Scripture readings for Christmas

(18-05-2025, 04:13 AM)Hope Wrote:  https://youtube.com/shorts/lA8_e-5yw0M?s...cBdK_ZCcfw



Christian scholar prefer one Gospel instead of four

The 4 gospels are 1 gospel...who says 1 gospel cannot contain 4 separate gospels ...
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(18-05-2025, 06:45 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Without the Torah and the Bible...you will be asking alot of questions from your Quran Big Grin...

We Muslims including prophet Muhammad have not seen the original Torah and Injeel given to Moses and Jesus.

Bible is not from Allah or Yahweh
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(18-05-2025, 06:54 AM)Hope Wrote:  I have quoted respective verse numbers. You may check online.

Quran 7:20-24

”Quran 39:53

Quran 3:89

Ok .but these are English translated, this is not from the Quran..

the Quran is considered to be the literal word of God, revealed in Arabic...
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(18-05-2025, 06:55 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:  The 4 gospels are 1 gospel...who says 1 gospel cannot contain 4 separate gospels ...

Are you better than that scholar?
Even that hate speech woman couldn’t answer.
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(18-05-2025, 06:41 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:  I don know, you tell me..moslems make all the claims..

Our claim only Injeel is from Allah, not 27 books in your NT
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(18-05-2025, 06:57 AM)Hope Wrote:  We Muslims including prophet Muhammad have not seen the original Torah and Injeel given to Moses and Jesus.

Bible is not from Allah or Yahweh

You mean Allah did not protect the Torah and the Injil? Allah just want to protect the Quran? 

How can He be unfair? You mean He cheated the Jews and Christians with false books?
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(17-05-2025, 09:47 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  You moslems like to play around with what Jesus said, but no moslems dare to play around with what the Father said to Jesus..

What did Father say to Jesus?
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(17-05-2025, 06:44 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  https://youtu.be/yZ2bn-g_Mps?si=vGwOvVfH6f-F-m8-

How to erase?

This prophecy is from Quran 61:9

He is the One Who has sent His Messenger with ˹true˺ guidance and the religion of truth, making it prevail over all others, even to the dismay of the polytheists.
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(18-05-2025, 07:01 AM)Hope Wrote:  What did Father say to Jesus?

The Father says that Jesus is also God and the creator.. there are many verses...but no moslems dare to nitpick from what the father says
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(18-05-2025, 07:03 AM)Hope Wrote:  How to erase?

This prophecy is from Quran 61:9

He is the One Who has sent His Messenger with ˹true˺ guidance and the religion of truth, making it prevail over all others, even to the dismay of the polytheists.

If it is English...it is not from the Quran Big Grin
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(17-05-2025, 05:18 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  The Mahdi brings an End to Islam

https://m.youtube.com/shorts/dEfJlPi0g_g

Do you know the bio data of this Mahdi?He is a film maker in holy wood.
There have been many Mahdi during last three hundred years .
As per Islamic prophecy, Jesus should decend with in three to seven after emerge of Mahdi.

Mahdi will fight along side Jesus. 

Mahdi will never claim he is the Mahdi.

Desperate Christian and some other western organisations are promoting this guy😂

Mahdi will be in Arabia not in America 👍
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(18-05-2025, 07:00 AM)Hope Wrote:  Our claim only Injeel is from Allah, not 27 books in your NT

Can you show me from the Quran and Hadiths that Allah says this? Your claims are echo by Humans not Allah
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(18-05-2025, 07:09 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:  If it is English...it is not from the Quran Big Grin

Is it is the same with Bible?

Jesus taught in Aramaic / Hebrew
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(18-05-2025, 07:11 AM)Hope Wrote:  Is it is the same with Bible?

Jesus taught in Aramaic / Hebrew

But Jesus never say we must understand the Bible in Hebrew/greek Big Grin
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(18-05-2025, 07:01 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:  You mean Allah did not protect the Torah and the Injil? Allah just want to protect the Quran? 

How can He be unfair? You mean He cheated the Jews and Christians with false books?

Allah has sent dozens of prophets before Prophets Muhammad.

Scripture given to those prophets were not meant for the whole humanity or forever.It is natural those books to lose the original message.
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(18-05-2025, 07:09 AM)Hope Wrote:  Do you know the bio data of this Mahdi?He is a film maker in holy wood.
There have been many Mahdi during last three hundred years .
As per Islamic prophecy, Jesus should decend with in three to seven after emerge of Mahdi.

Mahdi will fight along side Jesus. 

Mahdi will never claim he is the Mahdi.

Desperate Christian and some other western organisations are promoting this guy😂

Mahdi will be in Arabia not in America 👍

This Mahdi is Abdullah...he said his name is mentioned in Muhammad's book..He is a moslem
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(17-05-2025, 05:03 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Do you reject Yahweh?

We believe it is the same God.
We don’t accept trinity or having offspring.

Yahweh is in Hebrew.
Allah is in Arabic.
Do you know the language of Moses and word for his God?

https://youtube.com/shorts/JyRQkFcQfaE?s...Zwr9qf2KxH
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(18-05-2025, 07:15 AM)Hope Wrote:  Allah has sent dozens of prophets before Prophets Muhammad.

Scripture given to those prophets were not meant for the whole humanity or forever.It is natural those books to lose the original message.

Without pass scriptures, you cannot understand your Quran Big Grin. Like Adam eating apples, Jesus Hebrew name, his birthplace, his disciples names..

Allah recognize the Torah and the Bible...
In your article of faith...Allah asks you to believe in these books...can Allah ask you to believe in a lost book that you have not seen or a corrupted book that He failed to protect?
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(18-05-2025, 07:20 AM)Hope Wrote:  We believe it is the same God.
We don’t accept trinity or having offspring.

Yahweh is in Hebrew.
Allah is in Arabic.
Do you know the language of Moses and word for his God?

https://youtube.com/shorts/JyRQkFcQfaE?s...Zwr9qf2KxH

You believe in the same God of Moses?
God introduces himself by name, Yahweh.

why did god kill the amalekites, the babies and the donkey if this is your God Big Grin
Is this from a merciful God?
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(18-05-2025, 07:16 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:  This Mahdi is Abdullah...he said his name is mentioned in Muhammad's book..He is a moslem

My surname also Abdullah!😜
There are millions of Muhammad bin Abdullah

Mahdi will take refuge in Mecca grand mosque, before he is recognised and accepted by Islamic scholars .
This Mahdi has taken refuge in Hollywood 😳

One of the lunatics Mahdi took people for hostage in Mecca mosque .

https://youtu.be/FWYHJLh94Zk?si=X3UamUR3nYP4Rn_N
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(18-05-2025, 07:30 AM)Hope Wrote:  My surname also Abdullah!😜
There are millions of Muhammad bin Abdullah

Mahdi will take refuge in Mecca grand mosque, before he is recognised and accepted by Islamic scholars .
This Mahdi has taken refuge in Hollywood 😳

One of the lunatics Mahdi took people for hostage in Mecca mosque .

https://youtu.be/FWYHJLh94Zk?si=X3UamUR3nYP4Rn_N

But He is a moslem making such a claim...he is the founder of Ahmadi Religion of Peace and Light...why do you reject him like how we rejected Muhammad...
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(18-05-2025, 07:35 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:  But He is a moslem making such a claim...he is the founder of Ahmadi Religion of Peace and Light...why do you reject him like how we rejected Muhammad...

Mahdi is not a Messenger,Prophet or spiritual figure.We have nothing to learn from him 

He can not add or subtract anything from Islam.
 

We don’t want to waste time behind Bogus and original Mahdi.

Mahdi will be known/ active only for 3 to 7 years.Jesus will decend during these years.Jesus will be living more than 30 years.
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(18-05-2025, 07:25 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:  You believe in the same God of Moses?
God introduces himself by name, Yahweh.

why did god kill the amalekites, the babies and the donkey if this is your God Big Grin
Is this from a merciful God?

Did you watch the video?No one knows which language Moses spoke.
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(18-05-2025, 07:21 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Without pass scriptures, you cannot understand your Quran Big Grin. Like Adam eating apples, Jesus Hebrew name, his birthplace, his disciples names..

Allah recognize the Torah and the Bible...
In your article of faith...Allah asks you to believe in these books...can Allah ask you to believe in a lost book that you have not seen or a corrupted book that He failed to protect?

Allah didn’t ask us to believe in the books you are carrying.
Allah wants us to believe there were Messengers, prophets and books before the Quran.
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(18-05-2025, 08:07 AM)Hope Wrote:  Did you watch the video?No one knows which language Moses spoke.

Moses could speak three languages at least Egyptian, Hebrew, and medianite...

Egyptian for sure ..if not like he talks with the pharoah
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(18-05-2025, 07:06 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:  The Father says that Jesus is also God and the creator.. there are many verses...but no moslems dare to nitpick from what the father says

Where? Which verse?
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(18-05-2025, 08:10 AM)Hope Wrote:  Allah didn’t ask us to believe in the books you are carrying.
Allah wants us to believe there were Messengers, prophets and books before the Quran.

A key part of the Articles of Faith, particularly within Islam, involves belief in previous scriptures like the Torah and the Bible. Muslims believe God revealed holy books to various prophets, including the Torah to Moses, the Psalms to David, and the Gospel to Jesus. 

If you don believe in the Bible ..why so many moslems come to the Bible to justify the coming of Muhammad including your friend? Is he really a moslem? Big Grin
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(18-05-2025, 08:12 AM)Hope Wrote:  Where? Which verse?

Hebrews1:8-12

 But about the Son he says,

“Your throne, O God, will last for ever and ever;
    a scepter of justice will be the scepter of your kingdom.
9 You have loved righteousness and hated wickedness;
    therefore God, your God, has set you above your companions
    by anointing you with the oil of joy.”[a]

10 He also says,

“In the beginning, Lord, you laid the foundations of the earth,
    and the heavens are the work of your hands.
11 They will perish, but you remain;
    they will all wear out like a garment.
12 You will roll them up like a robe;
    like a garment they will be changed.
But you remain the same,
    and your years will never end
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(18-05-2025, 08:12 AM)Hope Wrote:  Where? Which verse?

The term "God" is used loosely in the Bible. Satan is called God. 

The Father also said the judges are Gods.
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Paul also said in Hebrews 1 that Jesus is higher than the angels. This is another point that we can use to prove that Paul doesn't believe Jesus is God. If Jesus is God, then surely God is higher than the angels, so there is no need to say Jesus is higher than the angels.

The other point I've shown where Paul doesn't believe Jesus is God is in 1 Tim 6:16, where Paul said God cannot be seen and God cannot die. Paul already knew Jesus was seen and he believed Jesus died so what he said in 1 Tim 6:16 proves Paul doesn't believe Jesus is God.
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