Scripture readings for Christmas

(16-08-2025, 09:13 AM)cheekopekman Wrote:  Why did Jesus say, "Don't throw pearls to pigs" leh? 🤔 So insulting leh!

It is a metaphor, just a saying!
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(16-08-2025, 09:17 AM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  who are u to argue with God’s will that all man be saved by Christ sacrifice on the cross ?

Did Ezekiel 18 provide us with incorrect information about salvation? I'm asking because Ezekiel didn't say anything about God needing a blood sacrifice to forgive the sins of mankind.
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(16-08-2025, 09:27 AM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Did Ezekiel 18 provide us with incorrect information about salvation? I'm asking because Ezekiel didn't say anything about God needing a blood sacrifice to forgive the sins of mankind.
Ezekiel was in the old covenant 
Now it’s the new covenant  by Christ 
U use Ezekiel to attack Jesus crucifixtion we can see  your bait.

As a dog returns to its vomit, so fools repeat their folly
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(16-08-2025, 09:31 AM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  Ezekiel was in the old covenant 
Now it’s the new covenant  by Christ 
U use Ezekiel to attack Jesus crucifixtion we can see  your bait.

So in the old covenant, God could just erase our sins without a blood sacrifice but in the new covenant, God lost the ability to do that and instead, God must get an innocent man tortured, humiliated, and brutally killed to erase our sins.

Does that make sense to you?
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(16-08-2025, 09:35 AM)Ali Imran Wrote:  So in the old covenant, God could just erase our sins without a blood sacrifice but in the new covenant, God lost the ability to do that and instead, God must get an innocent man tortured, humiliated, and brutally killed to erase our sins.

Does that make sense to you?

Wow! U dare to judge God?
Whatever God intends its His will

As a dog returns to its vomit, so fools repeat their folly
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(16-08-2025, 09:38 AM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  Wow! U dare to judge God?
Whatever God intends its His will

I'm questioning your faith. Where did you get it from? Who taught you that?

I don't question God or judge God.
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(16-08-2025, 09:49 AM)Ali Imran Wrote:  I'm questioning your faith. Where did you get it from? Who taught you that?

I don't question God or judge God.
Who are u to question my faith ?are u God?
It’s your faith that needs to be questioned

As a dog returns to its vomit, so fools repeat their folly
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Silly parrot forever parroting !

As a dog returns to its vomit, so fools repeat their folly
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(16-08-2025, 09:53 AM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  Who are u to question my faith ?are u God?
It’s your faith that needs to be questioned

Ok. If you dislike critical questions about your faith, I will not ask anymore.

What is your plan today?
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(16-08-2025, 10:09 AM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Ok. If you dislike critical questions about your faith, I will not ask anymore.

What is your plan today?
Haven’t decide yet
Maybe u want to bait me saying today it’s sabbath day lol

As a dog returns to its vomit, so fools repeat their folly
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(16-08-2025, 10:24 AM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  Haven’t decide yet
Maybe u want to bait me saying today it’s sabbath day lol

Just making conversation.

I've booked a hotel up in the mountains today, for 1 night. The drive is about 2 hours so not too far away.

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This is the room. About $35 bucks only. Breakfast included.

Awesome right?

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(16-08-2025, 08:19 AM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Solah is wajib (compulsory) for us. Allah doesn't need our worship. Allah is still Lord whether we worship Him or not.

As for your faith, you believe God needs blood to forgive sins. With the blood sacrifice, God cannot erase sins. That's what you believe. But I must add that Ezekiel doesn't agree with that idea.

Solah is obligatory because it is a command from Allah. Therefore, He requires and needs you to pray to Him in obedience. This is the purpose of your creation....to worship Him.

If He didn't need you, you wouldn't exist!
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(16-08-2025, 10:47 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Solah is obligatory because it is a command from Allah. Therefore, He requires and needs you to pray to Him in obedience. This is the purpose of your creation....to worship Him.

If He didn't need you, you wouldn't exist!

Disagree. 

O mankind, you are those in need of Allah, while Allah is the Free of need, the Praiseworthy. - Quran 35:15
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(16-08-2025, 10:43 AM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Just making conversation.

I've booked a hotel up in the mountains today, for 1 night. The drive is about 2 hours so not too far away.

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I've stayed in mountain resorts that are more scenic than this... Sure, $35 might seem like a deal, but for $50, I could get a two-bedroom resort apartment with an unobstructed ocean view.

I'm not even trying to boast.
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(16-08-2025, 10:51 AM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Disagree. 

O mankind, you are those in need of Allah, while Allah is the Free of need, the Praiseworthy. - Quran 35:15

He creates you so that you can worship Him...
He creates you to satisfy His needs...do you not understand....

For eg ..I create corns by planting the seeds and when they mature, I harvest them for my needs!
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(16-08-2025, 10:54 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:  I've stayed in mountain resorts that are more scenic than this... Sure, $35 might seem like a deal, but for $50, I could get a two-bedroom resort apartment with an unobstructed ocean view.

I'm not even trying to boast.

Ocean view was an option but the 3 hour drive down south made me choose the mountains instead. 

My drive today is just 2 hours highway.
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(16-08-2025, 10:56 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:  He creates you so that you can worship Him...
He creates you to satisfy His needs...do you not understand....

For eg ..I create corns by planting the seeds and when they mature, I harvest them for my needs!

I prefer the words of Allah in the Quran over yours.

You're comparing yourself, a human, with the almighty God, Lord of all worlds.
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(16-08-2025, 10:57 AM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Ocean view was an option but the 3 hour drive down south made me choose the mountains instead. 

My drive today is just 2 hours highway.

There is only so much you can do at these mountain resorts...1 day will do! It is better for you to attend those religious exchange between moslems and christians...it serve more purpose
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(16-08-2025, 10:59 AM)Ali Imran Wrote:  I prefer the words of Allah in the Quran over yours.

You're comparing yourself, a human, with the almighty God, Lord of all worlds.

It is clear that you are created to worship Him...that is His needs! That is simple to understand!
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(16-08-2025, 10:59 AM)Ali Imran Wrote:  I prefer the words of Allah in the Quran over yours.

But Allah says the injil is with us!  

So let the people of the Gospel judge by what Allah has revealed in it. And those who do not judge by what Allah has revealed are ËątrulyËş the rebellious.

But you said we don have the Injil! So do you still prefer the words of Allah?
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(16-08-2025, 11:23 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:  It is clear that you are created to worship Him...that is His needs! That is simple to understand!

If we don't worship God, does God cease to exist? The answer is no.

Ergo, God doesn't need our worship.
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(16-08-2025, 11:47 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:  But Allah says the injil is with us!  

So let the people of the Gospel judge by what Allah has revealed in it. And those who do not judge by what Allah has revealed are ËątrulyËş the rebellious.

But you said we don have the Injil! So do you still prefer the words of Allah?

In the opening verses of Luke, is that Allah's words or from the author of Luke?
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(16-08-2025, 09:25 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:  It is a metaphor, just a saying!

Why did Jesus refer to people as pigs and dogs leh? Thinking So insulting leh! Confused
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(16-08-2025, 11:59 AM)Ali Imran Wrote:  In the opening verses of Luke, is that Allah's words or from the author of Luke?

God's inspired author!
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(16-08-2025, 09:18 AM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  Wow ! u dare judge Jesus?

I'm asking a question and making a comment lah! Big Grin
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(16-08-2025, 11:55 AM)Ali Imran Wrote:  If we don't worship God, does God cease to exist? The answer is no.

Ergo, God doesn't need our worship.

God will not cease to exist but He will not see the need to create you if you don worship Him
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(16-08-2025, 12:05 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  God's inspired author!

Did the author of Luke say he was inspired by God?
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(16-08-2025, 12:07 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  God will not cease to exist but He will not see the need to create you if you don worship Him

So many people don't worship God but He creates them nonetheless.

So your argument doesn't stand up to what I've said before.
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(16-08-2025, 12:03 PM)cheekopekman Wrote:  Why did Jesus refer to people as pigs and dogs leh? Thinking So insulting leh! Confused

If you are a gentile, you are refer as dogs..unclean..to you it may sound insulting..to them maybe nothing Big Grin
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