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(06-03-2025, 10:56 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote: Jesus answered: “Don’t you know me, Philip, even after I have been among you such a long time? Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, ‘Show us the Father’? Don’t you believe that I am in the Father, and that the Father is in me?
John 14/9..
As a Muslim, I have no trouble with what that statement and I can easily agree with it.
But you cannot agree with Jesus's statement about who is the true God.
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(06-03-2025, 10:56 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote: Jesus answered: “Don’t you know me, Philip, even after I have been among you such a long time? Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, ‘Show us the Father’? Don’t you believe that I am in the Father, and that the Father is in me?
John 14/9..
So, why are you quoting that verse to me in reply to my question on what Jesus said about who is the true God?
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(06-03-2025, 08:38 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote: He is not a Christian yet wants to teach us
His book is the Koran not Bible
He simply not happy that Jesus is God
Bible is not an Aramaic word ,the language of your God Jesus.
The word "Bible" comes from the Greek word ta biblia, which means "the books". It can refer to the Christian Bible, OR the sacred writings of OTHER RELIGIONS 😳
Quran is derived from the Arabic word 'qara', which usually means 'to read' or 'to recite. ' “So, the word Quran, it means 'the thing that is recited. Arabic word for “the book” is Al kitab.
Some modern scholars argues that while Paul was fluent in Koine Greek, the language he used to write his letters, his first language was probably Aramaic the language of Jesus.However Paul who was a Jew but was born and raised outside of Palestine wrote in Greek for his Greek-speaking audience in Palestine, Even though Jesus had claimed he came to guide Hebrew speaking Israelites only.
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(06-03-2025, 10:56 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote: Jesus answered: “Don’t you know me, Philip, even after I have been among you such a long time? Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, ‘Show us the Father’? Don’t you believe that I am in the Father, and that the Father is in me?
John 14/9..
Philip , one of the disciples of Jesus preached in Greece, Turkey and Syria
Later,
Turkey and Syria became Muslim majority countries.
Greece became a Greek Orthodox Christian majority country with Atheist 14% and Muslim 5%.
Do you still want to Quote about Philip to defend your beliefs?
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(06-03-2025, 10:53 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote: Jesus answered: “Don’t you know me, Philip, even after I have been among you such a long time? Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, ‘Show us the Father’? Don’t you believe that I am in the Father, and that the Father is in me?
John 14/9..
(06-03-2025, 10:54 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: Why do you hesitate to say you agree with Jesus?
His children, grandchildren and Family members will agree with Jesus.I don’t know what will happen to his urn then!
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Most moslems like to use John 17:3 but it is a futile attempt to claim contradictions and inconsistency...
Right after speaking of the “only true God” in John 17: 3 Jesus spoke of the glory that He had with God “before the world began” (verse 5; cf. John 1:1)
So use your brain and think if He is equal in status with His Father..
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And yet, according to the explanation of Q. 33:56 proposed by some of Ibn Anwar's references, Allah and the entire heavenly host have come together to praise/glorify/magnify Muhammad! Hence, not only does Allah pray and make invocations, he is also busy worshiping his prophet!
Allah still need to pray? Who is He praying to? Himself? Allah worship Muhammad?
Come on, pls clarify. You got to be joking;
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If Allah Is God, Why Does He Pray For Muhammad? Surah 33:43, 33:56, And 2:157?
You moslem pray for Muhammad and you pray to Allah ..now Allah prays for Muhammad and who does He prays to?? 😂😂
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(05-03-2025, 07:32 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: Malachi 1 verse 3
"but Esau I have hated, and I have turned his mountains into wasteland and left his inheritance to the desert jackals." (Malachi 1:3 NIV) Thank you for the Bible reference lah!
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“Give good news ˹O Prophet˺ to those who believe and do good that they will have Gardens under which rivers flow. Whenever provided with fruit, they will say, “This is what we were given before,” for they will be served fruit that looks similar ˹but tastes different˺. They will have pure spouses,and they will be there forever.”Quran 2:25
“We will remove whatever bitterness they had in their hearts.Rivers will flow under their feet. And they will say, “Praise be to Allah for guiding us to this. We would have never been guided if Allah had not guided us. The messengers of our Lord had certainly come with the truth.” It will be announced to them, “This is Paradise awarded to you for what you used to do.”Quran 7:43
the Gardens of Eternity, which they will enter along with the righteous among their parents, spouses, and descendants. And the angels will enter upon them from every gate, ˹saying,˺
Peace be upon you for your perseverance. How excellent is the ultimate abode!”Quran 13:23-24
“Those who say, “Allah is the Messiah, son of Mary,” have certainly fallen into disbelief. The Messiah ˹himself˺ said, “O Children of Israel! Worship Allah—my Lord and your Lord.” Whoever associates others with Allah ˹in worship˺ will surely be forbidden Paradise by Allah. Their home will be the Fire. And the wrongdoers will have no helpers.”Quran 5:72
“Surely those who receive our revelations with denial and arrogance, the gates of heaven will not be opened for them, nor will they enter Paradise until a camel passes through the eye of a needle. This is how We reward the wicked.”Quran 7:40
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(07-03-2025, 09:48 AM)Hope Wrote: “Give good news ˹O Prophet˺ to those who believe and do good that they will have Gardens under which rivers flow. Whenever provided with fruit, they will say, “This is what we were given before,” for they will be served fruit that looks similar ˹but tastes different˺. They will have pure spouses,and they will be there forever.”Quran 2:25
“We will remove whatever bitterness they had in their hearts.Rivers will flow under their feet. And they will say, “Praise be to Allah for guiding us to this. We would have never been guided if Allah had not guided us. The messengers of our Lord had certainly come with the truth.” It will be announced to them, “This is Paradise awarded to you for what you used to do.”Quran 7:43
the Gardens of Eternity, which they will enter along with the righteous among their parents, spouses, and descendants. And the angels will enter upon them from every gate, ˹saying,˺
Peace be upon you for your perseverance. How excellent is the ultimate abode!”Quran 13:23-24
“Those who say, “Allah is the Messiah, son of Mary,” have certainly fallen into disbelief. The Messiah ˹himself˺ said, “O Children of Israel! Worship Allah—my Lord and your Lord.” Whoever associates others with Allah ˹in worship˺ will surely be forbidden Paradise by Allah. Their home will be the Fire. And the wrongdoers will have no helpers.”Quran 5:72
“Surely those who receive our revelations with denial and arrogance, the gates of heaven will not be opened for them, nor will they enter Paradise until a camel passes through the eye of a needle. This is how We reward the wicked.”Quran 7:40
“Those who say, “Allah is the Messiah, son of Mary,” have certainly fallen into disbelief.
The Messiah ˹himself˺ said, “O Children of Israel! Worship Allah—my Lord and your Lord.” Whoever associates others with Allah ˹in worship˺ will surely be forbidden Paradise by Allah. Their home will be the Fire. And the wrongdoers will have no helpers.”Quran 5:72
Where is Jesus speaking? Who was there? Any witnesses? The Quran makes alot of bold claims that Jesus said that and this...The Bible gives you the full detailed..
How can I take the Quran's words for it?
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(07-03-2025, 09:27 AM)Hope Wrote: Why is Jesus called “ The Messiah “
https://youtu.be/E1_EZ76cI9I?si=M5V0ToDvcBdR15jR
Any credentials?
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(07-03-2025, 09:17 AM)Hope Wrote: Jesus Christ is the way to salvation
https://youtu.be/9taRcn7SJ88?si=F34m3rSO1NjTsEVR
She's a liar..same as your buddy!
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You don know where Jesus is? Who were there? What was he doing? The Quran only reported Jesus saying this and that and I don buy it lah.... The Bible is like a coloured TV while the Quran is like a black and white TV
Can the Quran be the supreme authority over the Bible...pls think again!
If I want specific details and info, I go for the Bible...if you want hearsay the Quran is great
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(07-03-2025, 07:04 AM)Hope Wrote: His children, grandchildren and Family members will agree with Jesus.I don’t know what will happen to his urn then!
N you inside the pit? Because u refuse to accept Christ as saviour !
No weapon that forms against me shall prospers.
Silly people will only ask repeated silly questions
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The two evil although fasting yet never repent !
No weapon that forms against me shall prospers.
Silly people will only ask repeated silly questions
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(07-03-2025, 07:58 AM)cheekopekman Wrote: "but Esau I have hated, and I have turned his mountains into wasteland and left his inheritance to the desert jackals." (Malachi 1:3 NIV) Thank you for the Bible reference lah!
There are other verses in the Bible which say God hates this or that. I've posted it already.
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(07-03-2025, 06:01 AM)Ali Imran Wrote: So, why are you quoting that verse to me in reply to my question on what Jesus said about who is the true God?
The true God is who we worship not the moslem
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(07-03-2025, 10:42 AM)Lukongsimi Wrote: The two evil although fasting yet never repent !
Why am I evil? I'm only asking you if you agree with Jesus.
Why are you hesitant to say you agree with Jesus about who the true God is?
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(07-03-2025, 10:45 AM)Ali Imran Wrote: Why am I evil? I'm only asking you if you agree with Jesus.
Why are you hesitant to say you agree with Jesus about who the true God is?
I already posted and u blind ?
No weapon that forms against me shall prospers.
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(07-03-2025, 10:43 AM)Lukongsimi Wrote: The true God is who we worship not the moslem
Of course you should not worship the Muslims. If you worship the Muslims, you're worshipping humans.
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(07-03-2025, 10:46 AM)Lukongsimi Wrote: I already posted and u blind ?
It just requires a yes or no.
Do you agree with Jesus when he said the true God is only 1 person? Yes or no?
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