[pinkpanther]

That's why you have the red-letter Bible. But are they reliable? That's the question.

Ask Wallace

[Ali Imran]

Ask Wallace

He already said you cannot trust it 100%. 

For every red-letter verse, you cannot trust it 100%.

[pinkpanther]

He already said you cannot trust it 100%. 

For every red-letter verse, you cannot trust it 100%.

If he cannot trust it, .. then elaborate why he thinks Christianity is the truth?

[Ali Imran]

 Even copies of manuscripts don turn out 100% consistent....so that's a false equivalent..

Next time be careful who you use as an argument..I'm humble and I don intend to mock you further

Why do you need to mock? Why can't you discuss with civility? Like adults?

I only quoted Dan Wallace, who said you cannot trust the NT 100%, because he is a Christian.

[Ali Imran]

If he cannot trust it, .. then elaborate why he thinks Christianity is the truth?

I don't know that. Maybe he is on pascal's wager.

[Ali Imran]

In Islamic tradition, Jesus (Isa in Arabic) is referred to as "Kalimatullah," which translates to "Word of God".

Please show me the verse.

[pinkpanther]

Why do you need to mock? Why can't you discuss with civility? Like adults?

I only quoted Dan Wallace, who said you cannot trust the NT 100%, because he is a Christian.

Next time pls quote why he believes Christianity is the truth...don you also want to strengthen my faith

[pinkpanther]

Please show me the verse.

https://al-islam.org/jesus-kalimat-allah...h-word-god

[Ali Imran]

Next time pls quote why he believes Christianity is the truth...don you also want to strengthen my faith

I do not know his faith, or the level of his faith. That is between him and God.

What he said about the reliability of the NT is what I want to show you and I've shown you.

[pinkpanther]

I do not know his faith, or the level of his faith. That is between him and God.

What he said about the reliability of the NT is what I want to show you and I've shown you.

You have shown mẹ that Wallace believes Christianity is the truth... that goes out of your beliefs

[Ali Imran]

https://al-islam.org/jesus-kalimat-allah...h-word-god

I think you didn't read that article carefully. Here, let me show you. He clarified. The more precise is "word from God", as I've told you.

[Ali Imran]

You have shown mẹ that Wallace believes Christianity is the truth... that goes out of your beliefs

He, being a Christian, does not invalidate Islam, nor does it falsify what I quoted him saying, that the NT is not 100% reliable.

[pinkpanther]

I think you didn't read that article carefully. Here, let me show you. He clarified. The more precise is "word from God", as I've told you.

So "word of God" is not wrong either...see my memory served me good

[pinkpanther]

He, being a Christian, does not invalidate Islam, nor does it falsify what I quoted him saying, that the NT is not 100% reliable.

So if you want to invalid an argument, why do you bring in someone who validate my beliefs

Pls pay attention to why he believes Christianity to be the truth...because his reasons are good

[Ali Imran]

So "word of God" is not wrong either...see my memory served me good

1. Word from God 
2. Word of God.

The first one is from the Quran, the second one is from a man.

[Ali Imran]

So if you want to invalid an argument, why do you bring in someone who validate my beliefs

Pls pay attention to why he believes Christianity to be the truth...because his reasons are good

You said the NT is reliable. Dan Wallace, who is a Christian and a scholar, says it is not 100% reliable.

Dan Wallace invalidates what you said. Or perhaps, you would like to now take his position, not 100% reliable.

[pinkpanther]

1. Word from God 
2. Word of God.

The first one is from the Quran, the second one is from a man.

Let's go along...is the word from God created or uncreated?

[Ali Imran]

Let's go along...is the word from God created or uncreated?

Jesus is created.

[pinkpanther]

Jesus is created.

So the Quran is created?

[pinkpanther]

You said the NT is reliable. Dan Wallace, who is a Christian and a scholar, says it is not 100% reliable.

Dan Wallace invalidates what you said. Or perhaps, you would like to now take his position, not 100% reliable.

He already said 

"He notes that all inquiries and examinations of the truth have unique deficiencies and there is no perfect investigation, so we must draw on reasonable inferences."

 a high reliability is good for me...only death is 100% certain

[Hope]

https://al-islam.org/jesus-kalimat-allah...h-word-god

Yes,
Jesus is kalimatullah because of his mysterious conception.

However we don’t agree with the views of “ AL ISLAM ORG” which belongs to Ahamadi.
Ahamadi even call Buddha and Confucius as Allah’s prophet.

Please discuss based on Quran and Authentic Hadith instead of random websites

[pinkpanther]

Yes,
Jesus is kalimatullah because of his mysterious conception.

However we don’t agree with the views of “ AL ISLAM ORG” which belongs to Ahamadi.
Ahamadi even call Buddha and Confucius as Allah’s prophet.

Please discuss based on Quran and Authentic Hadith instead of random websites

https://www.isaandislam.com/muslim-belie...ima-allah/

[pinkpanther]

Yes,
Jesus is kalimatullah because of his mysterious conception.

However we don’t agree with the views of “ AL ISLAM ORG” which belongs to Ahamadi.
Ahamadi even call Buddha and Confucius as Allah’s prophet.

Please discuss based on Quran and Authentic Hadith instead of random websites

Jesus is the word of God in the Bible and the Quran...this we can at least agree

[Ali Imran]

So the Quran is created?

Why do you want to mock?

[pinkpanther]

Why do you want to mock?

I don know..you tell me 
The sunni thinks it is uncreated but the Shias think otherwise...there are no unity in their beliefs

[pinkpanther]

Why do you want to mock?

Next time if you think that the gospels are unreliable, pls refer to Wallace..

[Ali Imran]

I don know..you tell me 
The sunni thinks it is uncreated but the Shias think otherwise...there are no unity in their beliefs

You mock because you just cannot discuss with civility. 

When it comes to the Quran, the correct faith is to believe it is from God. If we don't believe that, it will affect our salvation. To say created or uncreated doesn't affect salvation.

When it comes to the divide between Catholics and Protestants, that affects salvation.

[Ali Imran]

Next time if you think that the gospels are unreliable, pls refer to Wallace..

Yes, he said it is not 100% reliable.

And today, you agree that it is not 100% reliable. We have made progress.

The question is: how unreliable is it?

[pinkpanther]

You mock because you just cannot discuss with civility. 

When it comes to the Quran, the correct faith is to believe it is from God. If we don't believe that, it will affect our salvation. To say created or uncreated doesn't affect salvation.

When it comes to the divide between Catholics and Protestants, that affects salvation.

As a matter of fact, it does affect salvation

If the Quran is considered to be created, it implies it has a beginning and end, and could potentially be viewed as being subject to human interpretation or change over time. 

If it's viewed as uncreated, it is seen as eternal, divine, and timeless, implying its guidance is absolute and unchanging. 

[pinkpanther]

Yes, he said it is not 100% reliable.

And today, you agree that it is not 100% reliable. We have made progress.

The question is: how unreliable is it?

Well according to Wallace..it is highly reliable...no scholars will give you a 100% certainty ..