Scripture readings for Christmas

Yahweh = Allah...this is what the moslem bro claims...so there is no wrong if you pray to Yahweh  Big Grin
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(01-02-2025, 12:44 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Surah An-Nisa (4:157), which states:

"And [for] their saying, 'Indeed, we have killed the Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary.' And they did not kill him, nor did they crucify him; but [another] was made to resemble him to them. And indeed, those who differ over it are in doubt. They have no knowledge of it except the following of assumption. And they did not kill him, for certain."

Allah chose an innocent man to replace Jesus...I want to know what happen to this innocent man  Big Grin

No one died instead of Jesus.
You should check with your fictional writers
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(01-02-2025, 12:57 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Yes...let them show us in their players that they pray to Yahweh Big Grin since it is Allah in arabic
Christianity never make such claims...

Christian cannot as they made a human as their God
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Religion is about doing the same routine everyday
Worry about ownself go up or down.
Worry not rich pray for wealth etc.
Some are witch craft prayers



But forget how to be in relationship with God
Praise,worship God in spirit n in truth.
Got to know who is Jesus or He will deny u
Saying I don’t know u..Cham Liao.

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(01-02-2025, 12:59 PM)Ipinkpanther Wrote:  Yahweh = Allah...this is what the moslem bro claims...so there is no wrong if you pray to Yahweh  Big Grin

We pray to one true unseen God who created this universe.
Jews call him Yahweh 
Muslim call him Allah.
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(01-02-2025, 01:00 PM)Hope Wrote:  No one died instead of Jesus.
You should check with your fictional writers

If Jesus is not crucified, then what was he doing? Why Allah make someone look like Jesus? Are they in a market? Was Jesus caught by the Romans? What is the story? You know?

You just say oh no one dies without explaining the whole story
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(01-02-2025, 01:02 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  Religion is about doing the same routine everyday
Worry about ownself go up or down.
Worry not rich pray for wealth etc.
Some are witch craft prayers



But forget how to be in relationship with God
Praise,worship God in spirit n in truth.
Got to know who is Jesus or He will deny u
Saying I don’t know u..Cham Liao.

Christian pastor are involving voodoo 😂
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(01-02-2025, 01:00 PM)Hope Wrote:  No one died instead of Jesus.
You should check with your fictional writers

Scholars like Bart erhman agrees that the crucifixion of Jesus is the most reliable event in the Bible
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(01-02-2025, 01:04 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  If Jesus is not crucified, then what was he doing? Why Allah make someone look like Jesus? Are they in a market? Was Jesus caught by the Romans? What is the story? You know?

You just say oh no one dies without explaining the whole story

Quran say Jesus was not crucified as Christian claimed.

Instead Allah raised him to lower heaven.
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(01-02-2025, 01:04 PM)Hope Wrote:  We pray to one true unseen God who created this universe.
Jews call him Yahweh 
Muslim call him Allah.

But you said they are the same God...why are you not praying to Yahweh? Same God but different name...Don be scared, just direct your prayers to Yahweh later Big Grin Yahweh is one of the 99 names of Allah..correct?
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When your eyes n ears are closed
U will not see the truth which can set u free before u kaput.

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(01-02-2025, 01:05 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Scholars like Bart erhman agrees that the crucifixion of Jesus is the most reliable

Ask your self!

Why should Jesus waited until 33, If he was born to die.

If it was God’s arrangements Jesus to die, Why should Roman nailed him instead of Jewish Rabbis or his disciples?
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The Quran says that the God of Jews and Christians is Allah...
So if Allah is the same as Jehovah for Jews and Christians..then there is nothing wrong to callnyour God Jehovah or Yahweh...
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(01-02-2025, 01:09 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  When your eyes n ears are closed
U will not see the truth which can set u free before u kaput.

It is your heart which is blind.
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(01-02-2025, 01:11 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  The Quran says that the God of Jews and Christians is Allah...
So if Allah is the same as Jehovah for Jews and Christians..then there is nothing wrong to callnyour God Jehovah or Yahweh...

Allah says he is the god of all of his creatures.
We are under the nation (Ummah) of Muhammad,We will use his language Arabic.
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(01-02-2025, 01:11 PM)Hope Wrote:  Ask your self!

Why should Jesus waited until 33, If he was born to die.

If it was God’s arrangements Jesus to die, Why should Roman nailed him instead of Jewish Rabbis?

I don question God's arrangement....you say God cannot be human...then I can also say God will not deceive people into believing that someone was make to resemble Jesus on the cross ...God does not need to resort to using deception..it is not befitting of God to do so
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(01-02-2025, 01:07 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  But you said they are the same God...why are you not praying to Yahweh? Same God but different name...Don be scared, just direct your prayers to Yahweh later Big Grin Yahweh is one of the 99 names of Allah..correct?
We are the members of Nation( Ummah) of Muhammad. We follow only his language Arabic.

We don’t want shift from language to language like you did.
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(01-02-2025, 01:14 PM)Hope Wrote:  Allah says he is the god of all of his creatures.
We are under the nation (Ummah) of Muhammad,We will use his language Arabic.

God used to be called Jehovah and Yahweh and He has no problems with it...now the same God will abandon his earlier names and stick to Allah only? Thinking That is a fickle minded God isn'it?
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(01-02-2025, 01:15 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  I don question God's arrangement....you say God cannot be human...then I can also say God will not deceive people into believing that someone was make to resemble Jesus on the cross ...God does not need to resort to using deception..it is not befitting of God to do so

Quran never says Allah replaced someone on the cross.

Quran totally rejects Christian cruxifiction.
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(01-02-2025, 01:09 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  When your eyes n ears are closed
U will not see the truth which can set u free before u kaput.

Just yesterday, I showed you a verse in the NT where Jesus refuted the accusation made by the Pharisees accusing Jesus of claiming to be God. 

But you don't want to see it. You just closed your eyes and ears.
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(01-02-2025, 01:18 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  God used to be called Jehovah and Yahweh and He has no problems with it...now the same God will abandon his earlier names and stick to Allah only? Thinking That is a fickle minded God isn'it?

You have totally discarded Yahweh .Why are you concerned about Muslims using Arabic word instead?
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(01-02-2025, 01:18 PM)Hope Wrote:  We are the members of Nation( Ummah) of Muhammad. We follow only his language Arabic.

We don’t want shift from language to language like you did.

You followed his language?  You understand and speak Arabic? If you don know Arabic, how can you consider yourself to be a follower
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(01-02-2025, 01:21 PM)Hope Wrote:  You have totally discarded Yahweh .Why are you concerned about Muslims using Arabic word instead?

Yahweh, Jehovah,  Elohim and Father...we have no issue praying to these names...but you claim that these names are equal to Allah...then why are you not praying to any of these names?

We don claim that Allah is Yahweh...only you moslems do so! Big Grin
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Wolves
Better stay far from them
Danger !
Lol
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 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(01-02-2025, 01:05 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Scholars like Bart erhman agrees that the crucifixion of Jesus is the most reliable event in the Bible

(01-02-2025, 01:07 PM)Hope Wrote:  Quran say Jesus was not crucified as Christian claimed.

Instead Allah raised him to lower heaven.

Allah raised him to lower heaven? Where did the Quran says that? He is raised up unto Allah..meaning the highest level together with Allah...same status as Allah

Allah, may He be glorified and exalted, tells us that Jesus (upon whom be peace) was raised up to heaven just one time, in the aayah (interpretation of the meaning): “But Allah raised him up (with his body and soul) unto Himself…” 
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(01-02-2025, 01:04 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  If Jesus is not crucified, then what was he doing? Why Allah make someone look like Jesus? Are they in a market? Was Jesus caught by the Romans? What is the story? You know?

You just say oh no one dies without explaining the whole story
All the faked story they created lah

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(01-02-2025, 01:05 PM)Hope Wrote:  Christian pastor are involving voodoo 😂

U don’t have bomoh meh

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(01-02-2025, 01:46 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Allah raised him to lower heaven? Where did the Quran says that? He is raised up unto Allah..meaning the highest level together with Allah...same status as Allah

Allah, may He be glorified and exalted, tells us that Jesus (upon whom be peace) was raised up to heaven just one time, in the aayah (interpretation of the meaning): “But Allah raised him up (with his body and soul) unto Himself…” 

As per Islamic narrations, Jesus is In lower heaven.
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(01-02-2025, 01:27 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Yahweh, Jehovah,  Elohim and Father...we have no issue praying to these names...but you claim that these names are equal to Allah...then why are you not praying to any of these names?

We don claim that Allah is Yahweh...only you moslems do so! Big Grin

Allah is an Arabic word for unseen God who created this universe.
Even Christian in Middle East are using the word Allah.

For uniformity and Unity, Muslim around the world will be using the word Allah only.
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(01-02-2025, 01:24 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  You followed his language?  You understand and speak Arabic? If you don know Arabic, how can you consider yourself to be a follower
He is the last prophet for humanity. We are his followers.We will be using word Allah only.

We don’t change like you from Hebrew to Greek and to English and to other languages.

No need to know Arabic,once  we accept six articles of faith , we become his followers.
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