[pinkpanther]

No one is depending on Jesus to live on this earth.
TheIt is Allah who give life and take the life back.

Even though Jesus is alive , He has no
Communication with this world.He has no power to communicate or to decide when to come.

how do you know there is no communications with the world...200 Gazans saw Jesus

[pinkpanther]

I don’t know the wisdom behind this.

However dozens of prophet from Jacob lineage had come to Israelites before Jesus.

Maybe .but Allah does not give them special attention

[Hope]

This ref to people who believed him during his life time.

It never says during his life time..and Allah is elevating us who follow Jesus above you the unbelievers till the end of days

I will purify you from those who deny the truth, and I will elevate your followers above the unbelievers until the Day of Resurrection.

Please read verse from 3:52-58


“When Jesus sensed disbelief from his people, he asked, “Who will stand up with me for Allah?” The disciples replied, “We will stand up for Allah. We believe in Allah, so bear witness that we have submitted.”

˹They prayed to Allah,˺ “Our Lord! We believe in Your revelations and follow the messenger, so count us among those who bear witness.”

And the disbelievers made a plan ˹against Jesus˺, but Allah also planned—and Allah is the best of planners.

Remember˺ when Allah said, “O Jesus! I will take you1 and raise you up to Myself. I will deliver you from those who disbelieve, and elevate your followers above the disbelievers until the Day of Judgment. Then to Me you will ˹all˺ return, and I will settle all your disputes.

As for those who disbelieve, I will subject them to a severe punishment in this life and the Hereafter, and they will have no helpers.

And as for those who believe and do good, they will be rewarded in full. And Allah does not like the wrongdoers.”

We recite ˹all˺ this to you ˹O Prophet˺ as one of the signs1 and ˹as˺ a wise reminder.”Quran 3:52-58

[Hope]

how do you know there is no communications with the world...200 Gazans saw Jesus

If you can communicate with Jesus,ask him if this is true.

[pinkpanther]

If you can communicate with Jesus,ask him if this is true.

Jesus communicated with the 200 moslems..they will say that it is true..

[pinkpanther]

Please read verse from 3:52-58


“When Jesus sensed disbelief from his people, he asked, “Who will stand up with me for Allah?” The disciples replied, “We will stand up for Allah. We believe in Allah, so bear witness that we have submitted.”

˹They prayed to Allah,˺ “Our Lord! We believe in Your revelations and follow the messenger, so count us among those who bear witness.”

And the disbelievers made a plan ˹against Jesus˺, but Allah also planned—and Allah is the best of planners.

Remember˺ when Allah said, “O Jesus! I will take you1 and raise you up to Myself. I will deliver you from those who disbelieve, and elevate your followers above the disbelievers until the Day of Judgment. Then to Me you will ˹all˺ return, and I will settle all your disputes.

As for those who disbelieve, I will subject them to a severe punishment in this life and the Hereafter, and they will have no helpers.

And as for those who believe and do good, they will be rewarded in full. And Allah does not like the wrongdoers.”

We recite ˹all˺ this to you ˹O Prophet˺ as one of the signs1 and ˹as˺ a wise reminder.”Quran 3:52-58

˹They prayed to Allah,˺ “Our Lord! We believe in Your revelations and follow the messenger, so count us among those who bear witness.”

And the disbelievers made a plan ˹against Jesus˺, but Allah also planned—and Allah is the best of planners

The ones who pray to the Father are the true believers

The disbelievers are the Israelites, we are the believers of Christ

[Hope]

how do you know there is no communications with the world...200 Gazans saw Jesus

If you can communicate with Jesus,ask him if this is true.

Jesus communicated with the 200 moslems..they will say that it is true..

There are Palestinians Christian in Gaza and West Bank who are also suffering.

Why didn’t Jesus communicate with those Christian instead of Muslims?

[pinkpanther]

There are Palestinians Christian in Gaza and West Bank who are also suffering.

Why didn’t Jesus communicate with those Christian instead of Muslims?

Because the Christians in Gaza already believe in Him!

[Hope]

˹They prayed to Allah,˺ “Our Lord! We believe in Your revelations and follow the messenger, so count us among those who bear witness.”

And the disbelievers made a plan ˹against Jesus˺, but Allah also planned—and Allah is the best of planners

The ones who pray to the Father are the true believers

The disbelievers are the Israelites, we are the believers of Christ

Christian are not true believers of Jewish Jesus.

Only a small group of Jews followed him.

[Hope]

There are Palestinians Christian in Gaza and West Bank who are also suffering.

Why didn’t Jesus communicate with those Christian instead of Muslims?

Because the Christians in Gaza already believe in Him!

He couldn’t help those already believing in him!

Their church are destroyed. 
Jews spit on them.
No money
No safety.
No visa to other countries 

But Jesus is busy recruiting new member 😂

You still want to believe fake news?

[pinkpanther]

Christian are not true believers of Jewish Jesus.

Only a small group of Jews followed him.

Christians are believers of Jesus and they suffered...Allah bless those that suffered for Jesus..correct?

[pinkpanther]

He couldn’t help those already believing in him!

Their church are destroyed. 
Jews spit on them.
No money
No safety.
No visa to other countries 

But Jesus is busy recruiting new member 😂

You still want to believe fake news?

Jesus is helping those suffering moslems...
Why do you think the media lie

[cheekopekman]

Christians are believers of Jesus and they suffered...Allah bless those that suffered for Jesus..correct?

Correct lah!

[Hope]

Christian are not true believers of Jewish Jesus.

Only a small group of Jews followed him.

Christians are believers of Jesus and they suffered...Allah bless those that suffered for Jesus..correct?

Correct lah!

Christian are not true followers of Jesus.

Did Jesus teach trinity?in Which verse?

Did Jesus ask you to eat pork?

[Hope]

He couldn’t help those already believing in him!

Their church are destroyed. 
Jews spit on them.
No money
No safety.
No visa to other countries 

But Jesus is busy recruiting new member 😂

You still want to believe fake news?

Jesus is helping those suffering moslems...
Why do you think the media lie

Helping what?

Media? Those desperate Christian YouTuber create fake news. Do you know why?

Here few examples 

https://youtu.be/VCIci44zeps?si=Dx9WWmqLCy3kMtdK

https://youtu.be/VFgZXPsnzj8?si=rBA6aE2vIzw_GbK3

https://youtube.com/shorts/kisc1yNAYZU?s...VWSrPdH4mq

https://youtube.com/shorts/j7C36kQJrNo?s...HEVqAz8Tcl

https://youtu.be/VFvStVOp5BM?si=QWIe0eanTTOcEazG

[Ali Imran]

He is the ultimate sacrifice for human sins....
With His sinless self, an act of divine love and grace that atoned for humanity's sins and reconciled them with God....is that not divine..

According to you, the divine didn't die, only the human body. That means it was a regular human sacrifice, like what the pagans used to do all the time.

[pinkpanther]

Christian are not true followers of Jesus.

Did Jesus teach trinity?in Which verse?

Did Jesus ask you to eat pork?

Who are truly the followers of Jesus? Are they the Israelites? If the Islamic Jesus came to deliver the Injil, then he would be teaching Tawhid—which aligns with the beliefs of the Israelites...

Who are the disbelievers? A small faction that believe in the trinity?  instead of punishing and destroying this group, Allah elevated their status and bless them in numbers and make them the largest religion in the world?   

Yet another Islamic dilemma

Yeshua Akbar!

[pinkpanther]

According to you, the divine didn't die, only the human body. That means it was a regular human sacrifice, like what the pagans used to do all the time.

It was the final sacrifice .. how can it be considered pagan when we no longer engage in such practices? In islam millions of lambs are sacrificed in 1 day as an act of obedience....so, is Islam pagan?

[Ali Imran]

It was the final sacrifice .. how can it be considered pagan when we no longer engage in such practices? In islam millions of lambs are sacrificed in 1 day as an act of obedience....so, is Islam pagan?

Did you say only the human was sacrificed?

Did the pagans used to do the same before Jesus?

[pinkpanther]

Did you say only the human was sacrificed?

Did the pagans used to do the same before Jesus?

Yes..Jesus had wounds, bleed, suffered pain and died..his human nature died!

There was child sacrifices back then

[Hope]

Who are truly the followers of Jesus? Are they the Israelites? If the Islamic Jesus came to deliver the Injil, then he would be teaching Tawhid—which aligns with the beliefs of the Israelites...

Who are the disbelievers? A small faction that believe in the trinity?  instead of punishing and destroying this group, Allah elevated their status and bless them in numbers and make them the largest religion in the world?   

Yet another Islamic dilemma

Yeshua Akbar!

Israelites were away from the law of Moses.
Jesus came to establish the law of Moses.
Only a few accepted him. Other rejected him and followed their desires and Rabbis.

Allah elevated only those who followed him during his life time.

[pinkpanther]

Israelites were away from the law of Moses.
Jesus came to establish the law of Moses.
Only a few accepted him. Other rejected him and followed their desires and Rabbis.

Allah elevated only those who followed him during his life time.

Remember Hope, Jesus came to confirm the Torah before he preach the injil...so the majority of Israelites should support Jesus....
If present-day Jews accept the Islamic account of Jesus, they should show respect for Jesus... however, it is not the case...they hated Jesus

[pinkpanther]

Israelites were away from the law of Moses.
Jesus came to establish the law of Moses.
Only a few accepted him. Other rejected him and followed their desires and Rabbis.

Allah elevated only those who followed him during his life time.

Verse #1
اِذۡ قَالَ اللّٰہُ یٰعِیۡسٰۤی اِنِّیۡ مُتَوَفِّیۡکَ وَ رَافِعُکَ اِلَیَّ وَ مُطَہِّرُکَ مِنَ الَّذِیۡنَ کَفَرُوۡا وَ جَاعِلُ الَّذِیۡنَ اتَّبَعُوۡکَ فَوۡقَ الَّذِیۡنَ کَفَرُوۡۤا اِلٰی یَوۡمِ الۡقِیٰمَۃِ ۚ ثُمَّ اِلَیَّ مَرۡجِعُکُمۡ فَاَحۡکُمُ بَیۡنَکُمۡ فِیۡمَا کُنۡتُمۡ فِیۡہِ تَخۡتَلِفُوۡنَ ﴿۵۶﴾

Translation: When Allah said, ‘O Jesus, I will cause thee to die a natural death and will exalt thee to Myself, and will clear thee from the charges of those who disbelieve, and will place those who follow thee above those who disbelieve, until the Day of Resurrection; then to Me shall be your return, and I will judge between you concerning that wherein you differ. [3:56]

So did Jesus died or Allah raise him alive?

The Islamic dilemma continues

[Ali Imran]

Yes..Jesus had wounds, bleed, suffered pain and died..his human nature died!

There was child sacrifices back then

Child or adult sacrifice, a practice of the pagans which God abhor. But you believe God sacrifice a human. I find that a contradiction. 

Let me ask you another question. When pagans sacrificed humans, they did it to appease the gods. Who is God appeasing when God, as you believe, sacrificed a man?

[Ali Imran]

Verse #1
اِذۡ قَالَ اللّٰہُ یٰعِیۡسٰۤی اِنِّیۡ مُتَوَفِّیۡکَ وَ رَافِعُکَ اِلَیَّ وَ مُطَہِّرُکَ مِنَ الَّذِیۡنَ کَفَرُوۡا وَ جَاعِلُ الَّذِیۡنَ اتَّبَعُوۡکَ فَوۡقَ الَّذِیۡنَ کَفَرُوۡۤا اِلٰی یَوۡمِ الۡقِیٰمَۃِ ۚ ثُمَّ اِلَیَّ مَرۡجِعُکُمۡ فَاَحۡکُمُ بَیۡنَکُمۡ فِیۡمَا کُنۡتُمۡ فِیۡہِ تَخۡتَلِفُوۡنَ ﴿۵۶﴾

Translation: When Allah said, ‘O Jesus, I will cause thee to die a natural death and will exalt thee to Myself, and will clear thee from the charges of those who disbelieve, and will place those who follow thee above those who disbelieve, until the Day of Resurrection; then to Me shall be your return, and I will judge between you concerning that wherein you differ. [3:56]

So did Jesus died or Allah raise him alive?

The Islamic dilemma continues

Whose translation is that?

[pinkpanther]

Child or adult sacrifice, a practice of the pagans which God abhor. But you believe God sacrifice a human. I find that a contradiction. 

Let me ask you another question. When pagans sacrificed humans, they did it to appease the gods. Who is God appeasing when God, as you believe, sacrificed a man?

Jesus willingly offered himself as a sacrifice to atone for the sins of humanity..This is not a scenario where one individual sacrificed another to a deity, as in some historical practices.

[pinkpanther]

Whose translation is that?

So which interpretation is the correct one?

Amatul Rahman Omar

Asad

Daryabadi


https://quran.wwpa.com/page/verse-3-55



The Islamic dilemma continues

[Lukongsimi]

Pagans sacrificed human to appease their gods 
While God sacrifice His only begotten son to save humanity 
When Abraham was about to kill his son Isaac for sacrifice as testing God stop him and a lamb was ready prepared by God to be killed for sacrifice 
What does that tells you?

[Lukongsimi]

If you can communicate with Jesus,ask him if this is true.

Only believers will believe

[pinkpanther]

Pagans sacrificed human to appease their gods 
While God sacrifice His only begotten son to save humanity 
When Abraham was about to kill his son Isaac for sacrifice as testing God stop him and a lamb was ready prepared by God to be killed for sacrifice 
What does that tells you?

God tells the moslems :" I have enough lamb chops for a day, can you bring me sotong and ikan next year"