[pinkpanther]

That's not what Christian scholars are saying.

How can you say that the kjv is corrupted when it is just a translator   you can say it wasn't interpreted correctly but never a corruption....you can claim that the Greek manuscripts are corrupted

[pinkpanther]

Who wrote your Koran ? Men you don’t know?
In bible God speaks man write.

Be aware of potential biases: Recognize that scholars, like all humans, may have personal biases that can influence their work.

He always talk scholars but he doesn't give names

[Ali Imran]

Who wrote your Koran ? Men you don’t know?

The Quran means recitation. When the Quran was revealed, it was immediately recited and memorized.

From day 1, we know who the memorizers were. We have their names, their background, their families, etc.

Till today, the Quran is still recited and memorized all over the world.

[Ali Imran]

How can you say that the kjv is corrupted when it is just a translator   you can say it wasn't interpreted correctly but never a corruption....you can claim that the Greek manuscripts are corrupted

I didn't say. The Christian scholars were the people who said the KJV has many serious grave defects.

[Lukongsimi]

The Quran means recitation. When the Quran was revealed, it was immediately recited and memorized.

From day 1, we know who the memorizers were. We have their names, their background, their families, etc.

Till today, the Quran is still recited and memorized all over the world.

If someone says that the Quran has not been changed, whether they be Muslim or Non-Muslim, they have just proven that they don't know anything about the various Qurans existing today.
The oldest Qurans available today are the the Samarqand codex (currently located in Russia) and the other is an old Qur'an manuscript kept on public display in the Topkapi Museum in Istanbul.
Both are incomplete manuscripts. Without a complete copy from Uthman's period, it is impossible to know that the Qurans used today (which aren't even in Qurashi Arabic, the original dialect use in Uthman's version) are the same.

[pinkpanther]

I didn't say. The Christian scholars were the people who said the KJV has many serious grave defects.

With their strict criteria, spelling mistakes might be serious mistakes...you don have anything concrete to define as grave defects....

It might be a grave mistake if it failed to updated with the findings of new manuscripts...

[pinkpanther]

The Quran means recitation. When the Quran was revealed, it was immediately recited and memorized.

From day 1, we know who the memorizers were. We have their names, their background, their families, etc.

Till today, the Quran is still recited and memorized all over the world.

There are many reports that indicate Mohammad kept forgetting texts, changing them as he went, and even completely losing entire passages of hundreds of verses

[Lukongsimi]

the Bible has been preserved, though not in its original autographs (the very first copies). It has been meticulously copied and translated through the centuries, with a vast number of manuscripts and fragments providing evidence for its accuracy. While some minor variations exist between manuscripts, these are generally understood and accounted for through textual criticism.
Here's a more detailed explanation:
1. Manuscript Evidence:
The New Testament alone has over 5,800 Greek manuscripts, plus thousands more in other ancient languages, like Latin, Syriac, and Coptic.
The Dead Sea Scrolls, discovered in 1947, provided copies of Old Testament books (like Isaiah) that predate the time of Jesus, confirming the accuracy of later copies.
This wealth of manuscript evidence allows scholars to reconstruct the original text with a high degree of accuracy.
2. Textual Criticism:
Textual criticism is the process of comparing different manuscripts to identify and correct errors that may have occurred during copying.
By carefully analyzing variations, scholars can determine the most likely reading of the original text.
3. Translation:
The Bible has been translated into thousands of languages, making it accessible to people around the world.
Translation efforts also involve careful consideration of the original languages and cultural contexts, ensuring accuracy and clarity.
4. Preservation Beyond Manuscripts:
The Bible's preservation is also evident in its influence on literature, art, and culture throughout history.
The widespread acceptance and study of the Bible by various groups, including scholars and believers, further demonstrates its enduring relevance.

[Lukongsimi]

These scholars include figures like Ali al-Tabari, Abu Ali Husain Bin Sina, and Al-Ghazali. Some also recognized the importance of the Bible as a source of divine guidance, though they often emphasized the Quran as the ultimate authority.
Here's a more detailed look:
Early Muslim scholars who acknowledged the Bible:
Some early Muslim scholars, like those mentioned above, engaged with the Bible, even quoting it in their writings. They may have believed the text was partially corrupted, but they still found value in it.

[Ali Imran]

These scholars include figures like Ali al-Tabari, Abu Ali Husain Bin Sina, and Al-Ghazali. Some also recognized the importance of the Bible as a source of divine guidance, though they often emphasized the Quran as the ultimate authority.
Here's a more detailed look:
Early Muslim scholars who acknowledged the Bible:
Some early Muslim scholars, like those mentioned above, engaged with the Bible, even quoting it in their writings. They may have believed the text was partially corrupted, but they still found value in it.

Thank you. I too find value in the Bible.

[Ali Imran]

If someone says that the Quran has not been changed, whether they be Muslim or Non-Muslim, they have just proven that they don't know anything about the various Qurans existing today.
The oldest Qurans available today are the the Samarqand codex (currently located in Russia) and the other is an old Qur'an manuscript kept on public display in the Topkapi Museum in Istanbul.
Both are incomplete manuscripts. Without a complete copy from Uthman's period, it is impossible to know that the Qurans used today (which aren't even in Qurashi Arabic, the original dialect use in Uthman's version) are the same.

We can tell you the Quran is pristine and there is only 1 Quran. 

If you want to know more, ask me.

[Ali Imran]

the Bible has been preserved, though not in its original autographs (the very first copies). It has been meticulously copied and translated through the centuries, with a vast number of manuscripts and fragments providing evidence for its accuracy. While some minor variations exist between manuscripts, these are generally understood and accounted for through textual criticism.
Here's a more detailed explanation:
1. Manuscript Evidence:
The New Testament alone has over 5,800 Greek manuscripts, plus thousands more in other ancient languages, like Latin, Syriac, and Coptic.
The Dead Sea Scrolls, discovered in 1947, provided copies of Old Testament books (like Isaiah) that predate the time of Jesus, confirming the accuracy of later copies.
This wealth of manuscript evidence allows scholars to reconstruct the original text with a high degree of accuracy.
2. Textual Criticism:
Textual criticism is the process of comparing different manuscripts to identify and correct errors that may have occurred during copying.
By carefully analyzing variations, scholars can determine the most likely reading of the original text.
3. Translation:
The Bible has been translated into thousands of languages, making it accessible to people around the world.
Translation efforts also involve careful consideration of the original languages and cultural contexts, ensuring accuracy and clarity.
4. Preservation Beyond Manuscripts:
The Bible's preservation is also evident in its influence on literature, art, and culture throughout history.
The widespread acceptance and study of the Bible by various groups, including scholars and believers, further demonstrates its enduring relevance.

In the Gospel of Mark, Jesus said the most important commandment is the Shema. But in the Gospel of Matthew, the most important commandment is not the Shema.

Why did the author of Matthew delete the Shema?

[Ali Imran]

There are many reports that indicate Mohammad kept forgetting texts, changing them as he went, and even completely losing entire passages of hundreds of verses

Which Muslim scholars said that?

[pinkpanther]

Which Muslim scholars said that?

Sahih al-Bukhari 5038
Narrated Aisha:

Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) heard a man reciting the Qur'an at night, and said, "May Allah bestow His Mercy on him, as he has reminded me of such-and-such Verses of such-and-such Suras, which I was caused to forget."

[pinkpanther]

Thank you. I too find value in the Bible.

What value? Did Allah ask you to believe in the Bible?
The Bible is not one of the four books!

[pinkpanther]

We can tell you the Quran is pristine and there is only 1 Quran. 

If you want to know more, ask me.

The Quran might be pristine but no one can say that it is a revelation from God..

[Lukongsimi]

Thank you. I too find value in the Bible.

What value u found ? Why u always complain

[Lukongsimi]

We can tell you the Quran is pristine and there is only 1 Quran. 

If you want to know more, ask me.

Only stupid will believe u

[Lukongsimi]

In the Gospel of Mark, Jesus said the most important commandment is the Shema. But in the Gospel of Matthew, the most important commandment is not the Shema.

Why did the author of Matthew delete the Shema?

How u know it was Matthew who deleted the shema?
Don’t anyhow  guess

[Lukongsimi]

The Quran might be pristine but no one can say that it is a revelation from God..

No proof n teachings is entirely different from the bible
Furthermore their muh was illiterate how to write down when heard messages ?
If drew pictures his followers can’t guess what is the meaning

[pinkpanther]

What value u found ? Why  u always complain

We find no value in the Quran

[Lukongsimi]

We find no value in the Quran

Christians will be killed for their salvation n they cannot make friends with us 
Of course we find no value 😂

[Ali Imran]

Sahih al-Bukhari 5038
Narrated Aisha:

Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) heard a man reciting the Qur'an at night, and said, "May Allah bestow His Mercy on him, as he has reminded me of such-and-such Verses of such-and-such Suras, which I was caused to forget."

My question is, which Muslim scholars said Prophet Muhammad صلي الله عليه وسلم forgot a verse and changed a verse.

[Lukongsimi]

He always talk scholars but he doesn't give names

he doesn’t know who were the scholars. Pathetic lol

[Ali Imran]

The Quran might be pristine but no one can say that it is a revelation from God..

ALL Muslims believe the Quran is from God and that the Quran is pristine.

[Ali Imran]

How u know it was Matthew who deleted the shema?
Don’t anyhow  guess

So what was Jesus's answer to the question of what is the most important commandment? The one in Mark or the one in Matthew?

[Ali Imran]

Only stupid will believe u

ALL Muslims believe the same, that there is only 1 Quran and that the Quran is pristine.

Are you gonna now say ALL Muslims are stupid?

[Lukongsimi]

Who rejected prophet Muhammad?
The majority of them refused to accept the truth – Waleed Ibn al Mugheerah, Abu Sufyan and even his uncle, Abu Talib.

[Ali Imran]

What value u found ? Why  u always complain

First and foremost, my study of Christianity and the NT confirms what our Prophet صلي الله عليه وسلم said about the elevation of the status of Jesus.

[Ali Imran]

Who rejected prophet Muhammad?
The majority of them refused to accept the truth – Waleed Ibn al Mugheerah, Abu Sufyan and even his uncle, Abu Talib.

Initially, only a few believed. In the end, all believed.