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The claim that a sheep ate parts of the Quran is based on a specific hadith (a narration about the Prophet Muhammad) that describes a tame sheep eating a page containing verses about stoning and breastfeeding an adult. This hadith is not considered universally accepted or reliable by all Muslims, and some scholars attribute the mention of the sheep to a single narrator with questionable reliability.
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The Quran is not preserved and is corrupted
The famous statement and belief is that “Allah” wrote the Quran. But did Allah truly write the Quran or was it revealed to Muhammad who was incapable of writing the Quran. It was actually revealed in 7 dialects from Allah because certain tribes or groups didn’t know how to speak the other dialects. Therefore, the different lands had different preservations and memorizations of the Quran which is why after Muhammad died (which is when Qurans started being written), muslims were at disagreement and war with each other. Muslims we’re calling other muslims disbelievers because they believed in a different Quran.
If the different Qurans say the same, why would they feel the need to call other ones disbelievers.. the differences had to be great, which I have examples. But back to the history, Caliph Uthman decided out of his own will (not Allah’s or Muhammad’s order) to destroy the other Allah Given Qurans by burning them (sin) and he chose a council of muslims (some were companions of Muhammad) and re created a standardized Quran. Not the original, but his version. Remember, Muhammad told these companions different versions of the Quran so many did disagree yet we are still here to believe that there is only one Quran, when actuality, there is more than 26 Qurans in Arabic where the words are changed, which changes the meaning.
So I ask again, is the Quran today actually Allah’s word, or is it corrupted like every religion is supposedly. Let’s not forget sheep ate pages. Others were lost.
And to debunk this theory, if they memorized it perfectly, which lets say they did.. Allah sent 7 dialects. Muhammad taught different versions. If they were the same, why would one muslim feel to call others disbelievers ? Why would Uthman feel the need to make HIS OWN PERSONAL QURAN WITHOUT DIVINE REVELATION or COMMAND ?
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(Yesterday, 09:27 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote: The Quran is not preserved and is corrupted
The famous statement and belief is that “Allah” wrote the Quran. But did Allah truly write the Quran or was it revealed to Muhammad who was incapable of writing the Quran. It was actually revealed in 7 dialects from Allah because certain tribes or groups didn’t know how to speak the other dialects. Therefore, the different lands had different preservations and memorizations of the Quran which is why after Muhammad died (which is when Qurans started being written), muslims were at disagreement and war with each other. Muslims we’re calling other muslims disbelievers because they believed in a different Quran.
If the different Qurans say the same, why would they feel the need to call other ones disbelievers.. the differences had to be great, which I have examples. But back to the history, Caliph Uthman decided out of his own will (not Allah’s or Muhammad’s order) to destroy the other Allah Given Qurans by burning them (sin) and he chose a council of muslims (some were companions of Muhammad) and re created a standardized Quran. Not the original, but his version. Remember, Muhammad told these companions different versions of the Quran so many did disagree yet we are still here to believe that there is only one Quran, when actuality, there is more than 26 Qurans in Arabic where the words are changed, which changes the meaning.
So I ask again, is the Quran today actually Allah’s word, or is it corrupted like every religion is supposedly. Let’s not forget sheep ate pages. Others were lost.
And to debunk this theory, if they memorized it perfectly, which lets say they did.. Allah sent 7 dialects. Muhammad taught different versions. If they were the same, why would one muslim feel to call others disbelievers ? Why would Uthman feel the need to make HIS OWN PERSONAL QURAN WITHOUT DIVINE REVELATION or COMMAND ?
Wah..the Quran is corrupted
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Omar ibn Said – writer and scholar of Islam, enslaved and deported from present-day Senegal to the United States in 1807, formally converted to Christianity in 1820
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Wow!
there are reports and studies indicating a notable number of Muslims, including individuals who were imams or held other religious leadership positions, converting to Christianity. A study by David Garrison suggests that millions of Muslims have converted to Christianity in recent decades. Additionally, some individuals who were raised Muslim, including those with religious leadership roles, have converted to other faiths or become non-religious.
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- Turan Dursun:
A Turkish author and former Shia Muslim cleric who became an atheist after studying the history of monotheistic religions.
- Abdullah al-Qasemi:
An Arab intellectual who famously converted from defending Salafism to atheism.
- Afshin Ellian:
An Iranian-Dutch professor of law, philosopher, and poet who is also a former Muslim.
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2 Timothy 3:16 NLT
2 Timothy 3:16 NLT. All Scripture is inspired by God and is useful to teach us what is true and to make us realize what is wrong in our lives. It corrects us when we are wrong and teaches us to do what is right.
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https://youtu.be/dDAMvTWZseo
Iran turning to Jesus by the millions wow!
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(Yesterday, 10:40 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote: https://youtu.be/dDAMvTWZseo
Iran turning to Jesus by the millions wow!
Every knee shall bow and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord lah!
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(Yesterday, 10:01 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote: 2 Timothy 3:16 NLT
2 Timothy 3:16 NLT. All Scripture is inspired by God and is useful to teach us what is true and to make us realize what is wrong in our lives. It corrects us when we are wrong and teaches us to do what is right.
So Paul didn't say the Bible is God's word.
Btw, when Paul wrote that, the Gospels you have were not written yet. So Paul wasn't referring to the Gospels.
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(Yesterday, 10:40 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote: Iran turning to Jesus by the millions wow!
We are supposed to trust a Christian website?
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(Yesterday, 09:09 PM)pinkpanther Wrote: You already showed him that the Bible is uncorrupted from Bible scholars and moslem Scholars but he can simply forget!
Can you tell me which Gospel has the correct words of Jesus between Mark and Matthew, as I've shown you?
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(Yesterday, 09:08 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote: U want proof but u can’t provide it
I've already given you the proof. Most Bibles have already thrown out that Trinity verse.
Why are you still stubborn?
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(Yesterday, 07:50 PM)pinkpanther Wrote: Oh if you have the commentary of your prophet then there is no need for other scholars to add in their own interpretations isnt it...are they inspired by Allah? If they are inspired...why do they hold different views..

Why are you so arrogant to think that you know better than the Muslims about our own scriptures?
Have you read thru the hundreds of thousands of Hadith?
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(Yesterday, 07:50 PM)pinkpanther Wrote: When Allah says He is one...that does not need any commentary..it is clear..Did Muhammad in the Shahada or in his prayers send blessings to himself?
maybe you can explain 
Allah commanded us to send blessings to the prophet صلي الله عليه وسلم.
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(Yesterday, 08:06 PM)pinkpanther Wrote: You can google image, footnote 1 John 5-7
Why don't you explain to me if the footnote made what I've said false?
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(Yesterday, 08:21 PM)pinkpanther Wrote: the hadith (sayings and actions of the Prophet Muhammad) are essential for understanding and applying the Quran's teachings in daily life...
We do not believe the Hadiths because it came 300 years after the death of Muhammad and there are many fake Hadiths around....it is corrupted...so you cannot understand the Quran without an uncorrupted Hadith..
Muhammad says not to believe in any books that are altered lol
Feel free to disbelieve in our scriptures.
As for us, we have extensive records of the Hadith. We know which ones are authentic, which ones are weak, which ones are fabricated.
As for the Gospels, if they were to be put through the same rigorous test we put our Hadith through, the Gospels would ALL be categorized as weak.
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(Yesterday, 09:27 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote: The Quran is not preserved and is corrupted
The famous statement and belief is that “Allah” wrote the Quran. But did Allah truly write the Quran or was it revealed to Muhammad who was incapable of writing the Quran. It was actually revealed in 7 dialects from Allah because certain tribes or groups didn’t know how to speak the other dialects. Therefore, the different lands had different preservations and memorizations of the Quran which is why after Muhammad died (which is when Qurans started being written), muslims were at disagreement and war with each other. Muslims we’re calling other muslims disbelievers because they believed in a different Quran.
If the different Qurans say the same, why would they feel the need to call other ones disbelievers.. the differences had to be great, which I have examples. But back to the history, Caliph Uthman decided out of his own will (not Allah’s or Muhammad’s order) to destroy the other Allah Given Qurans by burning them (sin) and he chose a council of muslims (some were companions of Muhammad) and re created a standardized Quran. Not the original, but his version. Remember, Muhammad told these companions different versions of the Quran so many did disagree yet we are still here to believe that there is only one Quran, when actuality, there is more than 26 Qurans in Arabic where the words are changed, which changes the meaning.
So I ask again, is the Quran today actually Allah’s word, or is it corrupted like every religion is supposedly. Let’s not forget sheep ate pages. Others were lost.
And to debunk this theory, if they memorized it perfectly, which lets say they did.. Allah sent 7 dialects. Muhammad taught different versions. If they were the same, why would one muslim feel to call others disbelievers ? Why would Uthman feel the need to make HIS OWN PERSONAL QURAN WITHOUT DIVINE REVELATION or COMMAND ?
Why do you take other people's writings and post them as though you wrote them?
That is dishonest.
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(Today, 07:42 AM)Ali Imran Wrote: Feel free to disbelieve in our scriptures.
As for us, we have extensive records of the Hadith. We know which ones are authentic, which ones are weak, which ones are fabricated.
As for the Gospels, if they were to be put through the same rigorous test we put our Hadith through, the Gospels would ALL be categorized as weak.
Your Hadiths are corrupted and fabricated..we do not trust them ...it is no longer good!
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(Today, 07:51 AM)pinkpanther Wrote: Your Hadiths are corrupted and fabricated..we do not trust them ...it is no longer good!
Like I've said, feel free to disbelieve our Hadith.
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(Today, 07:15 AM)Ali Imran Wrote: So Paul didn't say the Bible is God's word.
Btw, when Paul wrote that, the Gospels you have were not written yet. So Paul wasn't referring to the Gospels.
Why u still parroting
U like to be a bird ?
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(Today, 08:01 AM)Lukongsimi Wrote: Why u still parroting
U like to be a bird ?
Obviously, you don't know what is parroting.
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(Today, 07:46 AM)UAli Imran Wrote: Why do you take other people's writings and post them as though you wrote them?
That is dishonest.
Did I say I wrote myself ?
Goggle told the truth n u hurts badly n offended
Lol
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(Today, 08:02 AM)Ali Imran Wrote: Obviously, you don't know what is parroting.
U Old n nagging
Nothing else
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(Today, 08:02 AM)Lukongsimi Wrote: Did I say I wrote myself ?
Goggle told the truth n u hurts badly n offended
Lol
If you didn't write it, please let us know who wrote it. Give us the links where you copied it from.
Don't make it look like you wrote it.
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(Today, 07:53 AM)Ali Imran Wrote: Like I've said, feel free to disbelieve our Hadith.
Means your Hadith is corrupted lol
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(Today, 08:04 AM)Ali Imran Wrote: If you didn't write it, please let us know who wrote it. Give us the links where you copied it from.
Don't make it look like you wrote it.
Use your brain if u have one
Someone who knows best about your religion lol
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