[Ali Imran]

The truth is you added Muhammad in your declaration to God...In your five daily prayers, you mention Prophet Muhammad and God an equal number of times....who is important? Our distinction is very clear

In my prayers to God..only God is mentioned..before I close my prayer..I will pray for other matters

Yes, we declare to God that we believe Muhammad صلي الله عليه وسلم is the messenger He sent.

And who told you we mention our Prophet equal number of times?

[pinkpanther]

I'm asking you if you know where the tradition came from?

The ritual involves pilgrims throwing pebbles at three walls or pillars, called Jamarat, which represent the devil (Shaitan). 

Is this idolatry?

[Ali Imran]

The ritual involves pilgrims throwing pebbles at three walls or pillars, called Jamarat, which represent the devil (Shaitan). 

Is this idolatry?

So you don't know where the tradition came from?

[pinkpanther]

Yes, we declare to God that we believe Muhammad صلي الله عليه وسلم is the messenger He sent.

And who told you we mention our Prophet equal number of times?

 
Why believe and not confirm?

[pinkpanther]

So you don't know where the tradition came from?

You tell me ..I don throw stones on wall.. you might hít someone else if you are not accurate

[Ali Imran]

 
Why believe and not confirm?

Because it is a statement of faith.

[Ali Imran]

You tell me ..I don throw stones on wall.. you might hít someone else if you are not accurate

If the tradition came from ancient Roman practice, then you can say it is pagan.

If you don't know, you should not make comments as though you know.

[pinkpanther]

If the tradition came from ancient Roman practice, then you can say it is pagan.

If you don't know, you should not make comments as though you know.

What nonsense you sprouting..go check for the word

Pagan.

.a person who has no religious beliefs: a person who belongs to a modern religion that includes beliefs and activities that are not from any of the main religions of the world, for example the worship of nature: They are trying to stop some pagans from doing a nature ceremony

[pinkpanther]

Your desperation to get one over me is appalling 

[Ali Imran]

What nonsense you sprouting..go check for the word

Pagan.

.a person who has no religious beliefs: a person who belongs to a modern religion that includes beliefs and activities that are not from any of the main religions of the world, for example the worship of nature: They are trying to stop some pagans from doing a nature ceremony

Oh sorry.. you said idolatry.

So, is stoning the devil idolatry?

[Ali Imran]

Your desperation to get one over me is appalling 

If the tradition started from idolatry, then you can say it is idolatry.

So, you need to know where the tradition came from.

[pinkpanther]

If the tradition started from idolatry, then you can say it is idolatry.

So, you need to know where the tradition came from.

three walls or pillars, called Jamarat, which represent the devil (Shaitan). 
 
The wall is the idol of worship ..you cannot assume that there are no one worshipping the walls...

[pinkpanther]

There is nothing in the Father's house that represent the devil my friend

[Ali Imran]

three walls or pillars, called Jamarat, which represent the devil (Shaitan). 
 
The wall is the idol of worship ..you cannot assume that there are no one worshipping the walls...

When we throw stones at it, is that worship?

[Ali Imran]

There is nothing in the Father's house that represent the devil my friend

What Father's house you're talking about?

The Kaaba is God's house. The stoning of the devil is far away from the Kaaba or the mosque where the Kaaba is located.

[pinkpanther]

When we throw stones at it, is that worship?

You are assuming that everyone throw stones...have you seen those who throw lollipops and coins?

[Ali Imran]

You are assuming that everyone throw stones...have you seen those who throw lollipops and coins?

Are we done on this topic?

[pinkpanther]

What Father's house you're talking about?

The Kaaba is God's house. The stoning of the devil is far away from the Kaaba or the mosque where the Kaaba is located.

Violence or throwing stones is not the answer to resolving problems. 

Instead, you should pray for the devil to abandon evil and turn towards God.

[pinkpanther]

Are we done on this topic?

 I can feel a deep sense of frustration from you

[Ali Imran]

 I can feel a deep sense of frustration from you

No, I'm just ignoring your silly comments

[Ali Imran]

My breakfast this morning cost exactly $1

It's chicken porridge and very nice.

[pinkpanther]

No, I'm just ignoring your silly comments

No one is allow to enter the place where they buried Muhammad tio boh? So have you seen his tomb?

[pinkpanther]

My breakfast this morning cost exactly $1

It's chicken porridge and very nice.

Malang no inflation on the prices of food?

[Ali Imran]

No one is allow to enter the place where they buried Muhammad tio boh? So have you seen his tomb?

Yes, I have.

[Ali Imran]

Malang no inflation on the prices of food?

I'm not sure. All I know is that it is cheap here.

I've taken a ride in Grab, which cost $1.60

[Ali Imran]

Malang no inflation on the prices of food?

So, did you do some research on Binitarianism?

[pinkpanther]

So, did you do some research on Binitarianism?

Not interested in Binitarianism lah...what makes Acts 2 particularly interesting is that the individuals who convert seem to align more closely with Unitarian or Binitarian beliefs rather than Trinitarian ones. Of course, I could be mistaken.

[Ali Imran]

Not interested in Binitarianism lah...what makes Acts 2 particularly interesting is that the individuals who convert seem to align more closely with Unitarian or Binitarian beliefs rather than Trinitarian ones. Of course, I could be mistaken.

Peter made no mention of Jesus dying for their sins also and yet they were saved. 

There was another man who we know was saved and he didn't have to believe Jesus died for his sins. That man is Zacchaeus, the tax collector.

[Lukongsimi]

Do Christians touch and kiss the crucifix? Yes.

Is that the level that of your intellect?

[Lukongsimi]

They have their own crucifix so they don't need to stand in line to touch or kiss their own crucifix.

Is that the level of your intellect?