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(03-06-2025, 05:57 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  I'm a nice guy, I will give you the benefit of doubt.
The figures may not be precise, but he did give an interview concerning Muslims choosing to leave Islam.

I don't deny that. We know there are Muslims who left the faith.

If you say 100,000 in a year, I can accept that number. But you said millions, and it think you're stretching it.
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(03-06-2025, 06:05 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  I don't deny that. We know there are Muslims who left the faith.

If you say 100,000 in a year, I can accept that number. But you said millions, and it think you're stretching it.
100k UK maybe
Ali Dawah is not referring to Africa! Most likely, he's speaking about UK and he goes on to talk about the feelings of the youth....why would he talk about african youths!
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(03-06-2025, 05:57 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  I'm a nice guy, I will give you the benefit of doubt.
The figures may not be precise, but he did give an interview concerning Muslims choosing to leave Islam.

(03-06-2025, 06:05 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  I don't deny that. We know there are Muslims who left the faith.

If you say 100,000 in a year, I can accept that number. But you said millions, and it think you're stretching it.

Many Muslims have become Christians lah! Big Grin I can testify to that lah! We don't force them but let them decide for themselves lah! We just preached the gospel to them lah!
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(03-06-2025, 07:18 PM)cheekopekman Wrote:  Many Muslims have become Christians lah! Big Grin I can testify to that lah! We don't force them but let them decide for themselves lah! We just preached the gospel to them lah!

Your friend thinks that only 100k moslems leave Islam yearly  Big Grin it is in the millions !

In US, one report citing the 2020 Census estimate of 4.5 million, while others suggest a lower figure.
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Need testimonies of gangsters drug addicts who repented and became a Christian to lead unbelievers to Christ

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(03-06-2025, 07:46 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  Need testimonies of gangsters drug addicts who repented and became  a Christian to lead unbelievers to Christ


I think ckpm knew alot about their stories...maybe he can share some Big Grin
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(03-06-2025, 07:18 PM)cheekopekman Wrote:  Many Muslims have become Christians lah! Big Grin I can testify to that lah! We don't force them but let them decide for themselves lah! We just preached the gospel to them lah!

Why they convert since they already have islam? Islam doesnt believe in giving a second chance? I'm sure they give you reasons why they reject islam..maybe you can share a few here
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(03-06-2025, 08:00 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  I think ckpm knew alot about their stories...maybe he can share some Big Grin
Whether he wanted to share here 
Lol

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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https://youtu.be/-PtxtB82E5k?si=o00JGMCX9uVytXCL

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(03-06-2025, 08:00 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  I think ckpm knew alot about their stories...maybe he can share some Big Grin

There was a Malay hardcore drug addict who used to be a very strong Muslim lah! Big Grin But he was chased out by his family and despised by his Muslim community due to his drug addiction and also lots of debts unpaid lah! Some people even wanted him dead lah! Then he was brought to the drug rehab centre and heard about Jesus and then became a Christian lah! Now he has a 2nd home in the rehab centre helping others like him lah! Most importantly he accepted Jesus Christ as his personal Saviour and Lord of his life lah!
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(03-06-2025, 07:28 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Your friend thinks that only 100k moslems leave Islam yearly  Big Grin it is in the millions !

In US, one report citing the 2020 Census estimate of 4.5 million, while others suggest a lower figure.

Do you have data to support that?
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(03-06-2025, 09:03 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Do you have data to support that?

Reports lah
But 100k as Ali Dawah mentioned came from UK alone

https://zeenews.india.com/photos/india/u...74/2779777
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https://youtube.com/shorts/eUClmrNmIsA?s...1llZ9H_UQr
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(03-06-2025, 08:48 PM)cheekopekman Wrote:  There was a Malay hardcore drug addict who used to be a very strong Muslim lah! Big Grin But he was chased out by his family and despised by his Muslim community due to his drug addiction and also lots of debts unpaid lah! Some people even wanted him dead lah! Then he was brought to the drug rehab centre and heard about Jesus and then became a Christian lah! Now he has a 2nd home in the rehab centre helping others like him ilah! Most importantly he accepted Jesus Christ as his personal Saviour and Lord of his life lah!

Islam tends to emphasize individual responsibility....life is seen as a test, and one only focus on doing what's best for themself. Christianity, on the other hand, encourages us to support others and lend a helping hand whenever someone is struggling.
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(03-06-2025, 09:23 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Reports lah
But 100k as Ali Dawah mentioned came from UK alone

https://zeenews.india.com/photos/india/u...74/2779777

Ali Dawah didn't give us any data either. So we don't really know. Only Pew has numbers we can use because they have the data, and they are a credible organization.

Have you read about the census in the UK in 2021? Christians are now at 46% of the population of the UK. It was 59.3% in the last census in 2011. They are declining.
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(03-06-2025, 09:37 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Islam tends to emphasize individual responsibility....life is seen as a test, and one only focus on doing what's best for themself. Christianity, on the other hand, encourages us to support others and lend a helping hand whenever someone is struggling.

Wah! You speak like you know.

LOL
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(03-06-2025, 09:42 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Wah! You speak like you know.

LOL

Rotfl nice attempt tiok boh
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(03-06-2025, 09:40 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Ali Dawah didn't give us any data either. So we don't really know. Only Pew has numbers we can use because they have the data, and they are a credible organization.

Have you read about the census in the UK in 2021? Christians are now at 46% of the population of the UK. It was 59.3% in the last census in 2011. They are declining.

It is difficult to find any data..even the stats doesn't tell you the numbers..
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(03-06-2025, 09:45 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  It is difficult to find any data..even the stats doesn't tell you the numbers..

Pew has the numbers.
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(03-06-2025, 10:02 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Pew has the numbers.

World wide or selective countries only?
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https://fb.watch/z_KZqn6LIN/?

In UK Moslems considering immigrating

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(03-06-2025, 10:09 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  World wide or selective countries only?

Selective countries which can then be used to extrapolate across the globe.

Your made the claim about Africa. Pew polls covered 3 states in Africa. If we use it to extrapolate the entire African continent, the numbers you gave earlier is way off.
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https://www.facebook.com/reel/920361476838632?fs=e&fs=e

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(03-06-2025, 10:26 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Selective countries which can then be used to extrapolate across the globe.

Your made the claim about Africa. Pew polls covered 3 states in Africa. If we use it to extrapolate the entire African continent, the numbers you gave earlier is way off.

The pew research is base on Kenya, Ghana and Nigeria..only Nigeria is moslem dominant .90m Nigerians are moslem

You can't really rely on that as a measurement lah... 3 out of 54 is a pretty small sample. It is not even close, do you know how many African countries are predominantly Muslim? It's about 19...
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This moslem said that the NT is the injil leh...


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85% of New Testament nothing to do with Jesus 


https://youtube.com/shorts/wbezzjqbqKU?s...WDth0z-GGJ
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https://youtu.be/r_QZNz5wVOc?si=HICyURPYYAYUE6ef
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https://youtu.be/WBytnHzFt7Y?si=1nILekgGdycu14ky
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https://youtu.be/AyQs4XKPAJU?si=XVHGVpjt7oDixJt7
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https://youtu.be/gvP7cdfonfA?si=PZrS04evlyim24y8
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