Scripture readings for Christmas
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(19-09-2025, 02:29 PM)pinkpanther Wrote: I already quoted you mark, Luke, Matthew,Joshua, Deuteronomy and they all say the same...all the books are accurate
Noticing that Jesus had given them a good answer, he asked him, “Of all the commandments, which is the most important?” “The most important one,” answered Jesus, “is this: ‘Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one. Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strength." - Mark 12
“Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?” Jesus replied: “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’ This is the first and greatest commandment." - Matthew 22
I'm sure you can see the difference.
19-09-2025, 02:36 PM
(19-09-2025, 02:30 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:![]()
either eyes got problem or head got problem lah
He got both problems lah

As a dog returns to its vomit, so fools repeat their folly
19-09-2025, 02:40 PM
(19-09-2025, 02:35 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: Noticing that Jesus had given them a good answer, he asked him, “Of all the commandments, which is the most important?” “The most important one,” answered Jesus, “is this: ‘Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one. Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strength." - Mark 12
“Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?” Jesus replied: “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’ This is the first and greatest commandment." - Matthew 22
I'm sure you can see the difference.
Let me help a bit lah!

19-09-2025, 02:41 PM
(19-09-2025, 02:35 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: Noticing that Jesus had given them a good answer, he asked him, “Of all the commandments, which is the most important?” “The most important one,” answered Jesus, “is this: ‘Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one. Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strength." - Mark 12Matthew didn’t add s after the Lord
“Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?” Jesus replied: “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’ This is the first and greatest commandment." - Matthew 22
I'm sure you can see the difference
Means one lah
As a dog returns to its vomit, so fools repeat their folly
19-09-2025, 02:43 PM
(19-09-2025, 02:40 PM)cheekopekman Wrote: Let me help a bit lah!Matthew was 1 of Jesus' disciples and his gospel was written to the Jews lah! Mark wasn't a disciple but his house was used for the Lord's Supper and his gospel was written to the Gentiles lah!
So which Gospel, Mark or Matthew, is telling us the real answer from Jesus?
Was Jesus's answer with the Shema, as in Mark, or not, as in Matthew?
19-09-2025, 02:44 PM
(19-09-2025, 02:40 PM)cheekopekman Wrote: Let me help a bit lah!Matthew was 1 of Jesus' disciples and his gospel was written to the Jews lah! Mark wasn't a disciple but his house was used for the Lord's Supper and his gospel was written to the Gentiles lah!
Tot u said u are busy with mission work don’t want waste time here?
Lol
As a dog returns to its vomit, so fools repeat their folly
19-09-2025, 02:46 PM
(19-09-2025, 02:35 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: Noticing that Jesus had given them a good answer, he asked him, “Of all the commandments, which is the most important?” “The most important one,” answered Jesus, “is this: ‘Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one. Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strength." - Mark 12
“Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?” Jesus replied: “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’ This is the first and greatest commandment." - Matthew 22
I'm sure you can see the difference.
Ya just don have the hear O Israel, the core message is the same... Luke also don have hear O Israel.
19-09-2025, 02:48 PM
(19-09-2025, 02:40 PM)cheekopekman Wrote: Let me help a bit lah!Matthew was 1 of Jesus' disciples and his gospel was written to the Jews lah! Mark wasn't a disciple but his house was used for the Lord's Supper and his gospel was written to the Gentiles lah!
I already told him it was written for the gentiles...but he doesn't listen..he acted like some famous scholars

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(19-09-2025, 02:57 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: No, we can clearly see that the answer given by Jesus in Mark is not the same as in Matthew.
Assuming that Mark is correct, why did Matthew remove the Shema?
Both didn’t copy from each other how to be the same ?
As long the meaning is there !
As a dog returns to its vomit, so fools repeat their folly
19-09-2025, 03:23 PM
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(19-09-2025, 02:57 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: No, we can clearly see that the answer given by Jesus in Mark is not the same as in Matthew.
Assuming that Mark is correct, why did Matthew remove the Shema?
I can say a lot of things you know...but I don blame you if you cannot get it word for word correctly..if you can get the gist, it is more than enough
19-09-2025, 03:27 PM
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(19-09-2025, 03:27 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: If the author can change the words of Jesus in that case, what else was changed?
The core message was not changed....everyone interpret and express differently ..but we can see from the messages that they mark,Luke,Matthew,Joshua,deuteromy all agree ..
The only disagreement comes from the Quran
If you are afraid to answer just admit so..
I will spare your blushes
19-09-2025, 03:36 PM
(19-09-2025, 02:46 PM)pinkpanther Wrote: Ya just don have the hear O Israel, the core message is the same... Luke also don have hear O Israel.
I think I know where you are coming from lah, bro!

19-09-2025, 03:38 PM
(19-09-2025, 03:32 PM)pinkpanther Wrote: The core message was not changed....everyone interpret and express differently ..but we can see from the messages that they mark,Luke,Matthew,Joshua,deuteromy all agree ..
The only disagreement comes from the Quran
If you are afraid to answer just admit so..
I will spare your blushes
So, assuming Mark is correct, that means Matthew removed the words of Jesus.
Why?
19-09-2025, 03:40 PM
(19-09-2025, 03:36 PM)cheekopekman Wrote: I think I know where you are coming from lah, bro!The phrase "Hear, O Israel..." was written by Moses to the Israelites during that era lah! When Jesus said that statement, He omitted that phrase to include all Gentiles like us lah! We must understand the timeline lah!
According to Mark, Jesus didn't omit that phrase.
So why is it different in Matthew?
19-09-2025, 03:43 PM
(19-09-2025, 03:36 PM)cheekopekman Wrote: I think I know where you are coming from lah, bro!The phrase "Hear, O Israel..." was written by Moses to the Israelites during that era lah! When Jesus said that statement, He omitted that phrase to include all Gentiles like us lah! We must understand the timeline lah!
Ya lah .some more mark was not the disciple..but he gets the reliable information from other sources...
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19-09-2025, 04:09 PM
(19-09-2025, 03:47 PM)pinkpanther Wrote: You might have to go to the deep south to give him the answer
It's okay if you cannot answer why Matthew changed the words of Jesus.
I suppose you also have no answer why Matthew changed the words of Jesus again in the episode below.
“Why do you call me good?” Jesus answered. - Mark 10:18
“Why ask me about what is good?” Jesus replied. - Matthew 19:17
19-09-2025, 04:16 PM
(19-09-2025, 04:09 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: It's okay if you cannot answer why Matthew changed the words of Jesus.
I suppose you also have no answer why Matthew changed the words of Jesus again in the episode below.
“Why do you call me good?” Jesus answered. - Mark 10:18
“Why ask me about what is good?” Jesus replied. - Matthew 19:17
No scholars say Matthew changed the words...why are you lying?
You avoid so many of my questions..so now you want to ask another question?

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