[pinkpanther]

Why do you blame the Father, whom the Jews pray to, for the evil men do?

I don blame the Father if He chose to punish the disbelievers ...
In this case, both sides have evil men who have done evil things

[pinkpanther]

Feel free to believe some random guy you find on youtube. You are gullible, indeed.

I find him more creditable than Zakir Naid..
He has more insights while Zakir and you share some common grounds..that is misinterpreting the Bible

[pinkpanther]

God says He is not a man. But you believe a man is God.

Even the Hindus believe God can be a man...

[pinkpanther]

Hamas disgraced Islam

https://m.youtube.com/shorts/5UXrh2_JIEk

[Ali Imran]

I don blame the Father if He chose to punish the disbelievers ...
In this case, both sides have evil men who have done evil things

Are the Jews who abide by the OT disbelievers?

[Ali Imran]

Even the Hindus believe God can be a man...

Yes, that is true. They also believe an elephant is god. And a monkey too.

[Ali Imran]

You see how confused you lot are....there are no 2 ways about it..either you believe or you disbelieve the Jewish scriptures..

So Muhammad was lying when he required moslems to believe in the 4 islamic books according to the article of faith?

Can you truly be a moslem if you do not believe in previous scriptures?

You don't seem to read very well. I have already said that our Prophet صلي الله عليه وسلم told us not to believe or disbelieve the Jewish scriptures, and yet you insist that our Prophet صلي الله عليه وسلم requires us to believe in them. 

That's arrogance, telling us that you know better the teachings of our Prophet صلي الله عليه وسلم, than all the Muslims.

[Ali Imran]

Nothing is free, let us not kid ourselves...you scratch my back and I will scratch yours..

Moslems believe in giving alms but why are Arab moslems not helping the people of Palestine with manpower, weapons and money? Why did they not grant them quick access to their countries...

Whether free or not, they are supporting the zionist regime in the genocide.

[Ali Imran]

No...only God can justify the genocide..

When you said, a few days ago, that people die in wars, you are justifying the killings of Palestinians.

[cheekopekman]

What did the Christians do to the Jews during the crusades? And the holocaust?

My whole church is praying for God to intervene and stop the wars lah!  Only God can stop it lah! We also collected donations to the red cross for Palestine lah!

[cheekopekman]

You must understand more about your moslem friend
You must discourage him to go into the battlefield...because he cannot speak and understand Arabic...one wrong command might cost his life

Isn't my Muslim friend your friend also leh?  We only have 1 enemy that is Satan lah!

[Ali Imran]

My whole church is praying for God to intervene and stop the wars lah!  Only God can stop it lah! We also collected donations to the red cross for Palestine lah!

The evil zionists are also killing innocent Christians in Palestine.

[pinkpanther]

You don't seem to read very well. I have already said that our Prophet صلي الله عليه وسلم told us not to believe or disbelieve the Jewish scriptures, and yet you insist that our Prophet صلي الله عليه وسلم requires us to believe in them. 

That's arrogance, telling us that you know better the teachings of our Prophet صلي الله عليه وسلم, than all the Muslims.

I do not need to be arrogant to tell you that you do not follow the Allah

Allah makes it clear in the Quran yet you chose not to believe...no wonder Mạhdi Abdullah labelled the moslems as under a curse..

AI

Allah emphasizes the importance of believing in the Torah (Tawrat) as part of guidance given to previous prophets and communities. Some relevant verses include:

Surah Al-Imran (3:3-4):
"It is He who sent down to you, [O Muhammad], the Book in truth, confirming what came before it, and He revealed the Torah and the Gospel. Before as guidance for the people. And He sent down the criterion (Al-Furqan)." 

Surah Al-Ma'idah (5:44):
"Indeed, We sent down the Torah, in which was guidance and light. The prophets who submitted [to Allah] judged according to it for the Jews, as did the rabbis and the scholars by that which they were entrusted of the Book of Allah, and they were witnesses thereto." 

Surah Al-Ma'idah (5:68):
"Say, O People of the Book, you have no ground to stand on unless you uphold the Torah, the Gospel, and what has been revealed to you from your Lord."

These verses indicate that Muslims believe in the Torah as a divine scripture revealed by Allah, and that belief in previous scriptures is part of faith in the unseen.

[pinkpanther]

Are the Jews who abide by the OT disbelievers?

Yes according to Islam...they are labelled as disbelievers even if they abide by the OT

[pinkpanther]

Whether free or not, they are supporting the zionist regime in the genocide.

Oh so you support Hamas genocidal massacre of 1200 Israelis on October 7?

[pinkpanther]

When you said, a few days ago, that people die in wars, you are justifying the killings of Palestinians.

Hello...innocent Israelis also die...how can you pretend not to include them?

[pinkpanther]

The evil zionists are also killing innocent Christians in Palestine.

You are always pushing the blame to the Zionists and yet never condemn the acts of Hamas...

Astaghfirullah...you are indeed a fair and unbiased fellow

[pinkpanther]

Isn't my Muslim friend your friend also leh?  We only have 1 enemy that is Satan lah!

How do you know that your friend can never be an associate of Satan?

[Ali Imran]

I do not need to be arrogant to tell you that you do not follow the Allah

Allah makes it clear in the Quran yet you chose not to believe...no wonder Mạhdi Abdullah labelled the moslems as under a curse..

AI

Allah emphasizes the importance of believing in the Torah (Tawrat) as part of guidance given to previous prophets and communities. Some relevant verses include:

Surah Al-Imran (3:3-4):
"It is He who sent down to you, [O Muhammad], the Book in truth, confirming what came before it, and He revealed the Torah and the Gospel. Before as guidance for the people. And He sent down the criterion (Al-Furqan)." 

Surah Al-Ma'idah (5:44):
"Indeed, We sent down the Torah, in which was guidance and light. The prophets who submitted [to Allah] judged according to it for the Jews, as did the rabbis and the scholars by that which they were entrusted of the Book of Allah, and they were witnesses thereto." 

Surah Al-Ma'idah (5:68):
"Say, O People of the Book, you have no ground to stand on unless you uphold the Torah, the Gospel, and what has been revealed to you from your Lord."

These verses indicate that Muslims believe in the Torah as a divine scripture revealed by Allah, and that belief in previous scriptures is part of faith in the unseen.

Many times I've already told you. We believe Allah revealed the Torah and the Injeel. 

Do we have the Torah and the Injeel today? No, we don't. 

It is as simple as that but you don't seem to be able to grasp it.

[Ali Imran]

Yes according to Islam...they are labelled as disbelievers even if they abide by the OT

Who told you that they are disbelievers if they abide by the OT?

[pinkpanther]

My whole church is praying for God to intervene and stop the wars lah!  Only God can stop it lah! We also collected donations to the red cross for Palestine lah!

These 2 groups of moslems and Jews are a nuisance...if they never find a solution then how much more money do you need to part?

[Ali Imran]

Oh so you support Hamas genocidal massacre of 1200 Israelis on October 7?

If Hamas killed innocent people, they have broken the Islamic rule of warfare, and they are liable to be persecuted in the court of law.

As for the number 1200, we cannot be sure of that. I understand that many Israelis were killed by their own people, following the Hannibal directive, where the soldiers are told to kill their own people to prevent them from being taken as hostages.

[pinkpanther]

Who told you that they are disbelievers if they abide by the OT?

The Quran told me that they are still disbelievers if they abide by the scriptures...that is why a jizya is imposed on their faith even if they follow the torah

[Ali Imran]

Hello...innocent Israelis also die...how can you pretend not to include them?

I don't justify any killing of innocent civilians.

[Ali Imran]

The Quran told me that they are still disbelievers if they abide by the scriptures...that is why a jizya is imposed on their faith even if they follow the torah

The Quran refers to them as "people of the book", not disbelievers.

[Ali Imran]

You are always pushing the blame to the Zionists and yet never condemn the acts of Hamas...

Astaghfirullah...you are indeed a fair and unbiased fellow

If Hamas intentionally killed innocent people, they are guilty of murder. But as far as fighting the zionists, they have that right under international law, which allows them to take up arms to drive away the occupiers.

[pinkpanther]

If Hamas killed innocent people, they have broken the Islamic rule of warfare, and they are liable to be persecuted in the court of law.

As for the number 1200, we cannot be sure of that. I understand that many Israelis were killed by their own people, following the Hannibal directive, where the soldiers are told to kill their own people to prevent them from being taken as hostages.

Have Hamas not killed women and children or taken Israelis hostage?

Hamas says October 7 attack was a ‘necessary step’, admits to ‘some faults’..
Why are you defending the numbers 1200...it could be less it could be more...you cannot defend this kind of acts by defending the numbers....no wonder Mạhdi Abdullah says that moslems are under a curse ..Astaghfirullah

[Ali Imran]

Have Hamas not killed women and children or taken Israelis hostage?

According to the zionists, Hamas killed women and children. But we don't have much evidence for that because the zionists don't allow international investigators to look into the evidence. We already know the zionists are great liars. 

Having said that, I don't dismiss the possibility of Hamas committing war crimes.

[pinkpanther]

If Hamas intentionally killed innocent people, they are guilty of murder. But as far as fighting the zionists, they have that right under international law, which allows them to take up arms to drive away the occupiers.

So Hamas have the rights...don Israel have the rights to go on an attack? If the hamas leaders are hiding in a hospital and using it as a military base or post to pass down orders ..don the Zionists have the right to destroy even though there were civilians?

[Ali Imran]

So Hamas have the rights...don Israel have the rights to go on an attack? If the hamas leaders are hiding in a hospital and using it as a military base or post to pass down orders ..don the Zionists have the right to destroy even though there were civilians?

The zionists are ILLEGALLY occupying other people's land. That is unlawful under international law.

And no, I don't believe the zionists when they made that claim of Hamas using hospitals as military bases. They made that up just so they could destroy the hospitals. The zionists are known liars.