[Ali Imran]

No flesh n blood can enter heaven 
Means not a physical body  like now 
If in
heaven can do sex the fallen angels won’t have to come down to earth for women n bore giants

So how are you gonna enjoy food in heaven if you don't have a physical body?

[Lukongsimi]

https://youtu.be/G3Yubmtflok?si=rYr5K9pZx0-8jHTT

[Lukongsimi]

When u died your physical body is still in the grave
When u dream u still can eat food

[Ali Imran]

I'm only telling you the physical aspect of my experiences....there are plenty more instances where the Holy Spirit empowered my life after I get baptised..

Since you are a disbeliever..there is no need for more stories telling. Maybe just one day the Lord will touch your heart just like how He transformed the lives of many moslems who believe in Him

Is the way shown or taught by Jesus the only way to God?

[Ali Imran]

When u died your physical body is still in the grave

Not only in the grave, the body will rot and after a while, it will be gone, eaten by worms.

But if God can give us a body in this world, can God give us an even better body in heaven?

And what about those who go to hell and will be burned by fire? How will that work if they don't have a body?

[Lukongsimi]

Jesus spoke of hell more than anyone else in the Bible. He referred to it as a place of “outer darkness” where “there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth” (Matt. 8:12). In other words, all the joys that we associate with light will be withdrawn, and all the fears that we associate with darkness will be multiplied.

[pinkpanther]

Jesus spoke of hell more than anyone else in the Bible. He referred to it as a place of “outer darkness” where “there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth” (Matt. 8:12). In other words, all the joys that we associate with light will be withdrawn, and all the fears that we associate with darkness will be multiplied.

There’s an old joke about a preacher who’s preaching a sermon on judgment and hellfire, and he’s really getting into his subject, waving his arms and shouting and ranting about the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone, and the anguish and the torment that the wicked will feel for all eternity, ”and there will be wailing and gnashing of teeth!”

An old lady shouts, “Preacher, what if we ain’t got any teeth?”

The preacher yells back, “TEETH WILL BE PROVIDED!”

I assume that if God is powerful and determined enough to create a Hell to torture people for eternity, he’s powerful enough to create ways for them to feel agonizing pain for eternity.

[pinkpanther]

Is the way shown or taught by Jesus the only way to God?

Jesus said, shown and taught the only way to the Father is through Him.. Muhammad also make the same claim

[Ali Imran]

Jesus spoke of hell more than anyone else in the Bible. He referred to it as a place of “outer darkness” where “there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth” (Matt. 8:12). In other words, all the joys that we associate with light will be withdrawn, and all the fears that we associate with darkness will be multiplied.

So the people in hell will have a body, with eyes that will weep and teeth that will gnash.

[Ali Imran]

Jesus said, shown and taught the only way to the Father is through Him.. Muhammad also make the same claim

The sad part is, we do not know with certainty the hows and whats, because we no longer have the words of Jesus for us to be certain that we are following the way he has shown and taught. Everybody has their own opinion of the way shown or taught by Jesus.

[pinkpanther]

The sad part is, we do not know with certainty the hows and whats, because we no longer have the words of Jesus for us to be certain that we are following the way he has shown and taught. Everybody has their own opinion of the way shown or taught by Jesus.

What do you mean we no longer have His words to be certain of the way? His words and teachings can be found in the NT....I know where this is heading...PAUL!

[Lukongsimi]

When people mentioned they heard ghost weeping in a haunted house u think the ghost has a physical body?

[pinkpanther]

We have a defensive strategist available to assist you with your questions regarding Paul. However, I hope you won't resort to pleading for special treatment akin to that of a 7-year-old or complain about feeling fatigued due to Sim's dogmatic approach

[pinkpanther]

When people mentioned they heard ghost weeping in a haunted house u think the ghost has a physical body?

I have never encountered a ghost in real life. Has anyone here ever experienced one?

[Ali Imran]

What do you mean we no longer have His words to be certain of the way? His words and teachings can be found in the NT....I know where this is heading...PAUL!

The NT is unreliable because of embellishments and forgeries. The authors are unknown. The actual words of Jesus weren't recorded. 

Do you believe Jesus would call us dogs? I don't. But it is in the NT.

[Lukongsimi]

I have never encountered a ghost in real life. Has anyone here ever experienced one?

Should ask old man 
Watch Titok the Malay agent usually talks about his Malay buyers encountered  ghosts in the flat 

[Ali Imran]

We have a defensive strategist available to assist you with your questions regarding Paul. However, I hope you won't resort to pleading for special treatment akin to that of a 7-year-old or complain about feeling fatigued due to Sim's dogmatic approach

Even SimTan must accept that Paul nullified almost all that Jesus taught and almost all the teachings of the previous prophets.

Let me ask you that question. Do you think Paul knew he was writing God's words when he was arguing against Peter or James in his letters? I ask that because Christians say the NT is God's word, which includes the letters Paul wrote. So, do you think Paul knew he was writing God's word?

[Ali Imran]

I'm going to sleep.

Good night Christians.

[pinkpanther]

The NT is unreliable because of embellishments and forgeries. The authors are unknown. The actual words of Jesus weren't recorded. 

Do you believe Jesus would call us dogs? I don't. But it is in the NT.

I have a list of scholars and historians agreeing to the reliability of the NT .Early Church Fathers were also in agreement over who wrote the Gospels while the Book of Hebrews was not in agreement. several early Gospel manuscripts also show how all were in agreement over who wrote the Gospels...

[Lukongsimi]

The concept of a "new body" or a "glorified body" in the Bible refers to the resurrected body that believers will receive in heaven. This body will be incorruptible, immortal, and powerful, unlike our current earthly bodies. It will be transformed to be like Christ's glorious body. 

[Ali Imran]

I have a list of scholars and historians agreeing to the reliability of the NT .Early Church Fathers were also in agreement over who wrote the Gospels while the Book of Hebrews was not in agreement. several early Gospel manuscripts also show how all were in agreement over who wrote the Gospels...

The top scholars of the NT are Bruce Metzger and Bart Ehrman. Both said the NT has been corrupted. Both said the authors are unknown.

And Christians are not following the teachings of Jesus.

[pinkpanther]

The top scholars of the NT are Bruce Metzger and Bart Ehrman. Both said the NT has been corrupted. Both said the authors are unknown.

And Christians are not following the teachings of Jesus.

Bruce Metzger, a renowned biblical scholar and textual critic, indeed affirmed the reliability of the New Testament.. How can he say that the NT is corrupted and yet affirmed its reliability...

If you go to Bart erhman, Islam will be proven wrong because he has no doubts that Jesus was crucified..

Irenaeus of Lyons, an early Church Father from the 2nd century, is one of the earliest sources to affirm
the authorship 

Mark wrote the Gospel of Mark
Luke wrote the Gospel of Luke
John wrote the Gospel of John
Matthew wrote the Gospel of Matthew

[Ali Imran]

Bruce Metzger, a renowned biblical scholar and textual critic, indeed affirmed the reliability of the New Testament.. How can he say that the NT is corrupted and yet affirmed its reliability...

Bruce Metzger wrote a famous book, where he detailed the corruption of the NT. He said something about its restoration but so far, no university has been able to restore the NT.

[Ali Imran]

If you go to Bart erhman, Islam will be proven wrong because he has no doubts that Jesus was crucified..

Actually, Bart Ehrman confirms the Quran. Take a look at the verse again, 4:157, where it says the people thought Jesus was crucified. So, Bart Ehrman thinking that Jesus was crucified proves the Quran is accurate.

[pinkpanther]

If you say that the NT is unreliable, I will also appeal to your intellect that the Quran is not perfectly preserved...am I suppose to trust your faith or their works faith vs works ..you will take works whole day tiok boh
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Many scholars, both Muslim and non-Muslim, have argued that the Quran has not been perfectly preserved. Some of these scholars include:

1. **John Wansbrough** – A biblical scholar who suggested that the Quran developed over a longer period and that its current form was finalized later than traditionally believed, implying possible variations in early texts.

2. **Patricia Crone and Michael Cook** – Scholars associated with the revisionist school of Islamic studies, who have questioned the traditional account of the Quran’s compilation and suggest that the text may have undergone changes or standardization processes after its initial revelation.

3. **Theodore Paynter** – A scholar who discussed textual variations and the history of the Quran's compilation, indicating that the manuscript evidence shows some differences in early versions.

4. **Angelika Neuwirth** – While she recognizes the Quran’s preservation, she also discusses the complex history of its textual transmission and the potential for variations in early manuscripts.

[pinkpanther]

Actually, Bart Ehrman confirms the Quran. Take a look at the verse again, 4:157, where it says the people thought Jesus was crucified. So, Bart Ehrman thinking that Jesus was crucified proves the Quran is accurate.

Bart Erhman believes that Jesus was crucified but the Quran does not think so

The Quranic verse 4:157 states, "They did not kill him, nor did they crucify him; but it appeared so to them," indicating that Jesus was not physically crucified.

[Ali Imran]

If you say that the NT is unreliable, I will also appeal to your intellect that the Quran is not perfectly preserved...am I suppose to trust your faith or their works faith vs works ..you will take works whole day tiok boh
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Many scholars, both Muslim and non-Muslim, have argued that the Quran has not been perfectly preserved. Some of these scholars include:

1. **John Wansbrough** – A biblical scholar who suggested that the Quran developed over a longer period and that its current form was finalized later than traditionally believed, implying possible variations in early texts.

2. **Patricia Crone and Michael Cook** – Scholars associated with the revisionist school of Islamic studies, who have questioned the traditional account of the Quran’s compilation and suggest that the text may have undergone changes or standardization processes after its initial revelation.

3. **Theodore Paynter** – A scholar who discussed textual variations and the history of the Quran's compilation, indicating that the manuscript evidence shows some differences in early versions.

4. **Angelika Neuwirth** – While she recognizes the Quran’s preservation, she also discusses the complex history of its textual transmission and the potential for variations in early manuscripts.

The Quran is perfectly preserved and the primary method of preservation is memorization, not just by 1 or 2 hafiz, but hundreds from the very beginning. Today, there are probably a few hundred thousands of Muslim living who are Hafiz.

[Ali Imran]

Bart Erhman believes that Jesus was crucified but the Quran does not think so

The Quranic verse 4:157 states, "They did not kill him, nor did they crucify him; but it appeared so to them," indicating that Jesus was not physically crucified.

That is God telling us that Jesus wasn't crucified. As for Bart Ehrman, the Quran did say that people thought he was crucified, and that includes Bart Ehrman who thinks that Jesus was crucified.

Remember, Bart Ehrman wasn't there. He is relying on conjectures when he says he believes Bart Ehrman was crucified. He doesn't have a single proof except for the NT and he already said the NT is historically unreliable.

[pinkpanther]

The Quran is perfectly preserved and the primary method of preservation is memorization, not just by 1 or 2 hafiz, but hundreds from the very beginning. Today, there are probably a few hundred thousands of Muslim living who are Hafiz.

Ok..I know that you are just parroting what your Imams taught you ..this has been ingrained in your mind to recite to others who may not share your beliefs.

Why don you trust the works of others

Every moslems say the same thing that the Quran is well preserved and it is rather suspicious ...are you becoming a bot?

[Ali Imran]

Ok..I know that you are just parroting what your Imams taught you ..this has been ingrained in your mind to recite to others who may not share your beliefs.

Why don you trust the works of others

No, I am not parroting. I am a Muslim who studies the Quran. Every Ramadan, the mosques in Singapore invite Hafiz from all over the world to be imams and we recite the Quran cover to cover. If they make a single mistake, the other Hafiz will know and he will be corrected. 

We also have Quran reading competition where reciters (Qari) from all over the world will showcase their voices in recitation. This shows we all read the same Quran all over the world.

If the Quran is not preserved, it will be like the Bible, where you will have differences all over the world. But that's not the case with the Quran. The entire Muslim world recite the same Quran.