[pinkpanther]

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[pinkpanther]

What kind of religion is this ?
threaten people only

We are lucky to be living in singapore and in this era.....
If we are living in Malaysia or other moslem countries....this forum will be closed and we will be imprisoned for speaking freely..

[pinkpanther]

What kind of religion is this ?
threaten people only

This is a religion of peace

[Lukongsimi]

We are lucky to be living in singapore and in this era.....
If we are living in Malaysia or other moslem countries....this forum will be closed and we will be imprisoned for speaking freely..

Kia si lung 😆

[Lukongsimi]

This is a religion of peace

Ya peace peace but no peace 😆

[cheekopekman]

Ya 
Here got spies also 
😆

Last time I went to China for a mission trip to preach the gospel to non-Christians then got 公安 police disturbed us lah!  That's an example of Satan's disruption lah!

[pinkpanther]

Ya peace peace but no peace 😆

When there are no more religions but only Islam then there will be peace....I'm sure the moslems here will agree..

[pinkpanther]

Last time I went to China for a mission trip to preach the gospel to non-Christians then got 公安 police disturbed us lah!  That's an example of Satan's disruption lah!

You speak English to the Chinese? You sure they can understand singlish? 

[Lukongsimi]

Last time I went to China for a mission trip to preach the gospel to non-Christians then got 公安 police disturbed us lah!  That's an example of Satan's disruption lah!

Got any harvests?

[cheekopekman]

You speak English to the Chinese? You sure they can understand singlish? 

我会讲华语啦！haha

[cheekopekman]

Got any harvests?

Yes. We helped some villagers built a school for their kids lah!

[Lukongsimi]

When there are no more religions but only Islam then there will be peace....I'm sure the moslems here will agree..

They will be left behind while Christians raptured up Liao.
lol

[Lukongsimi]

Yes. We helped some villagers built a school for their kids lah!

Heard Kong hee church did that. U from his church?

[pinkpanther]

How To Present The Gospel To A Muslim?

[cheekopekman]

Heard Kong hee church did that. U from his church?

No lah!

[pinkpanther]

我会讲华语啦！haha

你的华语几够力一下喔！

[pinkpanther]

How do we know Jesus was really who he said he was?

[S I M T A N]

They are not my beliefs. My arguments here are based on your scriptures. I don't believe nor disbelieve your scriptures. I don't interpret them. I quote them as they are written. You cannot tell me James didn't oppose Paul when the text clearly shows that. James' arguments in James 2 were against the notion of sola fide.

If you say James and Paul were on the same page, you're being intellectually dishonest.

In reply to your previous posts some time back regarding the controversial sola fide principle, I gave a blow-by-blow explanation of the problematic verses. But you didn't address the issues I raised, such as people not reading James's verses in context or reading them out of context. Whatever I'd written about the sola fide issue time and time again, you just passed it over. You misinterpreted those verses, and your stock reply would be "Christians say no need to be obedient to God's law," and "Can disregard God's commandments," which of course is completely unscriptural.

When James says that we've been born again and justified by faith, he doesn't think we're born again by our works. A person is justified by what he does and not by faith alone. James was replying to errorists who mistakenly thought that if they had faith, they didn't need to show their love by a life of faith (James 2:14-17) He countered this error by teaching that true, saving faith is alive, showing itself to be so by deeds of love (James 2:18,26). The author of James taught that justification is by faith alone and also that faith is never alone but shows itself to be alive by good deeds that express a believer's thanks to God for the free gift of salvation by faith in Jesus Christ. James actually stressed the necessity of good works as a consequence or "fruit" of faith.

The crux of the matter is that people can't earn their salvation by keeping a set of rules because Jesus removed the law as a requirement for achieving righteousness with God (Rom 10:4). This doesn't mean we can celebrate, discard the law and have no misgiving about sinning. In Christianity, faith and works go hand in hand. The essential truths of the gospel are simple enough for a youngster to understand them. It's quite clear that Jesus taught justification by faith alone. Sola fide is a central biblical distinctive, if not the single most important doctrine to get right. This is the doctrine that makes authentic Christianity distinct from every other religions, including yours.

For people like you who preach salvation by works, I can only conclude that they do not believe that sola fide is the only alternative to a damning system of works-based salvation.

[S I M T A N]

I have more important things to do than winning a debate or losing lah!  I'm preparing myself for a mission trip with a mission team from my church liao lah! "Make disciples of all nations..." says the Lord Jesus in the Great Commission lah! I confess that I'm very lousy in debates and arguments lah!

PP is right. Our goal isn't to win an argument but to win the other person to faith in God's only way to eternal life in heaven through Christ alone. And besides, we shouldn't shoot down unbelievers in a verbal firefight. I believe we've been in enough theological debates with people about spiritual matters to know that it's possible to win a rhetorical battle but lose the spiritual war for a person's eternal soul.

I was pleasantly surprised to learn that you're a man of mission who's going to expend time and efforts for some worthy cause soon. So you're also a member of God's squad who brings the glad tidings to lost souls. I'll be taking a sabbatical in a few days' time and won't be posting for a few weeks. I wish you a fruitful and spiritually uplifting mission. God bless.

[cheekopekman]

PP is right. Our goal isn't to win an argument but to win the other person to faith in God's only way to eternal life in heaven through Christ alone. And besides, we shouldn't shoot down unbelievers in a verbal firefight. I believe we've been in enough theological debates with people about spiritual matters to know that it's possible to win a rhetorical battle but lose the spiritual war for a person's eternal soul.

I was pleasantly surprised to learn that you're a man of mission who's going to expend time and efforts for some worthy cause soon. So you're also a member of God's squad who brings the glad tidings to lost souls. I'll be taking a sabbatical in a few days' time and won't be posting for a few weeks. I wish you a fruitful and spiritually uplifting mission. God bless.

Mission is my passion lah, bro!  Ever since I became a Christian long ago as a teenager I have been busy going on mission trips lah! I was trained and equipped for God's works with God's Word lah! As I read the Bible, especially the Book of Acts, I also learned to do what those apostles had done before in my own small ways. That's why I said that many Muslims have become Christians because we reached out to them with the gospel of salvation and led them to say the sinner's prayer to receive Christ as their Lord and Saviour lah! They were then trained and equipped to go back into their Muslims community and save more souls for the Lord lah! Those who refused to believe and accept Jesus I leave them into the hands of the Lord lah! Let God deal with them in His own ways lah!

[pinkpanther]

In reply to your previous posts some time back regarding the controversial sola fide principle, I gave a blow-by-blow explanation of the problematic verses. But you didn't address the issues I raised, such as people not reading James's verses in context or reading them out of context. Whatever I'd written about the sola fide issue time and time again, you just passed it over. You misinterpreted those verses, and your stock reply would be "Christians say no need to be obedient to God's law," and "Can disregard God's commandments," which of course is completely unscriptural.

When James says that we've been born again and justified by faith, he doesn't think we're born again by our works. A person is justified by what he does and not by faith alone. James was replying to errorists who mistakenly thought that if they had faith, they didn't need to show their love by a life of faith (James 2:14-17) He countered this error by teaching that true, saving faith is alive, showing itself to be so by deeds of love (James 2:18,26). The author of James taught that justification is by faith alone and also that faith is never alone but shows itself to be alive by good deeds that express a believer's thanks to God for the free gift of salvation by faith in Jesus Christ. James actually stressed the necessity of good works as a consequence or "fruit" of faith.

The crux of the matter is that people can't earn their salvation by keeping a set of rules because Jesus removed the law as a requirement for achieving righteousness with God (Rom 10:4). This doesn't mean we can celebrate, discard the law and have no misgiving about sinning. In Christianity, faith and works go hand in hand. The essential truths of the gospel are simple enough for a youngster to understand them. It's quite clear that Jesus taught justification by faith alone. Sola fide is a central biblical distinctive, if not the single most important doctrine to get right. This is the doctrine that makes authentic Christianity distinct from every other religions, including yours.

For people like you who preach salvation by works, I can only conclude that they do not believe that sola fide is the only alternative to a damning system of works-based salvation.

Given the likely need to answer the same question again, I suggest you save this as a draft ..

[Lukongsimi]

Salvation by works one would boast that they did more good deeds and should be rewarded more than those who did less
Do good and behind do evil got use?
God looks into our heart not the outside
The sacrifices of God is a broken spirit and a contrite heart

[pinkpanther]

Salvation by works one would boast that they did more good deeds and should be rewarded more than those who did less
Do good and behind do evil got use?
God looks into our heart not the outside
The sacrifices of God is a broken spirit and a contrite heart

Do good but without heart also no point...like what the moslem said :" hospital visits are considered as doing good"

[pinkpanther]

In reply to your previous posts some time back regarding the controversial sola fide principle, I gave a blow-by-blow explanation of the problematic verses. But you didn't address the issues I raised, such as people not reading James's verses in context or reading them out of context. Whatever I'd written about the sola fide issue time and time again, you just passed it over. You misinterpreted those verses, and your stock reply would be "Christians say no need to be obedient to God's law," and "Can disregard God's commandments," which of course is completely unscriptural.

When James says that we've been born again and justified by faith, he doesn't think we're born again by our works. A person is justified by what he does and not by faith alone. James was replying to errorists who mistakenly thought that if they had faith, they didn't need to show their love by a life of faith (James 2:14-17) He countered this error by teaching that true, saving faith is alive, showing itself to be so by deeds of love (James 2:18,26). The author of James taught that justification is by faith alone and also that faith is never alone but shows itself to be alive by good deeds that express a believer's thanks to God for the free gift of salvation by faith in Jesus Christ. James actually stressed the necessity of good works as a consequence or "fruit" of faith.

The crux of the matter is that people can't earn their salvation by keeping a set of rules because Jesus removed the law as a requirement for achieving righteousness with God (Rom 10:4). This doesn't mean we can celebrate, discard the law and have no misgiving about sinning. In Christianity, faith and works go hand in hand. The essential truths of the gospel are simple enough for a youngster to understand them. It's quite clear that Jesus taught justification by faith alone. Sola fide is a central biblical distinctive, if not the single most important doctrine to get right. This is the doctrine that makes authentic Christianity distinct from every other religions, including yours.

For people like you who preach salvation by works, I can only conclude that they do not believe that sola fide is the only alternative to a damning system of works-based salvation.

[cheekopekman]

Do good but without heart also no point...like what the moslem said :" hospital visits are considered as doing good"

James said that if you see someone hungry and say to him, "God bless you" but you didn't give him food that's having faith without works lah!

[Lukongsimi]

Do good but without heart also no point...like what the moslem said :" hospital visits are considered as doing good"

Do it not looking for rewards 
Or blow trumpets to let others know.
Do not let your left hand knows what your right hand is doing.😄

[pinkpanther]

Do it not looking for rewards 
Or blow trumpets to let others know.
Do not let your left hand knows what your right hand is doing.😄

Matthew 6:1-13 NLT. “Watch out! Don't do your good deeds publicly, to be admired by others, for you will lose the reward from your Father in heaven. When you give to someone in need, don't do as the hypocrites do—blowing trumpets in the synagogues and streets to call attention to their acts of charity!

[pinkpanther]

Time to read the Hadith....I'm an advocate for Islam   

HEAT FEVER

Muhammad claimed that fevers were caused by the heat of hellfire:

“Narrated Aisha: the prophet said, ‘fever is from the heat of the Hell-fire so abate it with water.’” Vol. 4, Bk. 54, No. 485

And Muhammad also taught that,

“… The severity of heat is from the raging of the Hell-fire, and in very hot weather, pray (zuhr) when it becomes cooler.” Vol. 1, Bk. 10, No. 514

[Lukongsimi]

Time to read the Hadith....I'm an advocate for Islam   

HEAT FEVER

Muhammad claimed that fevers were caused by the heat of hellfire:

“Narrated Aisha: the prophet said, ‘fever is from the heat of the Hell-fire so abate it with water.’” Vol. 4, Bk. 54, No. 485

And Muhammad also taught that,

“… The severity of heat is from the raging of the Hell-fire, and in very hot weather, pray (zuhr) when it becomes cooler.” Vol. 1, Bk. 10, No. 514

Interesting 
Where is that hope?

[pinkpanther]

Interesting 
Where is that hope?

Yes where is Hope? We need his input to continue the discussion...otherwise, I believe the thread is nearing its end. Readers have likely gathered enough information to form their own opinions on whether Bible or quran presents a more compelling case as the word of God and which they find more trustworthy...

Comparing the lives of Jesus and Muhammad, it seems clear that they could not be worshipping the same God!