[Ali Imran]

We know u worship man
2 in one 
5 times daily 
Can your muh hears u?

You're wrong. 

Why don't you ask the Muslims you know? They will tell you the same as what I'm telling you.

[Lukongsimi]

You're wrong. 

Why don't you ask the Muslims you know? They will tell you the same as what I'm telling you.

Recently u claimed u added your muh in your prayer won’t twist !

[Ali Imran]

God bear witness
You don read properly and misinterpret everything..bro you are dangerous

Again. Christians have been trying to falsify Islam right from the very beginning.

What makes you think some youtuber can achieve what the learned people of Christianity can't?

[Ali Imran]

Recently u claimed u added your muh in your prayer won’t twist !

Yes, we pray TO God to bless our prophet. 

We also pray TO God to bless us and our parents, among others.

Is that worshipping the prophet? Or our parents?

[pinkpanther]

Is the longer ending of Mark a corruption? What about the embellishment? Metzger's book is thick. You think he only showed us 1 John 5:7?

You see how desperate you seems...you don believe what Allah said, you chose to believe one scholar...
We have many scholars attesting to the reliability of the NT..

What did Muhammad affirm? Where is it now? You can't even answer

[Lukongsimi]

Because I am not sure what Jesus taught. And more importantly, I am not an Israelite.

Not sure still want to debate!

[Ali Imran]

Oh.. and we also pray TO God to bless the servants of God who do good deeds.

[Ali Imran]

Not sure still want to debate!

When I say I'm not sure, I mean WE are not sure.

So yes, you also don't know what Jesus said. Do you know Jesus spoke in Aramaic? You read the Gospel in English.

[pinkpanther]

Again. Christians have been trying to falsify Islam right from the very beginning.

What makes you think some youtuber can achieve what the learned people of Christianity can't?

Woe to those who misinterpret and add their own meanings....you are attributing injustice to Allah by putting words in His mouth...Not once did He say that the gospel was corrupted but you moslems believe otherwise....

You are the wrong path bro

[Lukongsimi]

Yes, we pray TO God to bless our prophet. 

We also pray TO God to bless us and our parents, among others.

Is that worshipping the prophet? Or our parents?

U still considered as worships your muh everyday without fail !
Why not u pray for the people in Gaza who are still alive and suffering?

[Ali Imran]

You see how desperate you seems...you don believe what Allah said, you chose to believe one scholar...
We have many scholars attesting to the reliability of the NT..

What did Muhammad affirm? Where is it now? You can't even answer

When you said reliable, what do you mean? Historically reliable? Theologically reliable? Logically reliable?

If you misunderstood what Allah says in the Quran, and you insist on your misunderstanding, I cannot do anything.

[pinkpanther]

When I say I'm not sure, I mean WE are not sure.

So yes, you also don't know what Jesus said. Do you know Jesus spoke in Aramaic? You read the Gospel in English.

You not sure? We also not sure if Muhammad ever saw Gabriel? We are not sure if the Quran is God's words....because there is only one testimony...

[Ali Imran]

U still considered as worships your muh everyday without fail !
Why not u pray for the people in Gaza who are still alive and suffering?

See? You don't know that we pray for the people in Gaza everyday.

I pray for my late parents everyday.

[Lukongsimi]

Woe to those who misinterpret and add their own meanings....you are attributing injustice to Allah by putting words in His mouth...Not once did He say that the gospel was corrupted but you moslems believe otherwise....

You are the wrong path bro

Path of destruction he is heading !

[Lukongsimi]

See? You don't know that we pray for the people in Gaza everyday.

I pray for my late parents everyday.

In Bible we are not advised to pray for the dead
Pray when they are still alive

[Ali Imran]

Woe to those who misinterpret and add their own meanings....you are attributing injustice to Allah by putting words in His mouth...Not once did He say that the gospel was corrupted but you moslems believe otherwise....

You are the wrong path bro

Okay. ALL Muslims are wrong. Some youtuber you saw is right.

[pinkpanther]

When you said reliable, what do you mean? Historically reliable? Theologically reliable? Logically reliable?

If you misunderstood what Allah says in the Quran, and you insist on your misunderstanding, I cannot do anything.

The "reliability of the New Testament (NT)" refers to the extent to which the documents of the New Testament are considered to be trustworthy and accurate records of events, teachings, and historical figures, particularly Jesus Christ and the early church

I ask you for a specific verse from the Quran to show me that the christians are corrupting and changing the text of the bible...but you show me a warning from your Quran....can you even understand simple English?

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[Ali Imran]

In Bible we are not advised to pray for the dead
Pray when they are still alive

Please show me where the Bible says we cannot pray for those who have passed on.

[Lukongsimi]

Praying for the dead is not a biblical concept. Our prayers have no bearing on someone once he or she has died. The reality is that, at the point of death, one’s eternal destiny is confirmed. Either he is saved through faith in Christ and is in heaven where he is experiencing rest and joy in God’s presence, or he is in torment in hell. The story of the rich man and Lazarus the beggar provides us with a vivid illustration of this truth. Jesus plainly used this story to teach that after death the unrighteous are eternally separated from God, that they remember their rejection of the gospel, that they are in torment, and that their condition cannot be remedied (Luke 16:19-31).

Often, people who have lost a loved one are encouraged to pray for those who have passed away and for their families. Of course, we should pray for those grieving, but for the dead, no. No one should ever believe that someone may be able to pray for him, thereby effecting some kind of favorable outcome, after he has died. The Bible teaches that the eternal state of mankind is determined by our actions during our lives on earth. “The soul who sins is the one who will die. . . . The righteousness of the righteous man will be credited to him, and the wickedness of the wicked will be charged against him” (Ezekiel 18:20).

[Ali Imran]

The "reliability of the New Testament (NT)" refers to the extent to which the documents of the New Testament are considered to be trustworthy and accurate records of events, teachings, and historical figures, particularly Jesus Christ and the early church

I ask you for a specific verse from the Quran to show me that the christians are corrupting and changing the text of the bible...but you show me a warning from your Quran....can you even understand simple English?

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Again. Why do you need to go to the Quran when the leading NT scholars already said it is corrupted?

[pinkpanther]

Okay. ALL Muslims are wrong. Some youtuber you saw is right.

Show me the verse where Allah says that what we have are corrupted scriptures

[pinkpanther]

Again. Why do you need to go to the Quran when the leading NT scholars already said it is corrupted?

Again. Why do you need to go to the scholars when your Quran (fully detailed) already said it is not corrupted?

[Ali Imran]

Again. Why do you need to go to the scholars when your Quran (fully detailed) already said it is not corrupted?

When did the Quran ever mention the Bible?

[pinkpanther]

When did the Quran ever mention the Bible?

I was referring to the Gospel all along

[pinkpanther]

**Scholars and Historians Who Have Recognized the Reliability of the NT Texts:**

1. **F.F. Bruce (1910–1990)** 
  A renowned biblical scholar and historian, Bruce argued for the general reliability of the NT manuscripts based on textual criticism and historical evidence.

2. **Sir William Mitchell Ramsay (1851–1939)** 
  An archaeologist and New Testament historian, Ramsay initially approached the NT skeptically but became convinced of its historical reliability through archaeological and textual evidence.

3. **N.T. Wright (b. 1948)** 
  A contemporary New Testament scholar and theologian, Wright affirms the historical credibility of the resurrection accounts and the general reliability of the NT.

4. **Craig Blomberg (b. 1953)** 
  A biblical scholar who defends the historical reliability of the NT, especially the Gospels.

5. **Bart D. Ehrman (b. 1955)** 
  While Ehrman is skeptical about the inerrancy of the NT, he recognizes that the majority of the New Testament manuscripts are reliable texts, based on extensive textual criticism.

**Historians and Scholars Who Have Commented on the Manuscript Evidence:**

- **John A. T. Robinson** 
  In his book *"Redating the New Testament"*, he discusses the early dating and textual transmission of NT manuscripts.

- **Henry H. Hittell** 
  An older scholar who examined the textual transmission of biblical manuscripts.

**Important Notes:**

- Many scholars agree that the NT manuscripts are among the earliest and most well-attested texts in history, with thousands of copies and fragments dating from within a century of the original writings.
- While some scholars question the theological claims or interpret certain passages differently, many acknowledge that the textual transmission and historical core of the NT are well-supported by manuscript evidence.

**In Summary:**

- **Scholars like F.F. Bruce, William Ramsay, and Craig Blomberg** affirm the general reliability of the NT texts based on historical and textual evidence.
- **Historians like Bart Ehrman** recognize the textual transmission's robustness but may have different views on theological interpretations.

[Ali Imran]

I was referring to the Gospel all along

And I have explained to you that the Gospels in the NT is not the Injeel referred to in the Quran.

[pinkpanther]

They are the experts. ..you are nothing!
Don pretend that you know more than them

[pinkpanther]

And I have explained to you that the Gospels in the NT is not the Injeel referred to in the Quran.

 how do you know if you have never seen the Injil? You can't explain anything that you explain

What is in the Injil? Allah says it is with us.. Muhammad affirms it ..now I ask you, what is written in it

[pinkpanther]

This is what we call the Islamic dilemma...they will give you an answer that will raise more doubts..

Our friend is trying to dodge all the bullets..

They will not give you a direct answer, they will even misinterpret their own texts to defend their faith.... God bear witness..

I rest my case

[Ali Imran]

 how do you know if you have never seen the Injil? You can't explain anything that you explain

What is in the Injil? Allah says it is with us.. Muhammad affirms it ..now I ask you, what is written in it

The Injeel referred to in the Quran is what the messenger of Allah, Isa pbuh, spoke, not what the author of Mark, Matthew, Luke, or John wrote.