Battle Tanks (MBT), Russia has appointed its top tankman – its military chief – to direct operations.

Chief of General Staff General Valery Gerasimov is a career armored corps officer. His transfer comes in the backdrop of Russia’s T-90M being inducted and the introduction of the modernized ‘M’ version of the Ka-52 ‘Alligator’ attack helicopter. Moscow appears to be preparing a classic tank war in Ukraine.


Europe’s ‘Tanking Will’ To Arm Ukraine

Polish, German, and British leaders have symbolically announced approval for sending the machines. Still, they have not gone ahead with it owing to four factors – permanently souring already tense ties with Russia, waiting for one European country to make the first move, awaiting a nod from Washington, and depleting their ammunition stockpiles. Gerasimov’s appointment comes against this backdrop, where Russian T-90 and T-72B3 could exchange fire with Leopards and Challengers in the east.

Russia is preparing for the clash, heavily advertising the T-90M, the latest version of its most powerful tank. Since December last year, it announced new batches of tanks reaching the Luhansk People’s Republic (LPR), Central Military District (CMD), and PMC Wagner units.

Russian Telegram channels have recorded tank crews boasting about the T-90M ‘Proryv’ (meaning ‘breakthrough’) and challenging the Western machines.

The Russian Army, meanwhile, has received ten upgraded Ka-52 Alligator attack helicopters of the ‘M’ variant. The Ka-52M has a new GOES-451M electro-optical targeting turret with increased range, stronger landing gear wheels, improved cockpit ergonomics, and better adaptation to night vision goggles. It can also carry the latest LMUR missile.
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#68

(18-01-2023, 09:40 PM)Tee tiong huat Wrote:  With the prospect of facing Western tanks in Ukraine as Poland and the United Kingdom reportedly finalize on sending its Leopard-2 and Challenger-2 Main Battle Tanks (MBT), Russia has appointed its top tankman – its military chief – to direct operations.

Chief of General Staff General Valery Gerasimov is a career armored corps officer. His transfer comes in the backdrop of Russia’s T-90M being inducted and the introduction of the modernized ‘M’ version of the Ka-52 ‘Alligator’ attack helicopter. Moscow appears to be preparing a classic tank war in Ukraine.

Europe’s ‘Tanking Will’ To Arm Ukraine

Polish, German, and British leaders have symbolically announced approval for sending the machines. Still, they have not gone ahead with it owing to four factors – permanently souring already tense ties with Russia, waiting for one European country to make the first move, awaiting a nod from Washington, and depleting their ammunition stockpiles. Gerasimov’s appointment comes against this backdrop, where Russian T-90 and T-72B3 could exchange fire with Leopards and Challengers in the east.

Russia is preparing for the clash, heavily advertising the T-90M, the latest version of its most powerful tank. Since December last year, it announced new batches of tanks reaching the Luhansk People’s Republic (LPR), Central Military District (CMD), and PMC Wagner units.

Russian Telegram channels have recorded tank crews boasting about the T-90M ‘Proryv’ (meaning ‘breakthrough’) and challenging the Western machines.

The Russian Army, meanwhile, has received ten upgraded Ka-52 Alligator attack helicopters of the ‘M’ variant. The Ka-52M has a new GOES-451M electro-optical targeting turret with increased range, stronger landing gear wheels, improved cockpit ergonomics, and better adaptation to night vision goggles. It can also carry the latest LMUR missile.

Incidentally, this video of the Ka-52 being destroyed by its crew was published just days after another video showing the evacuation of a Russian Ka-52 by Ukrainian forces went viral.

The helicopter with a tale number ’18’ being towed in the video was reportedly left at the Gostomel Airport by the Russian troops at the onset of the invasion, and no effort was made to recover the helicopter for the next 40 days.

The video shows the Ukrainian military loading the helicopter, triggering speculations that the United States was already examining the technology. Some netizens even wondered if the helicopter was being loaded and sent to the United States to decode the technology of Russia’s deadliest attack
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#69

(18-01-2023, 09:52 PM)Tee tiong huat Wrote:  Incidentally, this video of the Ka-52 being destroyed by its crew was published just days after another video showing the evacuation of a Russian Ka-52 by Ukrainian forces went viral.

The helicopter with a tale number ’18’ being towed in the video was reportedly left at the Gostomel Airport by the Russian troops at the onset of the invasion, and no effort was made to recover the helicopter for the next 40 days.

The video shows the Ukrainian military loading the helicopter, triggering speculations that the United States was already examining the technology. Some netizens even wondered if the helicopter was being loaded and sent to the United States to decode the technology of Russia’s deadliest attack

Clapping Clash Reported... crying

https://twitter.com/clashreport/status/1...wcon%5Es2_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fd-148859823827981076.ampproject.net%2F2301031703000%2Fframe.html
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#70

(18-01-2023, 09:52 PM)Tee tiong huat Wrote:  Incidentally, this video of the Ka-52 being destroyed by its crew was published just days after another video showing the evacuation of a Russian Ka-52 by Ukrainian forces went viral.

The helicopter with a tale number ’18’ being towed in the video was reportedly left at the Gostomel Airport by the Russian troops at the onset of the invasion, and no effort was made to recover the helicopter for the next 40 days.

The video shows the Ukrainian military loading the helicopter, triggering speculations that the United States was already examining the technology. Some netizens even wondered if the helicopter was being loaded and sent to the United States to decode the technology of Russia’s deadliest attack

You mean that the helicopter is being sent to US to be dismantled and study Russia's technology..............? Clapping nudie
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#71

(17-01-2023, 12:58 PM)Tee tiong huat Wrote:  Hundreds of thousands of Russian soldiers will be killed for the sake of Russian dictator Vladimir Putin’s insane geopolitical gamble.

https://kyivindependent.com/opinion/oleg...ry-in-2023

Although she did not give an exact date for the end of the military conflict,

she is said to have predicted peace would not be reached and till crying until 2027.

Only the 8th Ukrainian president will be able to save his country from disaster,” Baba Vanga, who died 25 years ago, reportedly said. Volodimir Zelenski is Ukraine’s 7th president since leaving the USSR.

https://kyivindependent.com/opinion/oleg...ry-in-2023

According to the commander of the Air Force of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, more than 210 missiles of this type have been fired at the territory of Ukraine since the beginning of Russia's military aggression. None of them were shot down by air defense systems.

The weight of a Kh-22 warhead is about 950 kg. The maximum range is up to 600 km. When used from long distances, the deviation from the target can be hundreds of meters.

"Only anti-aircraft missile systems that may be provided to Ukraine by Western partners in the future (such as Patriot PAC-3 or SAMP-T) are capable of intercepting these air targets.
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#72

Ukraine army should just do a Prayut coup and throw Zelensky out. Not only it will save innocent lives they will also save themselves.
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#73

(18-01-2023, 04:29 PM)cheekopekman Wrote:  I heard that Putin wants to restart the Soviet Union leh! Big Grin So he must conquer the whole of Ukraine lah!

Waiting for Putin, year 2029 - 2032 to start, by then waiting for Putin to....he old man have to go sick arhh. crying
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#74

(19-01-2023, 08:54 PM)Harry Lee Wrote:  Ukraine army should just do a Prayut coup and throw Zelensky out. Not only it was will save innocent lives they will also save themselves.

War to go on from last year, 24/02/2022 to year 2027... crying
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#75

(18-01-2023, 04:38 PM)Tee tiong huat Wrote:  Zelensky is calling for more weapons to stop the war...2027 to Stop?. She is said to have predicted peace would not be reached and till until 2027. Only the 8th Ukrainian president will be able to save his country from disaster,” Baba Vanga.

While Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu provided a timetable for the troop increase the Kremlin outlined in December following a string of setbacks on the battlefield and criticism from Russian nationalists.

The country’s army will increase to 1.5 million military personnel between 2023 and 2026—compared with its current level of 1.15 million and one million at the start of 2022, Mr. Shoigu said


https://youtu.be/6e_8saeGHQc

Only the 8th Ukrainian president will be able to save his country from disaster,” Baba Vanga, who died 25 years ago, reportedly said. Volodimir Zelenski is Ukraine’s 7th president since leaving the USSR.
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#76

(19-01-2023, 10:56 PM)Tee tiong huat Wrote:  Only the 8th Ukrainian president will be able to save his country from disaster,” Baba Vanga, who died 25 years ago, reportedly said. Volodimir Zelenski is Ukraine’s 7th president since leaving the USSR.

U.S. is gearing up to announce a major new weapons package for Ukraine on Friday, as top military leaders from around the world gather in Germany to discuss how to help Kyiv in its fight against Russia, according to three U.S. officials and another person familiar with the discussions.

While the next tranche will include additional artillery, ammunition and armor — likely Stryker armored combat vehicles — the U.S. is not expected to sign off on American M1 Abrams tanks, said the people, who spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss the talks ahead of an announcement.

Biden administration said no plans to send the Abrams, the Army’s 60-ton main battle tank, the people said. While This package will not include the long-range Army Tactical Missile System that can reach deep behind Russian lines in Crimea or the Donbas, according to two of the people. The Biden administration has balked at sending long-range munitions, despite Kyiv’s pleas.

Biden fear of provoking Russian President Vladimir Putin. Rotfl
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#77

(18-01-2023, 04:29 PM)cheekopekman Wrote:  I heard that Putin wants to restart the Soviet Union leh! Big Grin So he must conquer the whole of Ukraine lah!


Hinting at less-than-rosy relations with Moscow, President Vucic said that not only was Serbia "neutral" regarding the war in Ukraine. It is illegal for Serbians to take part in conflicts on Ukraine.

What is Russia's Wagner Group of mercenaries?. As Russia-supporting Wagner mercenary numbers soar. The number of Serbian recruits involved does not appear be significant. Some did fight alongside Putin forces in Ukraine in 2014, but not with any sort of official endorsement.

In fact, Serbian courts convicted more than two dozen people for taking part in "fighting on foreign battlefronts".
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#78

Sweden’s has announced a new package of military aid to Ukraine that will include armoured infantry fighting vehicles and the Archer artillery system. While Poland said it was sending S-60 anti-aircraft guns with 70,000 rounds of ammunition and was ready to donate a company of German-made Leopard 2 tanks, “pending (a) wider coalition” of Leopard donors. Estonia’s defence minister, Hanno Pevkur, announced his country will send military equipment to Ukraine worth €113m inlatest package 
Denmark announced it will donate 19 French-made Caesar howitzer artillery systems.

The German-made Leopard tanks: Meeting between Lloyd Austin and Boris Pistorius came as a German source told Reuters that Berlin would allow Leopard tanks to be sent to Ukraine. crying If ONLY US agreed to send its own tanks. Arguing that they would be too difficult for Kyiv to maintain and would require a huge logistical effort to simply run.
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#79

(20-01-2023, 11:27 AM)Tee tiong huat Wrote:  Sweden’s has announced a new package of military aid to Ukraine that will include armoured infantry fighting vehicles and the Archer artillery system. While Poland said it was sending S-60 anti-aircraft guns with 70,000 rounds of ammunition and was ready to donate a company of German-made Leopard 2 tanks, “pending (a) wider coalition” of Leopard donors. Estonia’s defence minister, Hanno Pevkur, announced his country will send military equipment to Ukraine worth €113m inlatest package 
Denmark announced it will donate 19 French-made Caesar howitzer artillery systems.

The German-made Leopard tanks: Meeting between Lloyd Austin and Boris Pistorius came as a German source told Reuters that Berlin would allow Leopard tanks to be sent to Ukraine. crying If ONLY US agreed to send its own tanks. Arguing that they would be too difficult for Kyiv to maintain and would require a huge logistical effort to simply run.

Later news from Germany won’t go at it alone on tanks: Germany new defence minister comfimed.
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(20-01-2023, 11:27 AM)Tee tiong huat Wrote:  Sweden’s has announced a new package of military aid to Ukraine that will include armoured infantry fighting vehicles and the Archer artillery system. While Poland said it was sending S-60 anti-aircraft guns with 70,000 rounds of ammunition and was ready to donate a company of German-made Leopard 2 tanks, “pending (a) wider coalition” of Leopard donors. Estonia’s defence minister, Hanno Pevkur, announced his country will send military equipment to Ukraine worth €113m inlatest package 
Denmark announced it will donate 19 French-made Caesar howitzer artillery systems.

The German-made Leopard tanks: Meeting between Lloyd Austin and Boris Pistorius came as a German source told Reuters that Berlin would allow Leopard tanks to be sent to Ukraine. crying If ONLY US agreed to send its own tanks. Arguing that they would be too difficult for Kyiv to maintain and would require a huge logistical effort to simply run.

The Leclerc is a third generation French main battle tank developed and manufactur. Some sending to Ukraine.. Tongue

It was named in honor of Marshal Philippe Leclerc de Hauteclocque, a commander of the Free French Forces. Is Leclerc better than Leopard 2? What are the good and bad aspects of the Leopard 2 or Leclerc when compared to other tanks? 

The Leclerc is considered to be more mobile, at the cost of lower armor protection. The Leopard 2 is generally more modular, as it is more widely used and more upgrade packages are produced for it.27 Dec 2017
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#81

French main battle tank...coming. Tongue

https://youtu.be/B3SJC-uR6DM
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#82

USA is stopping the war and is not a participant

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/us-...023-01-19/
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#83

(18-01-2023, 04:00 PM)Tee tiong huat Wrote:  As T-72 crew Vlad, scrambled out of a nearby fox hole, where he had been warming his grimy hands seconds later, a skull-shaking explosion echoed across the valley and towards Bakhmut, as a US-supplied tank shell tore out of the gun barrel with a flash of orange, heading towards Russian positions on the opposite hillside.

Soviet-era tank T-72s are old tanks - this one's the same age as me," said Bogdan, a 55-year-old Ukrainian volunteer, turning to pat the huge, squat, Soviet-era machine behind him. "I used to drive one of these nearly 40 years ago - I can't believe I'm doing it again. But it works. It does the 

Should Ukraine be finally provided with 300-kilometer ATACMS missiles??. The situation will become even more complicated for Russi. Russian air defense little time to notice them and react.

This means Ukrainian-operated HIMARSs continue delivering strikes anywhere they can reach. Especially when the Ukrainian military and then shoots a full salvo of HIMARS to get a guaranteed hit.

Especially when Ukrainian military  HIMARS to get a guaranteed hit.

https://youtu.be/6Mt9p7WiLok
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(23-01-2023, 10:11 AM)Tee tiong huat Wrote:  Should Ukraine be finally provided with 300-kilometer ATACMS missiles??. The situation will become even more complicated for Russi. Russian air defense little time to notice them and react.

This means Ukrainian-operated HIMARSs continue delivering strikes anywhere they can reach. Especially when the Ukrainian military and then shoots a full salvo of HIMARS to get a guaranteed hit.

Especially when Ukrainian military  HIMARS to get a guaranteed hit.

https://youtu.be/6Mt9p7WiLok

19 Germany tanks coming to Ukraine better than nothing, 5 more then the British tanks.

https://youtu.be/FQj06goKhBY
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#85

(18-01-2023, 03:24 PM)debono Wrote:  Bro. seems that you are an authority on war matters.................. Clapping Laughing

Ukrainian officials battle to train military up with new Western weapons. Lieutenant General Serhiy Naiev takes delivery of a dozen pick-up trucks armed with heavy machine guns and anti-aircraft guns. As Ukraine repel Iranian-made Shahed drones, which have caused so much damage to Ukraine’s power infrastructure. Naiev, a stocky and affable commander, believes the next phase of this war will be about tanks. And that means not his ancient T-72s, more modern machines like German Leopard 2s and British Challengers. Ukrainian officials say they need several hundred main battle tanks – not only to defend their present positions but also to take the fight to the enemy in coming months.

“Of course, we need a large number of Western tanks. They are much better than the Soviet models and can help us advance,” Naiev said. “We are creating new military units. And our next actions will depend on their combat readiness. Therefore, Western assistance is extremely important.”

https://edition.cnn.com/2023/01/22/europ...index.html
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(23-01-2023, 03:36 PM)Tee tiong huat Wrote:  Ukrainian officials battle to train military up with new Western weapons. Lieutenant General Serhiy Naiev takes delivery of a dozen pick-up trucks armed with heavy machine guns and anti-aircraft guns. As Ukraine repel Iranian-made Shahed drones, which have caused so much damage to Ukraine’s power infrastructure. Naiev, a stocky and affable commander, believes the next phase of this war will be about tanks. And that means not his ancient T-72s, more modern machines like German Leopard 2s and British Challengers. Ukrainian officials say they need several hundred main battle tanks – not only to defend their present positions but also to take the fight to the enemy in coming months.

“Of course, we need a large number of Western tanks. They are much better than the Soviet models and can help us advance,” Naiev said. “We are creating new military units. And our next actions will depend on their combat readiness. Therefore, Western assistance is extremely important.”

https://edition.cnn.com/2023/01/22/europ...index.html

Mykhailo Podolyak, an adviser to Ukraine’s Presidential Administration, told CNN Friday: “We are disappointed. We understand that some countries have inhibitions. But the slower this goes the more Putin soldiers and Ukraine civilians are killed.

“It would be significant if Germany took a leadership position here.” He contends that “300 to 400 of these tanks, in fact, would outdo 2,000 to 3,000 Soviet-era tanks…It would sharply accelerate the tempo of the war and initiate the closing stages.”

Meantime, Ukrainian say they are running out of spare parts for their existing Soviet-era tanks T72 tank, even as they scour other former Soviet bloc states for supplies. The Ukrainians fear that a second Russian offensive may begin within two months

By the spring, 150,000 Russians drafted last autumn will have been trained and probably incorporated into battle-ready units. For the Ukrainians, more fighting is for Putin.

it’s a race against time. Time is they are essentially converting a military based on Soviet hardware to be one using to advanced on western weapons at warp speed... Tongue
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#87

Private mercenary Wagner Group boss appears to be on the outs with the Kremlin after failing to make good on repeated promises of capturing Bakhmut in Donestk Oblast with his troops, the Institute for the Study of War said in its latest update.

Wagner Group is founded by Yevgeny Prigozhin, Russian oligarch, Putin confidant, and former convict. Along he taken part in the battles for both Soledar and Bakhmut in eastern Donetsk. Wagner is known for its human rights abuses all over the world.

According to the D.C.-based think tank.
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#88

Ukrainen Jets Explode at Russian Air Base Tongue

https://youtu.be/wl8jyCStFik
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#89

(23-01-2023, 10:11 AM)Tee tiong huat Wrote:  Should Ukraine be finally provided with 300-kilometer ATACMS missiles??. The situation will become even more complicated for Russi. Russian air defense little time to notice them and react.

This means Ukrainian-operated HIMARSs continue delivering strikes anywhere they can reach. Especially when the Ukrainian military and then shoots a full salvo of HIMARS to get a guaranteed hit.

Especially when Ukrainian military  HIMARS to get a guaranteed hit.

https://youtu.be/6Mt9p7WiLok

I think... Rotfl
Ukraine will not finally be provided with 300-kilometer ATACMS missiles??. Think so.
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#90

(16-01-2023, 12:32 PM)Dan Wrote:  [Image: image-30823.jpg]

A missile that hit an apartment building in Ukraine's eastern city of Dnipro on Saturday has thus far killed 30 people, with some 40 others still unaccounted for, Dnipropetrovsk Governor Valentyn Reznichenko said on Sunday, reported DW, quoting news agencies AFP, dpa and Reuters.

Reznichenko said on his Telegram account that a search operation, ongoing for over 24 hours, has involved 550 people. They included rescuers, police officers, doctors and volunteers.

On Sunday, a 27-year-old woman was pulled out from under the rubble. She suffered from severe hypothermia and was taken to a hospital's intensive care unit for treatment, Reznichenko said.

The governor added that 39 residents of the struck building were rescued. Of the 73 people injured during the strike, 30 were hospitalized, including 12 with serious injuries.

Over 70 apartments were destroyed by the strike, which was carried out using a Russian Kh-22 missile, the Ukrainian armed force said. The missile is known to be inaccurate and Ukrainian forces lack the necessary air defense to shoot it down.

Zelensky Calls on Countries to Provide More Weapons to Ukraine After Deadly Dnipro Strike

Can more weapons stop the war?

Assault groups do not withdraw without a command… Unauthorized withdrawal of a team or without being wounded is punishable by execution on the spot.”
Phone intercepts obtained by a Ukrainian intelligence source and shared with CNN. 

Putin is Afrard of Moscow-hired Mercernaries Wagner Group Boss. Yevgeny Prigozhin declared last week that Wagner was probably "most wanted in the world today. Yevgeny Prigozhin declared last week

https://edition.cnn.com/2023/01/23/europ...index.html

Later update and video on Ukraine loss. Thinking
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