Scripture readings for Christmas

(Yesterday, 04:12 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  This week donate to Palestine, next week donate to Israel.. Big Grin every week donate...you will be left only with your underwear lah Big Grin

Money might go to buying more bombs to attack Israel lol

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(Yesterday, 04:12 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  This week donate to Palestine, next week donate to Israel.. Big Grin every week donate...you will be left only with your underwear lah Big Grin

I just put some money into the donation box lah! Big Grin Did you leh? Thinking
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God is using America and Israel to unleash against the moslems

https://m.youtube.com/shorts/JGcM4dHx1Ig
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(Yesterday, 04:15 PM)cheekopekman Wrote:  I just put some money into the donation box lah! Big Grin Did you leh? Thinking

Donate for poor, old and sick OK lah...donate to Palestine and israel I don donate! Big Grin 
How many times must donate to them Big Grin
Just buy and donate1000 cartons of indo mee for them enough lah...lol
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(Yesterday, 03:26 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  Only the devil will think like u

Didn't the Bible also ask that you think it through? To test if what you are told to believe is the correct faith?
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(Yesterday, 03:27 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Laughing I must please God first before He can show me the sign..

How do you please God?
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(Yesterday, 04:25 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Donate for poor, old and sick OK lah...donate to Palestine and israel I don donate! Big Grin 
How many times must donate to them Big Grin
Just buy and donate1000 cartons of indo mee for them enough lah...lol

Your money you can do whatever you want lah! Big Grin
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(Yesterday, 03:35 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Laughing I'm just speaking honestly. The term 'muhaymin' can be understood in different ways. What God revealed in the Quran is interpreted differently by various Moslems... Everyone has their own perspective, and the interpretations seem quite scattered. When there’s a lack of consistency in the explanations, it raises doubts about whether the Quran truly represents the words of Allah...

That is why some radical moslems misinterpret the Quran and see it as a sign to use violence against disbelievers...many cases here already..

Whatever the scholars interpret the word "muhaymin", it all means the same, that the Quran is the authority in determining what is true or false in the previous scriptures.

When Allah says in verse 112:1, do any scholars have a scattered interpretation of that verse?
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(Yesterday, 03:25 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  So God must please you first before you believe him?

(Yesterday, 03:27 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Laughing I must please God first before He can show me the sign..

Whether God answers my prayers or not I still believe in Him lah! Big Grin Without faith it is impossible to please God lah!
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(11 hours ago)Ali Imran Wrote:  Didn't the Bible also ask that you think it through? To test if what you are told to believe is the correct faith?
The correct faith is none other than God of the Bible

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(Yesterday, 03:39 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  We believe that the authors of our gospels are all inspired by God ...

Ok. So you agree that the opening verses of Luke are not the words of Jesus pbuh. So it is not the Injeel given to Jesus.

Now you're saying the authors of the gospels are all inspired by God. Did any of the authors of the Gospels say that?
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(11 hours ago)Lukongsimi Wrote:  The correct faith is none other than the bible

Which Bible? The one with 1 John 5:7 that you quoted or the one that doesn't have that verse?
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(Yesterday, 03:48 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:   Even in their disobedience, God did not abandon them lah..they are the chosen nation favored by God..

So Jesus was lying when he said God's kingdom would be taken away from them because of their insolence?
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(Yesterday, 03:51 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  The Bible, specifically in Matthew 5:44 and Luke 6:28, commands believers to love and bless their enemies, praying for those who persecute them. This teaching emphasizes overcoming evil with good and demonstrating the love of God to all, even those who are hostile. 

Here's a more detailed explanation:
  • Matthew 5:44: "But I say to you, Love your enemies, bless those who curse you, do good to those who hate you, and pray for those who spitefully use you and persecute you." 

Ok. So you added bless to the words of Jesus, something Jesus didn't say. 

Can you love your enemies? If your enemy comes to harm you, would you still love them?
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(Yesterday, 03:54 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  Show us the truth inside the Koran

Quran chapter 112.

Say: God is one
God the self-sufficient
He begets not nor is He begotten
There is nothing like unto him
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(Yesterday, 03:54 PM)cheekopekman Wrote:  I'm aware of it and praying for those Christians in Palestine lah! Sad

Do you support what Israel is doing, taking Palestine by force?
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(11 hours ago)Ali Imran Wrote:  Which Bible? The one with 1 John 5:7 that you quoted or the one that doesn't have that verse?
Need to read kjv the older version

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(Yesterday, 04:01 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  Your allah ever answer your prayer ?

Every day.
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(Yesterday, 04:08 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  So u mean your Allah never pleases u or show u any signs or
Visions ?

Didn't your Bible say you cannot have a vision of God?

Signs of God's existence are everywhere.

I am always pleased with God for all the blessings of iman that He has given me.
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(11 hours ago)Ali Imran Wrote:  So Jesus was lying when he said God's kingdom would be taken away from them because of their insolence?

Do you know what is a parable?
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(11 hours ago)Lukongsimi Wrote:  Need to read kjv the older version

So KJV is the only correct Bible?

The other Bibles without 1 John 5:7 are not correct?
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(11 hours ago)Ali Imran Wrote:  Every day.

What u mean ?
Everyday u got food to eat is an answer from your Allah?

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(11 hours ago)Ali Imran Wrote:  Whatever the scholars interpret the word "muhaymin", it all means the same, that the Quran is the authority in determining what is true or false in the previous scriptures.

When Allah says in verse 112:1, do any scholars have a scattered interpretation of that verse?

Quran 4:157-158 
4 interpretations 

Here's a breakdown of the different interpretations:

1. The Appearance of Crucifixion:
Many Muslim scholars interpret the verses as meaning that Jesus was not actually crucified or killed in the way described in Christian tradition. 
Some believe that God made it appear to the Jews that they had crucified Jesus, while in reality, he was taken up to God. 
This interpretation emphasizes God's power and ability to deceive the enemies of Jesus and protect him. 

2. Jesus's Ascension:
The verses clearly state that God raised Jesus up to Himself, which is understood as a physical ascension to heaven. 

Some scholars believe this ascension happened while Jesus was still alive, bodily, and that he will return to Earth before the Day of Judgment. 
Others interpret the raising up as a spiritual elevation, but the majority view is a physical ascension. 

3. Doubts and Uncertainty:
The verses also highlight that those who claim to have killed Jesus are in doubt and conjecture.
This suggests that the Jews were mistaken in their belief that they had killed Jesus, and their claims are not based on certainty. 

4. Theological Implications:
The verses deny the Christian belief that Jesus died on the cross as a sacrifice for humanity. 
They affirm that Jesus was a prophet and messenger of God, and that God's power and wisdom were demonstrated in his protection and ascension. 
The verses emphasize that God is the ultimate authority and that His plans will prevail.
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(11 hours ago)pinkpanther Wrote:  Do you know what is a parable?

Did what Jesus said came true? That the kingdom of God was taken away from them? Do you know what happened to the Israelites after Jesus ascended?
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(11 hours ago)Ali Imran Wrote:  So KJV is the only correct Bible?

The other Bibles without 1 John 5:7 are not correct?
Old is more true or new one ?

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(11 hours ago)pinkpanther Wrote:  Quran 4:157-158 
4 interpretations 

Here's a breakdown of the different interpretations:

1. The Appearance of Crucifixion:
Many Muslim scholars interpret the verses as meaning that Jesus was not actually crucified or killed in the way described in Christian tradition. 
Some believe that God made it appear to the Jews that they had crucified Jesus, while in reality, he was taken up to God. 
This interpretation emphasizes God's power and ability to deceive the enemies of Jesus and protect him. 

2. Jesus's Ascension:
The verses clearly state that God raised Jesus up to Himself, which is understood as a physical ascension to heaven. 

Some scholars believe this ascension happened while Jesus was still alive, bodily, and that he will return to Earth before the Day of Judgment. 
Others interpret the raising up as a spiritual elevation, but the majority view is a physical ascension. 

3. Doubts and Uncertainty:
The verses also highlight that those who claim to have killed Jesus are in doubt and conjecture.
This suggests that the Jews were mistaken in their belief that they had killed Jesus, and their claims are not based on certainty. 

4. Theological Implications:
The verses deny the Christian belief that Jesus died on the cross as a sacrifice for humanity. 
They affirm that Jesus was a prophet and messenger of God, and that God's power and wisdom were demonstrated in his protection and ascension. 
The verses emphasize that God is the ultimate authority and that His plans will prevail.

Yes, Allah chooses not to explain to us exactly what happened in great detail. The important point is clear: that Jesus wasn't killed by his enemies, exactly as promised.
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(11 hours ago)Lukongsimi Wrote:  Old is more true or new one ?

When they discovered the error, they corrected it. So in this case, the new one is more accurate than the old one.
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(Yesterday, 02:05 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Did God say that if the Israelites didn't obey God, a curse would be on them instead?

Did Jesus warn the Israelites that the kingdom would be taken away from them and given to another nation?

Did the Israelites heed the warning?

Jews are  coming home to their promised land 

https://youtu.be/NpaKWR80oKc?si=v6OuNco9XIJo901d

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(11 hours ago)Lukongsimi Wrote:  What u mean ?
Everyday u got food to eat is an answer from your Allah?

Why not?

Isn't it Allah who gives us our sustenance?
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(11 hours ago)Ali Imran Wrote:  Ok. So you agree that the opening verses of Luke are not the words of Jesus pbuh. So it is not the Injeel given to Jesus.

Now you're saying the authors of the gospels are all inspired by God. Did any of the authors of the Gospels say that?

Who says the injil cannot be a biography of Jesus with some words of Jesus....if you have not seen the injil ..don pretend that you know the injil!

 2 Timothy 3:16, which states that "all Scripture is God-breathed...
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