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(22-05-2025, 04:33 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  All destroyed lah...

Not really. Once a place has been established as a temple, people would always use it to worship God, even when the structure is no longer there. 

When the Caliph Umar conquered Jerusalem, he was shocked that the Christians were using it as a dumping ground. The first thing he did was to clean the temple with his bare hands.
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(22-05-2025, 04:26 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  I already told you to use your intellect to determine the truth. Who told you to use the jinn?

No need to use any intellect for your case lah when paradise and 72 virgins are just a formality.. Big Grin 
Hell is just temporary
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(22-05-2025, 04:29 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  seventy-two virgins

According to these traditions, Muslim men that die waging jihad against the enemies of Islam will be rewarded by Allah in heaven (jannah) as martyrs (shuhada) and receive seventy-two virgins to enjoy in blissful ecstasy.

I told you that once. The virgins, known as "Hoor", are not for ordinary Muslims like me.
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(22-05-2025, 04:37 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  No need to use any intellect for your case lah when paradise and 72 virgins are just a formality.. Big Grin 
Hell is just temporary

Why do you like to mock? 

Throughout my time here arguing, I only appeal to your intellect. 

The untold many questions I put forth here were designed to invoke the thinking process.
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(22-05-2025, 04:39 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Why do you like to mock? 

Throughout my time here arguing, I only appeal to your intellect. 

The untold many questions I put forth here were designed to invoke the thinking process.

Go easy my friend .I wasn't mocking you..I also put forth my thoughts to invoke your thinking process.. Big Grin
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How much is a plate of nasi lemak in Malang?
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Can Muslims eat pork if starving?

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In Islam, pork is generally forbidden (haram). However, there's an exception: if a Muslim is facing starvation and there's no other food available, it's permissible to eat pork just enough to survive. This is based on the Islamic principle that necessity overrides prohibition. 

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(22-05-2025, 04:44 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  How much is a plate of nasi lemak in Malang?

Guess 50 cents.

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(22-05-2025, 04:45 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  Can Muslims eat pork if starving?

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In Islam, pork is generally forbidden (haram). However, there's an exception: if a Muslim is facing starvation and there's no other food available, it's permissible to eat pork just enough to survive. This is based on the Islamic principle that necessity overrides prohibition. 

Oh..pork is allowed only if the moslem is hungry..
So it is not forbidden... Can makan
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(22-05-2025, 04:46 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  Guess 50 cents.

70 cents at most with egg and chicken wing Big Grin
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(22-05-2025, 04:44 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  How much is a plate of nasi lemak in Malang?

Cheapest about 50cents. Can go as expensive as 2 dollars.

Grab car can be like $1.50, for a distance that would cost $10 in Singapore.

A full meal, nasi padang about $3.

I stay in an elite area, with security and all, about $200 a month rental.
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(22-05-2025, 04:43 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Go easy my friend .I wasn't mocking you..I also put forth my thoughts to invoke your thinking process.. Big Grin

There you go, mocking me.

But it's okay. By now you should know that I don't care.
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(22-05-2025, 04:48 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Oh..pork is allowed only if the moslem is hungry..
So it is not forbidden... Can makan

Pork is forbidden but preserving life overrules that law. Similar to Sabbath, where preserving life overrules that law.
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(22-05-2025, 04:43 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Go easy my friend .I wasn't mocking you..I also put forth my thoughts to invoke your thinking process.. Big Grin

He can mock us but not him.

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(22-05-2025, 04:54 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  He can mock us but not him.

Rotfl Clapping well said..sometimes he win sometimes we win...
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(22-05-2025, 04:50 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Cheapest about 50cents. Can go as expensive as 2 dollars.

Grab car can be like $1.50, for a distance that would cost $10 in Singapore.

A full meal, nasi padang about $3.

I stay in an elite area, with security and all, about $200 a month rental.

That is paradise...there is no need for the real paradise Big Grin is English widely spoken or taught in the schools?
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(22-05-2025, 04:57 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  That is paradise...there is no need for the real paradise Big Grin is English widely spoken or taught in the schools?

English is not widely spoken. But that is not a problem for me. Schools teach English but still long way to go.

This country has lots of problems, especially with corruption. They have a saying, "bayar polisi", meaning pay the police. If you are rich here, you are above the law. You can speed as fast as you like, just bayar polisi.
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(22-05-2025, 04:45 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  Can Muslims eat pork if starving?

AI Overview

In Islam, pork is generally forbidden (haram). However, there's an exception: if a Muslim is facing starvation and there's no other food available, it's permissible to eat pork just enough to survive. This is based on the Islamic principle that necessity overrides prohibition. 

You haven't replaced your toner?
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(22-05-2025, 04:57 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  That is paradise...there is no need for the real paradise Big Grin is English widely spoken or taught in the schools?

One thing no have 72 v lol

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(22-05-2025, 05:03 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  One thing no have 72 v lol

What will you be doing in your paradise? Eat and sing, according to the Bible. So there are going to be pleasure of the flesh in the Christian paradise coz eating is a pleasure of the flesh.
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https://youtu.be/W1VuLCAWmZk?si=CG-_nq0Tjgj-ICOC

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(22-05-2025, 12:55 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  If your body felt nice in that room, does that mean it is the holy spirit? What if you're having a bug on that day and your body doesn't feel nice? Or what if the air in the room has extra oxygen that makes you feel nice? Does all that determine the truth?

The answer is no. That is not how you determine the truth.

The air felt cool but stale.. but I could sense wind swirling around me while I stood with my eyes closed, and a few Christians were praying for me.

 When I opened my eyes, I saw that some non-believers were trembling uncontrollably, while others were sweating profusely....

Pls explain that for me
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(22-05-2025, 05:03 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  One thing no have 72 v lol

1 or 2 is enough lah...72 is a test of endurance lah..might have to swallow the whole bottle of viagra
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(22-05-2025, 06:21 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  https://youtu.be/W1VuLCAWmZk?si=CG-_nq0Tjgj-ICOC

He explained well on why animal sacrifices were needed
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(22-05-2025, 05:01 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  English is not widely spoken. But that is not a problem for me. Schools teach English but still long way to go.

This country has lots of problems, especially with corruption. They have a saying, "bayar polisi", meaning pay the police. If you are rich here, you are above the law. You can speed as fast as you like, just bayar polisi.

Just pay the jizya and you are forgiven Big Grin
With the huge population, man with 2-4 wives must be a common sight
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(22-05-2025, 07:23 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Just pay the jizya and you are forgiven Big Grin
With the huge population, man with 2-4 wives must be a common sight

Yes, its quite common.
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(22-05-2025, 07:13 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  The air felt cool but stale.. but I could sense wind swirling around me while I stood with my eyes closed, and a few Christians were praying for me.

 When I opened my eyes, I saw that some non-believers were trembling uncontrollably, while others were sweating profusely....

Pls explain that for me

No, I'm not even gonna attempt to explain it. Neither can I explain the Hindus going into a trance or even the traditional javanese here who are still into such practices, which we call "kuda kepang".

As I've said, they all summon some form of spirit and yours is no difference, except you call it holy spirit.
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(22-05-2025, 07:31 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  No, I'm not even gonna attempt to explain it. Neither can I explain the Hindus going into a trance or even the traditional javanese here who are still into such practices, which we call "kuda kepang".

As I've said, they all summon some form of spirit and yours is no difference, except you call it holy spirit.

I'm only telling you the physical aspect of my experiences....there are plenty more instances where the Holy Spirit empowered my life after I get baptised..

Since you are a disbeliever..there is no need for more stories telling. Maybe just one day the Lord will touch your heart just like how He transformed the lives of many moslems who believe in Him
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(22-05-2025, 07:16 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  1 or 2 is enough lah...72 is a test of endurance lah..might have to swallow the whole bottle of viagra
No flesh n blood can enter heaven 
Means not a physical body  like now 
If in
heaven can do sex the fallen angels won’t have to come down to earth for women n bore giants

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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https://youtube.com/shorts/z99gRcoKx3o?s...LkDXZY54Z1
Can The mocker of Jesus get into paradise ?

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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