Scripture readings for Christmas

All the time i tot their Koran was fully written and sent to their muh in one day
But no, it needs 23 years of their prophet to tell his people and the people to write it down after his death
How to know if no thing is being altered ?

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(11 hours ago)pinkpanther Wrote:  Yes..the Quran claims to be fully detailed..can you believe it Big Grin

Now the mocking starts.

When you both have been defeated, you both will start mocking.
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(11 hours ago)Ali Imran Wrote:  If you want to question what is written in that Gospel, we can also question many things in the Gospels that made it into the NT.

And that Gospel of Thomas wasn't the only one around. There are like 20 or 30 Gospels written.

The gospels need to meet certain criterias...you cannot suka suka say this is reliable

The Bible's canonization was a process, not the work of a single person or event. Various Church councils and leaders, over centuries, affirmed which books were considered divinely inspired and thus part of the canon.
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(11 hours ago)pinkpanther Wrote:  Yes..the Quran claims to be fully detailed..can you believe it Big Grin

No way I can believe it 
Lol

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(11 hours ago)Ali Imran Wrote:  Now the mocking starts.

When you both have been defeated, you both will start mocking.

So mocking means defeated? So if I don mock, I will remain undefeated? Big Grin
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(11 hours ago)Lukongsimi Wrote:  All the time i tot their Koran was fully written and sent to their muh in one day
But no, it needs 23 years of their prophet to tell his people and the people to write it down after his death
How to know if no thing is being altered ?

Yes, the revelation that took 23 years is a miracle, if you know the facts. It will take me quite a while to explain why that is a miracle.

How to know if nothing is being altered? The hundreds of Hafiz, people who memorized everything.
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(11 hours ago)Ali Imran Wrote:  Now the mocking starts.

When you both have been defeated, you both will start mocking.

U cannot take the heat 
U mock first we have to answer
How to go to battle field if u are so sensitive
U will cry to the enemies u mocker lol

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(11 hours ago)Ali Imran Wrote:  Men wrote down the verbatim words of Allah.

No..Men wrote down the verbatim words of Muhammad
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(10 hours ago)pinkpanther Wrote:  So mocking means defeated? So if I don mock, I will remain undefeated? Big Grin

If you can still argue, that means you still have arguments. When you run out of arguments, you will start mocking. I noticed that about both of you.
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(10 hours ago)pinkpanther Wrote:  No..Men wrote down the verbatim words of Muhammad

We believe the Quran is the verbatim words of Allah.

You cannot falsify our faith. The most you can do is to disbelieve it.
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(10 hours ago)Ali Imran Wrote:  Yes, the revelation that took 23 years is a miracle, if you know the facts. It will take me quite a while to explain why that is a miracle.

How to know if nothing is being altered? The hundreds of Hafiz, people who memorized everything.

23 years is not a miracle 
Something might be altered and written down as u can read some verses are damn funny 
Unbelievable

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(10 hours ago)Ali Imran Wrote:  If you can still argue, that means you still have arguments. When you run out of arguments, you will start mocking. I noticed that about both of you.

We Follow your foot steps lah

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(10 hours ago)Lukongsimi Wrote:  U cannot take the heat 
U mock first we have to answer
How to go to battle field if u are so sensitive
U will cry to the enemies u mocker lol

This thread has been going on for more than half a year, and I am still here, making both of you realize there are many things you don't know about your faith and your Bible.
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(10 hours ago)Lukongsimi Wrote:  23 years is not a miracle 
Something might be altered and written down as u can read some verses are damn funny 
Unbelievable

Show me one verse from the Quran that is "damn funny". Please do.
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(10 hours ago)pinkpanther Wrote:  No..Men wrote down the verbatim words of Muhammad

Correct man from man

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(10 hours ago)Ali Imran Wrote:  Show me one verse from the Quran that is "damn funny". Please do.

Where the sun sets in muddy water 
That means only set in muddy water not clear water?

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(11 hours ago)Ali Imran Wrote:  I don't question Allah. If you don't like it that Allah chooses not to tell us in detail, that doesn't make the Quran false.

If Allah doesn't explain in detail, that means we don't need to know in detail.

This is a significant piece of information concerning an incident where someone innocent was made to resemble and replace Jesus on the cross.....It is an important event because it is believed that Allah deceived certain individuals into thinking that Jesus was crucified.....Due to what is perceived as Allah's mistake, Christianity expanded and its followers became disbelievers.

Don't you think Allah owe us a detailed explanation through the Quran..
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(10 hours ago)Lukongsimi Wrote:  We Follow your foot steps lah

 I don't mock. I am very serious in almost all my postings. This is a very serious matter to me. I am very careful in my postings talking about the almighty God. I am very afraid I might say something false about God.

Once in a while, I will talk about other things less serious, like my wife cooking, for example. Btw, I dunno how to cook. I can only cook instant noodles.
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(10 hours ago)Ali Imran Wrote:  This thread has been going on for more than half a year, and I am still here, making both of you realize there are many things you don't know about your faith and your Bible.

This thread has been going on for more than half a year, and I am still here, making Hope and you realize there are many things you don't know about your faith and your Quran/ Hadiths.
Laughing
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(10 hours ago)pinkpanther Wrote:  This is a significant piece of information concerning an incident where someone innocent was made to resemble and replace Jesus on the cross.....It is an important event because it is believed that Allah deceived certain individuals into thinking that Jesus was crucified.....Due to what is perceived as Allah's mistake, Christianity expanded and its followers became disbelievers.

Don't you think Allah owe us a detailed explanation through the Quran..

Who told you that? Allah didn't say that in the Quran.
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(10 hours ago)pinkpanther Wrote:  This thread has been going on for more than half a year, and I am still here, making Hope and you realize there are many things you don't know about your faith and your Quran/ Hadiths.
Laughing

That's called mocking. LKSM take note.
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(10 hours ago)Lukongsimi Wrote:  Where the sun sets in muddy water 
That means only set in muddy water not clear water?

Allah tells us about a certain man who perceived the sun setting in a muddy spring.

When I'm at Changi beach, I see the sun setting on an island.
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(10 hours ago)Ali Imran Wrote:   I don't mock. I am very serious in almost all my postings. This is a very serious matter to me. I am very careful in my postings talking about the almighty God. I am very afraid I might say something false about God.

Once in a while, I will talk about other things less serious, like my wife cooking, for example. Btw, I dunno how to cook. I can only cook instant noodles.

Of course u deny lah 
How you blasphemy Jesus as only a man but He is the son of God and he is God 
I knew u don’t know how to cook
Cos u never mentioned what u cook
Your wife cooks what food u also no mention 
Must be simple food

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(10 hours ago)Ali Imran Wrote:  Allah tells us about a certain man who perceived the sun setting in a muddy spring.

When I'm at Changi beach, I see the sun setting on an island.

How about the 72 virgins isn’t this funny?

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(10 hours ago)Lukongsimi Wrote:  How about the 72 virgins isn’t this funny?

That is not in the Quran.
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(10 hours ago)Lukongsimi Wrote:  Of course u deny lah 
How you blasphemy Jesus as only a man but He is the son of God and he is God 
I knew u don’t know how to cook
Cos u never mentioned what u cook
Your wife cooks what food u also no mention 
Must be simple food

Is Jesus a man? Yes, you also believe Jesus is a man. So what I believe about Jesus is not wrong.

But yes, I don't believe a man is God.
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(10 hours ago)Ali Imran Wrote:  This thread has been going on for more than half a year, and I am still here, making both of you realize there are many things you don't know about your faith and your Bible.

U have been trying to make us fall from faith n to believe your mystery book 
No way u can do it 
Darkness cannot over come the light 
Only light can overcome the darkness

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(10 hours ago)Ali Imran Wrote:  Is Jesus a man? Yes, you also believe Jesus is a man. So what I believe about Jesus is not wrong.

But yes, I don't believe a man is God.

Besides Jesus which man can u name who was born of the Holy Spirit n from virgin u have not answer me in previous post 
Who can do miracles raise the dead heal the sick and forgive sins?
Resurrect and ascended into heaven with 500 eye witnesses ?
Of course u will
Deny it
Not even your muh who was a man

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(10 hours ago)Ali Imran Wrote:  Who told you that? Allah didn't say that in the Quran.

Again many English translations will say
Someone replaced Jesus on the cross.

Sahih International
And [for] their saying, "Indeed, we have killed the Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, the messenger of Allah ." And they did not kill him, nor did they crucify him; but [another] was made to resemble him to them. And indeed, those who differ over it are in doubt about it. They have no knowledge of it except the following of assumption. And they did not kill him, for certain.
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(10 hours ago)Ali Imran Wrote:  Is Jesus a man? Yes, you also believe Jesus is a man. So what I believe about Jesus is not wrong.

But yes, I don't believe a man is God.

God can appear as a man to Jacob and Abrahim..
Jibril can take on human form
But it is unbefitting on Allah to take on human body Big Grin
This shows Allah is not all powerful...He cares too much for His face/pride
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