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(24-08-2025, 12:29 PM)pinkpanther Wrote: The concept of the Trinity is straightforward and doesn't require much explanation... It's similar to asking why you have a body, soul, and spirit....it's something God created you to be. You can't possibly have the answer for your own creation
So There's no need to delve deeper, as these are profound mysteries that human minds can't fully answer. What we can do is provide a brief explanation, which is sufficient.
Again, you want to bring in that analogy, which means the Father is not fully God, which is a great blasphemy.
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(24-08-2025, 12:33 PM)pinkpanther Wrote: The concept was accepted by the Hindus and christians and it is a widely accepted...we can see God but you can't ..that why Madhi Abdullah says the moslems are under a curse!
Hndus are polytheists. Do you admit that you are also a polytheist since you align yourself with the same concept as Hinduism?
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(24-08-2025, 01:02 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: Again, you want to bring in that analogy, which means the Father is not fully God, which is a great blasphemy.
The Father is God but not in its full entirety. The Godhead consists of the father,son and holy spirit
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(24-08-2025, 12:47 PM)pinkpanther Wrote: Good find!
Yes, the moslems are under a curse...they are no longer a strong nation

Au contraire. We are the strongest people spiritually. Despite the great test we are going through today, our faith remains strong. We are committed to our religion.
Remember, you have a weak faith, as you admitted it yourself.
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(24-08-2025, 01:09 PM)pinkpanther Wrote: The Father is God but not in its full entirety. The Godhead consists of the father,son and holy spirit
You said that already. The Father is a partial God.
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(24-08-2025, 01:04 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: Hndus are polytheists. Do you admit that you are also a polytheist since you align yourself with the same concept as Hinduism?
They are polytheists because they believe in more than one God but we insist that the one God is co existing in 3 persons so we are not polytheists..that is the difference
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(24-08-2025, 01:14 PM)pinkpanther Wrote: They are polytheists because they believe in more than one God but we insist that the one God is co existing in 3 persons so we are not polytheists..that is the difference
If the Father is partial God, the Son is partial God, the Holy Spirit is partial God, and together they make 1 God, people can buy that you believe in only 1 God.
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(24-08-2025, 01:12 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: Au contraire. We are the strongest people spiritually. Despite the great test we are going through today, our faith remains strong. We are committed to our religion.
Remember, you have a weak faith, as you admitted it yourself.
Strongest?

no Nobel winners, moslems migrating, poverty, no freedom and democracy. What is so great when you are under a curse? Are you going to heaven when your religion is under a curse?
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(24-08-2025, 01:21 PM)pinkpanther Wrote: Strongest?
no Nobel winners, moslems migrating, poverty, no freedom and democracy. What is so great when you are under a curse? Are you going to heaven when your religion is under a curse?
Yes, we are the strongest nation spiritually. Our commitment to our faith is the strongest of any kind in the world.
Your lie about the curse is noted.
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(24-08-2025, 01:17 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: If the Father is partial God, the Son is partial God, the Holy Spirit is partial God, and together they make 1 God, people can buy that you believe in only 1 God.
You do know what is one to the power of 3....I have a body, spirit and soul but I am one not 3...you have think out of the box...I know what Islam does to you, it restricts your ability for critical thinking...you are only allow one dimensional thinking...with that in mind, there is no way that you can understand God fully...
The answers are very clear when you compare the Bible and the Quran...the Bible gives you every single details while the Quran chose to leave out specific details as it pleases...which one is more likely from God? Of cos the Bible!
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(24-08-2025, 01:29 PM)pinkpanther Wrote: You do know what is one to the power of 3....I have a body, spirit and soul but I am one not 3...you have think out of the box...I know what Islam does to you, it restricts your ability for critical thinking...you are only allow one dimensional thinking...with that in mind, there is no way that you can understand God fully...
The answers are very clear when you compare the Bible and the Quran...the Bible gives you every single details while the Quran chose to leave out specific details as it pleases...which one is more likely from God? Of cos the Bible!
A while back, you agreed that the Father is fully 100% God. Now you are saying the Father is a partial God.
I think logically.
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(24-08-2025, 01:29 PM)pinkpanther Wrote: You do know what is one to the power of 3....I have a body, spirit and soul but I am one not 3...you have think out of the box...I know what Islam does to you, it restricts your ability for critical thinking...you are only allow one dimensional thinking...with that in mind, there is no way that you can understand God fully...
The answers are very clear when you compare the Bible and the Quran...the Bible gives you every single details while the Quran chose to leave out specific details as it pleases...which one is more likely from God? Of cos the Bible!
I am critically examining your faith in the Trinity. You thought about it and you came back with the analogy of the light bulb, which crumbles as soon as I examine it. That proves you lack critical thinking.
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(24-08-2025, 01:26 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: Yes, we are the strongest nation spiritually. Our commitment to our faith is the strongest of any kind in the world.
Your lie about the curse is noted.
How is your faith considered strong when sex talks are allowed in a place of worship?
I didn't lie about the curse, a Moslem, with authority from the will of Muhammad said these..if he indeed was selected by Muhammad then you have truly disrespected his wishes...
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(24-08-2025, 02:05 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: I am critically examining your faith in the Trinity. You thought about it and you came back with the analogy of the light bulb, which crumbles as soon as I examine it. That proves you lack critical thinking.
We pay specific details in everything...we could easily just go with the Jews and moslems that God is one...we did indeed agree with both but we further elaborate on the Trinity...we are not afraid to speak the truth...but you are just too afraid to accept the truth! You believe a book that doesn't tells you much, you believe a God whose existence remains a doubt to most..
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(24-08-2025, 02:09 PM)pinkpanther Wrote: How is your faith considered strong when sex talks are allowed in a place of worship?
I didn't lie about the curse, a Moslem, with authority from the will of Muhammad said these..if he indeed was selected by Muhammad then you have truly disrespected his wishes...
You need to be honest with yourself when you're arguing. God is witness to our discourse. Did the Hadith you like quoting a sex talk or talking about people with bad character? If you want, I can show you verses from the Bible talking about sex.
And about that curse, ok, you didn't lie. You're just spreading the lies from an unknown person.
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(24-08-2025, 02:14 PM)pinkpanther Wrote: We pay specific details in everything...we could easily just go with the Jews and moslems that God is one...we did indeed agree with both but we further elaborate on the Trinity...we are not afraid to speak the truth...but you are just too afraid to accept the truth! You believe a book that doesn't tells you much, you believe a God whose existence remains a doubt to most..
When you say God is a Trinity, you're negating the Shema, or Tawheed.
If you believe there are 3 fully 100% Gods, and then you say you believe there is 1 God, you're just contradicting yourself. But okay, you have already played the "it is a mystery" card, meaning we have come to the end of our discussion about your faith in God. We, the Muslims and the Jews, say you're a polytheist, not a monotheist.
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(24-08-2025, 07:31 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: You need to be honest with yourself when you're arguing. God is witness to our discourse. Did the Hadith you like quoting a sex talk or talking about people with bad character? If you want, I can show you verses from the Bible talking about sex.
And about that curse, ok, you didn't lie. You're just spreading the lies from an unknown person.
The hadith I mentioned pertains to etiquette....it concerns the act of withdrawing the private part after intimacy with a slave girl. Interestingly, this conversation took place in a place of worship. I cannot endorse such behavior, but it seems you are quite comfortable with it.
Mahdi Abdullah is not an obscure figure... many well-known individuals, including Muhammad, started as unknown. Abdullah has garnered many followers and has spoken critically of both Christians and Jews, not sparing Moslems either. He dares to speak the truth, which you consider lies. While he has awakened, it seems you remain in a deep sleep.
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(24-08-2025, 07:35 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: When you say God is a Trinity, you're negating the Shema, or Tawheed.
If you believe there are 3 fully 100% Gods, and then you say you believe there is 1 God, you're just contradicting yourself. But okay, you have already played the "it is a mystery" card, meaning we have come to the end of our discussion about your faith in God. We, the Muslims and the Jews, say you're a polytheist, not a monotheist.
The first and third largest religions readily accept the concept of the Trinity, whereas it appears that Moslems and Jews find it more difficult to understand. We emphasize Tawhid and have a more detailed understanding than Moslems. God is one, yet exists simultaneously in three persons.
Our prayers are directed solely to God alone. We do not address or praise a man in our prayers, as that would be considered blasphemous. However, Moslems often associate a man with God in the same sentence. Abdullah was correct all along, you people are cursed!
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(25-08-2025, 09:13 AM)pinkpanther Wrote: The first and third largest religions readily accept the concept of the Trinity, whereas it appears that Moslems and Jews find it more difficult to understand. We emphasize Tawhid and have a more detailed understanding than Moslems. God is one, yet exists simultaneously in three persons.
Our prayers are directed solely to God alone. We do not address or praise a man in our prayers, as that would be considered blasphemous. However, Moslems often associate a man with God in the same sentence. Abdullah was correct all along, you people are cursed!
The Hindus are honest. They didn't say they are monotheistic.
Now, is the Father fully 100% God or just a partial God?
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(25-08-2025, 02:53 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: The Hindus are honest. They didn't say they are monotheistic.
Now, is the Father fully 100% God or just a partial God?
Of cos no one will think that they are amonotheist religion...have you not been to a Hindu temple before?
one God who exists eternally as three distinct persons...how many times do you need to be told?
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(25-08-2025, 04:44 PM)pinkpanther Wrote: Of cos no one will think that they are amonotheist religion...have you not been to a Hindu temple before?
one God who exists eternally as three distinct persons...how many times do you need to be told?
Your belief in God is the same as the Hindus, which is why you said only Hindus and Christians understand it. That's why I say Hindus are honest. They don't say they are monotheist. They will admit that they are polytheist.
Everytime we discuss the Trinity, you answers keep changing. That is why I'm now asking you again. Is the Father fully 100% God or a partial God?
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(25-08-2025, 04:51 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: Your belief in God is the same as the Hindus, which is why you said only Hindus and Christians understand it. That's why I say Hindus are honest. They don't say they are monotheist. They will admit that they are polytheist.
Everytime we discuss the Trinity, you answers keep changing. That is why I'm now asking you again. Is the Father fully 100% God or a partial God?
My answer has always been the same while you keep repeating the same questions.... they are all God sharing the same one divine essence.
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(25-08-2025, 05:33 PM)pinkpanther Wrote: My answer has always been the same while you keep repeating the same questions.... they are all God sharing the same one divine essence.
Not too long ago, you said the Father is fully 100% God. Yesterday, you said the Father is not God in entirety, which I understand to mean a partial God.
That's not the same answer man.
So which is it now? Fully 100% God or a partial God?
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(25-08-2025, 05:37 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: Not too long ago, you said the Father is fully 100% God. Yesterday, you said the Father is not God in entirety, which I understand to mean a partial God.
That's not the same answer man.
So which is it now? Fully 100% God or a partial God?
God is one in three persons.... therefore, God the Father is also God, but not in His complete fullness. The Godhead, comprising the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit together represents the full fullness of God.
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