Scripture readings for Christmas

(Yesterday, 02:21 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  So the Romans picked the wrong man to crucify. Why would you blame Allah for that?

And how is the Quran lying?

The Romans didn’t picked the wrong man 
Your Koran hid the truth

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(Yesterday, 02:26 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Of cos not...you fellows did something against God and still expect God to bless Islam? No wonder Allah doesnt respond to your prayers....The jews are ignorance because they don believe in Christ but the moslems are ungrateful because they killed their prophet's family ....who wants to help a moslem if they will turn back to take your life later? The moslems have proved it by taking the lives of Muhammad's family..

Who told you that I killed the prophet's family?
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(Yesterday, 02:07 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Whose words are those in John 3:16?

Inspired by God for the author to write it down

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(Yesterday, 02:27 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  The Romans didn’t picked the wrong man 
Your Koran hid the truth

According to the interpreter of that verse you chose, the Romans picked the wrong man.

If that is true, we cannot blame Allah for their mistake.
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(Yesterday, 02:30 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  Inspired by God for the author to write it down

Did the author said he was inspired by God?
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(Yesterday, 02:29 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Who told you that I killed the prophet's family?
Your ancestors from same religion

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(Yesterday, 02:31 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Did the author said he was inspired by God?

U think the author can anyhow write ?

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(Yesterday, 02:31 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  Your ancestors from same religion

Didn't Ezekiel taught you that the son shall not inherit the sin of the father?
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(Yesterday, 02:32 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  U think the author can anyhow write ?

Did the author say he was inspired by God?
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(Yesterday, 02:31 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  According to the interpreter of that verse you chose, the Romans picked the wrong man.

If that is true, we cannot blame Allah for their mistake.

Don’t argue lah
Your Koran manipulated the Bible 
And u only believe never check properly

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(Yesterday, 02:33 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Did the author say he was inspired by God?
Are u blind can’t see my answer ?

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(Yesterday, 02:26 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  So salvation is to repent and make amends.

I agree.

Zaccaeus was a tax-collector for the Romans lah! Big Grin He was a Jew collecting tax for the Romans who oppressed the Jews so they all hated him lah! When he saw Jesus and He called him to come down from the tree, that moment he was saved lah! Then he opened his house to serve Jesus and His disciples lah! Zaccaeus promised to return all the money he had squeezed from his Jewish people and pay back 4 times those he had owed lah! From his actions he's proven to have repented and turned a new leaf lah!
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(Yesterday, 02:29 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Who told you that I killed the prophet's family?

A fate same as the Amalekites....I wouldn't want to join a religion where its own followers murdered its own prophet's family... I will not join to show my support ..lastly I do not wish to incur God's wrath . Big Grin
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(Yesterday, 02:32 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Didn't Ezekiel taught you that the son shall not inherit the sin of the father?
The father means your own father not from Adam

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(Yesterday, 02:36 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  A fate same as the Amalekites....I wouldn't want to join a religion where its own followers murdered its own prophet's family... I will not join to show my support ..lastly I do not wish to incur God's wrath . Big Grin

Ya kena cursed for no reason. 
Better don’t lol

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(Yesterday, 02:34 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  Don’t argue lah
Your Koran manipulated the Bible 
And u only believe never check properly

We believe the Quran is the authority over previous scriptures.
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(Yesterday, 02:35 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  Are u blind can’t see my answer ?

You didn't answer the question.

Did the author say he was inspired by God?

The answer is no, the author didn't say he was inspired by God.
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(Yesterday, 02:36 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  A fate same as the Amalekites....I wouldn't want to join a religion where its own followers murdered its own prophet's family... I will not join to show my support ..lastly I do not wish to incur God's wrath . Big Grin

In the case of the Amalekites, would you say God is unjust for punishing the people who were not responsible for the crimes of their forefathers?
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(Yesterday, 02:35 PM)cheekopekman Wrote:  Zaccaeus was a tax-collector for the Romans lah! Big Grin He was a Jew collecting tax for the Romans who oppressed the Jews so they all hated him lah! When he saw Jesus and He called him to come down from the tree, that moment he was saved lah! Then he opened his house to serve Jesus and His disciples lah! Zaccaeus promised to return all the money he had squeezed from his Jewish people and pay back 4 times those he had owed lah! From his actions he's proven to have repented and turned a new leaf lah!

Yes, I read that the same way.

So Zacchaeus attained salvation by repenting and amending his ways, as I've said earlier.
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(Yesterday, 02:38 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  The father means your own father not from Adam

So why do you believe Adam's own son inherited the sin of his father?
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(Yesterday, 03:03 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  So why do you believe Adam's own son inherited the sin of his father?
Why the two sons Cain and Abel one was banished
One was killed by his brother Cain?

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(Yesterday, 03:00 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  In the case of the Amalekites, would you say God is unjust for punishing the people who were not responsible for the crimes of their forefathers?

Because of Saul’s failure to wipe out the Amalekites, they continued to harass and plunder the Israelites over hundreds of years..
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(Yesterday, 03:01 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Yes, I read that the same way.

So Zacchaeus attained salvation by repenting and amending his ways, as I've said earlier.
Not only repenting
Jesus went to his house n grant him salvation

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(Yesterday, 02:57 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  You didn't answer the question.

Did the author say he was inspired by God?

The answer is no, the author didn't say he was inspired by God.

U think author can anyhow agak like u do?

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(Yesterday, 02:05 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Do they uphold the Shariah?

Shariah is part of their legal system...there are many Islamic countries without shariah ...there is indeed no unison in Islam.. all suka suka lah
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(Yesterday, 01:08 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Either the Muslim scholars' exegesis of the Quran is right, or you are right. Which one?

Which moslem scholars exegesis best represent Muhammad? Big Grin

So we can all agree that no one knows exactly what Muhammad is saying...if no one knows then the Quran cannot be God's words..thank you  Laughing
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Yes, Saul failed to completely destroy the Amalekites as God commanded. While Saul did defeat the Amalekites in battle, he spared their king, Agag, and kept the best of their livestock, disobeying God's direct order to utterly destroy them. This disobedience led to God rejecting Saul as king. 

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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Why did God want all the Amalekites destroyed?

It was their implacable stance against the Jews, coupled with their practice of sacrificing children to false gods(Deuteronomy 12:31) that resulted in God condemning them to total annihilation (1 Samuel 15:1-3).

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(Yesterday, 04:09 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  Why did God want all the Amalekites destroyed?

It was their implacable stance against the Jews, coupled with their practice of sacrificing children to false gods(Deuteronomy 12:31) that resulted in God condemning them to total annihilation (1 Samuel 15:1-3).

They did evil in God's sight lah! Big Grin
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UIn Christian theology, while Adam's sin (often referred to as original sin) has a profound impact on all humanity, it is not accurate to say that we are directly blamed for Adam's sin in the sense of being held morally accountable for his actions. Instead, the concept of original sin suggests that Adam's transgression introduced sin and its consequences (including death) into the world, affecting all of humanity. We are held responsible for our own sins, but also inherit a sinful nature due to Adam's actions

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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