Scripture readings for Christmas

(29-06-2025, 06:41 AM)cheekopekman Wrote:  Did you know that Gaza is mentioned in the Bible leh? Thinking It's 1 of those many areas that the Israelites had not yet taken possession of the promised land in Canaan. Now Israel is taking back the land lah! Big Grin

Israel took Gaza in 1967 but withdrew in 2005 lah Big Grin
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(29-06-2025, 10:26 AM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  He thinks his religion is the true and purest 
Full of love and compassion 
Forgiving 
But no it’s full of fear and uncertain future

Muhammad does not teach that...he taught every man for his own, life is a test
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Pachik keeps judging Christians and he did not know which is the correct path to take
He prefers the wide and unbelievable path

As a dog returns to its vomit, so fools repeat their folly
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trinity is inside the Bible 


“For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one.”
‭‭1 John‬ ‭5‬:‭7‬-‭8‬ ‭KJV

As a dog returns to its vomit, so fools repeat their folly
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(29-06-2025, 10:00 AM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  Since you keep murmuring about the commandments do you know
What are the two greatest commandments Jesus gave ?

Let's take the foremost, the greatest of all the commandments that Jesus taught, which, not accidentally, is also the foremost of the commandments in Islam.

Shema Yisrael, Adonai Eloheinu, Adonai Echad

Laa ilaha illallah
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(29-06-2025, 10:29 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Muhammad does not teach that...he taught every man for his own, life is a test

When you're an ignoramus, you can still learn.

When you're arrogant, you cannot learn.
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(29-06-2025, 10:15 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Galatians 1:8 states that even if an angel or a preacher brings a gospel different from what was originally preached, it should be rejected

Do you know why Paul said that to the Galatians? It was because Peter, the disciple of Jesus, gave different teachings to them.
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(29-06-2025, 10:11 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:  No.. According to the Quran, the moslems and the Jews worship the same God and that is Allah.. Big Grin

So killing women, children, and even infants is what your God wants.

Ok noted. Big Grin

How did you come to that silly conclusion? While it is true that Jews and Muslims worship the same One, the Muslims do not have any teachings where it is okay to kill innocent people.
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(29-06-2025, 10:08 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Laughing They are righteous and follow God's commands but are they sinless? The Bible also acknowledges that no one perfectly keeps the commandments in their daily lives.....

We read in the book of Luke of a couple who were righteous and kept the commandments perfectly.

Who told you that no one can keep the commandments perfectly?
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(29-06-2025, 10:17 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Allah supports the conflicts.That is sad indeed, having a faith that made you turn a blind eye to the killing of women and children, including infants.

We believe Jesus will return and kill those evil people who are committing genocide right now with the blessings of many Christians like CKPM this morning.
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(29-06-2025, 09:45 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:  How many times must I repeat that Paul's teachings are in line with Jesus's teachings...

Jesus said his followers must keep the commandments.
Paul said there is no need to keep the commandments.

Is that in line? Is that the same?
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(29-06-2025, 01:11 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  trinity is inside the Bible 


“For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one.”
‭‭1 John‬ ‭5‬:‭7‬-‭8‬ ‭KJV

How come MOST Bibles have thrown out that verse?
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(29-06-2025, 10:16 AM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  Your Koran contradicts the first written Bible inspired by God what you think?
Teaching moslems to kill Jesus followers and not to friend them what you think?
Jesus is God who performed many miracles on earth  and your muh was just a human who only  killed lusted after women so which one to believe and trust ?

When you cannot answer my question, you will elak and move the goalpost.

Let me try again. You said "No one is righteous all have sin n fall short of glory of God." but how come the Bible tells us stories of some people who were righteous in the sight of God?
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(29-06-2025, 09:59 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:  making the Arab nations great can be interpreted as a reference to both a large population and a nation with political and social influence..the bible has fulfilled this prophecy...This does not negate the fact that Arabs are granted free will to choose what they wish to believe

Would God in the Bible say the Muslims are a great nation if they are worshipping a different God?
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(29-06-2025, 02:05 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  When you're an ignoramus, you can still learn.

When you're arrogant, you cannot learn.

What is there to learn from the Quran? Which interpretation is the word of Muhammad?

Muhammad and Abu Bakr also taught some disguisting words ...should I learn it and use it against you? Big Grin
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(29-06-2025, 02:48 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  What is there to learn from the Quran? Which interpretation is the word of Muhammad?

None. We believe the Quran is the verbatim word of Allah.
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(29-06-2025, 02:12 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  We read in the book of Luke of a couple who were righteous and kept the commandments perfectly.

Who told you that no one can keep the commandments perfectly?

How many can be perfect in keeping the law like the couple? Just a handful ...so what happens to the rest?  hell bound because of their imperfections?

Paul emphasizes that no one can be justified by works of the law, meaning that perfect adherence to the law is unattainable and that salvation comes through faith in Jesus Christ....
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(29-06-2025, 02:50 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  None. We believe the Quran is the verbatim word of Allah.

No...we believe the Quran was from an entity but not Jibril because the Quran contradicts the previous scriptures
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(29-06-2025, 02:53 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  How many can be perfect in keeping the law like the couple? Just a handful ...so what happens to the rest?  hell bound because of their imperfections?

Ok cool. It's good that you are now admitting that you were wrong earlier when you said no one is righteous.
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(29-06-2025, 02:18 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Jesus said his followers must keep the commandments.
Paul said there is no need to keep the commandments.

Is that in line? Is that the same?

You and your Quran make plenty of claims without showing any evidences...just hot air
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(29-06-2025, 02:54 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  No...we believe the Quran was from an entity but not Jibril because the Quran contradicts the previous scriptures

Ok. Feel free to believe whatever you like.
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(29-06-2025, 02:55 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  You and your Quran make plenty of claims without showing any evidences...just hot air

So you can see now how that particular teaching of Paul contradicts what Jesus said?
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(29-06-2025, 02:53 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Paul emphasizes that no one can be justified by works of the law, meaning that perfect adherence to the law is unattainable and that salvation comes through faith in Jesus Christ....

Jesus said salvation comes through faith and obedience to the Law.

Are we clear now that what Paul taught is not the same as what Jesus taught?
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(29-06-2025, 02:14 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  We believe Jesus will return and kill those evil people who are committing genocide right now with the blessings of many Christians like CKPM this morning.

Why would Jesus be responsible for killing people where Allah wills it? Allah should explain all these sufferings and stop the conflicts...

Ckpm is just interpreting the Bible
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(29-06-2025, 02:57 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  So you can see now how that particular teaching of Paul contradicts what Jesus said?

When you say Paul taught to discard the law...I ask you where...you cannot prove Laughing
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(29-06-2025, 02:59 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Why would Jesus be responsible for killing people where Allah wills it? Allah should explain all these sufferings and stop the conflicts...

Ckpm is just interpreting the Bible

Yes, we can find commands to commit genocide purportedly from God.

Don't blame God for what evil men do. There is a reason why there will be hell in the afterlife.
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(29-06-2025, 03:00 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  When you say Paul taught to discard the law...I ask you where...you cannot prove Laughing

Did Paul teach Sola Fide?
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(29-06-2025, 02:58 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Jesus said salvation comes through faith and obedience to the Law.

Are we clear now that what Paul taught is not the same as what Jesus taught?

Nope... scholars disagree with what you said...my opinion matters for nothing but these experts know more than you
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(29-06-2025, 03:02 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Nope... scholars disagree with what you said...my opinion matters for nothing but these experts know more than you

Which scholars say Jesus taught Sola Fide?
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(29-06-2025, 03:02 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Did Paul teach Sola Fide?

Nope...
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life". Those who believe it supports sola fide
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