[pinkpanther]

Not only are you arrogant in your ways, thinking you know better than the Muslims about Islam, but you also like to mock us.

Astaghfirullah, I think you must be mistaken once again  ..I'm only asking important questions about your faith...Allah says this

“Whoever said something about the Quran (without knowledge) using his own opinions, then prepare himself of his place in hellfire”

Sunan Al-Tarmizi (2951)

Hello...while Allah allows you to interpret the Quran using your own opinions, it also curses you for getting it wrong..   I think it is safer to be a hafiz!

[Hope]

https://youtu.be/DZzd1Z8RynA?si=KE-GS7v-_iQ9Yfok

[pinkpanther]

Not only are you arrogant in your ways, thinking you know better than the Muslims about Islam, but you also like to mock us.

Should Muslims Levy an Extra Tax on Non-Muslims?

Verse 9:29 is mistranslated by almost every translator. Shakir translates the Arabic word jizya as “tax,” Pickthall as “tribute.” Yusuf Ali, somehow does not translate the word at all. He leaves the meaning of the word at the mercy of distortions:

! Disputed passage: The meaning of the Arabic word jizya (reparation/compensation) has been distorted to mean extra tax for non-Muslims.

[Lukongsimi]

Should Muslims Levy an Extra Tax on Non-Muslims?

Verse 9:29 is mistranslated by almost every translator. Shakir translates the Arabic word jizya as “tax,” Pickthall as “tribute.” Yusuf Ali, somehow does not translate the word at all. He leaves the meaning of the word at the mercy of distortions:

! Disputed passage: The meaning of the Arabic word jizya (reparation/compensation) has been distorted to mean extra tax for non-Muslims.

 Govt should have it banned

[pinkpanther]

https://youtu.be/DZzd1Z8RynA?si=KE-GS7v-_iQ9Yfok  

Habibi...Allah Subhanahu wa ta'ala blessed Israel! Alhamdulilah!

I like saying Alhamdulilah these days...it is very catchy!

[Hope]

https://youtu.be/HMAt20TUh84?si=YD8DIvEFi955waQI

[Hope]

Habibi...Allah Subhanahu wa ta'ala blessed Israel! Alhamdulilah!

I like saying Alhamdulilah these days...it is very catchy!

https://youtu.be/wOLWbx7l-gI?si=Q9g9O-AY0IWGH1a3

https://youtu.be/7kz_WepK_xM?si=prxNwdsTrO8zJhn_

https://youtu.be/kvmTDuQ__F4?si=mwQ95OD7epg1HVD7

https://youtu.be/6XvzikP4S8c?si=ZMINzaL692jn-yQW

[pinkpanther]

https://youtu.be/wOLWbx7l-gI?si=Q9g9O-AY0IWGH1a3

https://youtu.be/7kz_WepK_xM?si=prxNwdsTrO8zJhn_

https://youtu.be/kvmTDuQ__F4?si=mwQ95OD7epg1HVD7

https://youtu.be/6XvzikP4S8c?si=ZMINzaL692jn-yQW

Alhamdulilah ! Israel defeated five invading Arab nations: Egypt, Jordan, Syria, Iraq, and Lebanon in 1948...do you think Allah Subhanahu wa ta'ala is on the Israelis side?

[Ali Imran]

"Whoever interprets and comments on the Quran using his own opinions, if his commentaries are right, he will be rewarded. However, if his commentaries are wrong, he will lose the light in his heart.”

Hello...the Quran should be a guidance to mankind ...how did it allow mankind to interpret on their own?

Islam is Tawhid in God is one but when it comes to the Quranic verses...it is not Tawhid meaning the message is not one, there is no unity..plenty of interpretations...why did Allah subject his messages through so many interpretations...

Tawhid should be Allah is one, the message is one....then everyone is clear..only Satan will confuse you with so many interpretations

Astaghfirullah

When Allah says in verse 112:1 that He is one, all Muslims understand it the same.

When Allah says in verse 2:183 that we are to fast in Ramadan, all Muslims understand it the same.

When Allah says in verse 21:35 that we all will taste death, all Muslims understand it the same.

When Allah says in verse 18:4 that the Quran is a warning to those who say Allah has a son, all Muslims understand it the same.

I can go on and on, but I'm sure you're getting the message. So, please keep your disbelief to yourself and don't impose it on us.

[Ali Imran]

 Govt should have it banned

If the Christians were to follow the Bible as they should, there would be many parts where most governments would ban the Christians, like the law that says the victim of rape must marry the rapist.

As for Jizya, it is a very just law. Many people in Singapore, regardless of religion, would be happy if our government institutes a similar form of tax on us, where we don't have to serve NS if we pay a special tax.

[Ali Imran]

Astaghfirullah, I think you must be mistaken once again  ..I'm only asking important questions about your faith...Allah says this

You have been mocking all along, for so long already. When you cannot argue to defend the incoherence of your faith, you will turn the tables on us, pretending that you understand a Hadith or the Quran when you misunderstood it, and then mock us with your misunderstanding.

I understand you don't really believe in the afterlife. If you do, you would worry for your children, and you would want to make sure you have the correct faith for them to follow.

[pinkpanther]

When Allah says in verse 112:1 that He is one, all Muslims understand it the same.

When Allah says in verse 2:183 that we are to fast in Ramadan, all Muslims understand it the same.

When Allah says in verse 21:35 that we all will taste death, all Muslims understand it the same.

When Allah says in verse 18:4 that the Quran is a warning to those who say Allah has a son, all Muslims understand it the same.

I can go on and on, but I'm sure you're getting the message. So, please keep your disbelief to yourself and don't impose it on us.

These are simple and clear cụt messages...do you still need an interpretation? You know there are many verses and they can be very complex....but you chose to pick those simple ones to show me ...do you think I'm a 7 years old just like you?

[pinkpanther]

You have been mocking all along, for so long already. When you cannot argue to defend the incoherence of your faith, you will turn the tables on us, pretending that you understand a Hadith or the Quran when you misunderstood it, and then mock us with your misunderstanding.

I understand you don't really believe in the afterlife. If you do, you would worry for your children, and you would want to make sure you have the correct faith for them to follow.

The same argument can be use to rebut you..

You have been mocking all along, for so long already. When you cannot argue to defend the incoherence of your faith, you will turn the tables on us, pretending that you understand a Blibical verse when you misunderstood it, and then mock us with your misunderstanding.

I understand you believe in a temporary jahannam..If you do, you would not worry for your children, and you would want to make sure you have the correct faith...

Hell is eternal never temporary

[Ali Imran]

The same argument can be use to rebut you..

You have been mocking all along, for so long already. When you cannot argue to defend the incoherence of your faith, you will turn the tables on us, pretending that you understand a Blibical verse when you misunderstood it, and then mock us with your misunderstanding.

I understand you believe in a temporary jahannam..If you do, you would not worry for your children, and you would want to make sure you have the correct faith...Hell is eternal!

And when you can no longer argue, you will start parroting.

[pinkpanther]

If the Christians were to follow the Bible as they should, there would be many parts where most governments would ban the Christians, like the law that says the victim of rape must marry the rapist.

As for Jizya, it is a very just law. Many people in Singapore, regardless of religion, would be happy if our government institutes a similar form of tax on us, where we don't have to serve NS if we pay a special tax.

I think the main context is the mistranslation of the Quran about Jizya ...it has nothing to do with Singapore

Should Muslims Levy an Extra Tax on Non-Muslims?

Verse 9:29 is mistranslated by almost every translator. Shakir translates the Arabic word jizya as “tax,” Pickthall as “tribute.” Yusuf Ali, somehow does not translate the word at all. He leaves the meaning of the word at the mercy of distortions:

! Disputed passage: The meaning of the Arabic word jizya (reparation/compensation) has been distorted to mean extra tax for non-Muslims.

[Ali Imran]

These are simple and clear cụt messages...do you still need an interpretation? You know there are many verses and they can be very complex....but you chose to pick those simple ones to show me ...do you think I'm a 7 years old just like you?

Allah says in the Quran that there are clear-cut verses and there are esoteric verses. Those who want to mislead will choose the esoteric verses and mock us with it.

Allah tells us about you, 1,400+ years ago.

[Ali Imran]

I think the main context is the mistranslation of the Quran about Jizya ...it has nothing to do with Singapore

Should Muslims Levy an Extra Tax on Non-Muslims?

Verse 9:29 is mistranslated by almost every translator. Shakir translates the Arabic word jizya as “tax,” Pickthall as “tribute.” Yusuf Ali, somehow does not translate the word at all. He leaves the meaning of the word at the mercy of distortions:

! Disputed passage: The meaning of the Arabic word jizya (reparation/compensation) has been distorted to mean extra tax for non-Muslims.

Did the Muslim government failed to institute Jizya? No they didn't.

However you want to perceive the tax or tribute, that's up to you.

[pinkpanther]

Allah says in the Quran that there are clear-cut verses and there are esoteric verses. Those who want to mislead will choose the esoteric verses and mock us with it.

Allah tells us about you, 1,400+ years ago.

How can you judge if I'm misleading you? On what basis? Clearly I am of no fault if I'm properly guided by the commentary of Muhammad...

The Quran comes as a guidance for mankind , encourage me to think and interpret on my own...but curses and condemn mẹ to hell if I get it wrong..

Is Allah just and merciful after all? Pehaps not!

[Ali Imran]

How can you judge if I'm misleading you? On what basis? Clearly I am of no fault if I'm properly guided by the commentary of Muhammad...

The Quran comes as a guidance for mankind , encourage me to think and interpret on my own...but curses and condemn mẹ to hell if I get it wrong..

Is Allah just and merciful after all? Pehaps not!

Again, you're using your misunderstanding to judge our religion.

What is unjust, in any judicial system, is taking the life of an innocent man for the crime of others, which is what you believe God did. And also, making the children guilty of the crime their forefathers did, which is what you believe God did.

[pinkpanther]

Did the Muslim government failed to institute Jizya? No they didn't.

However you want to perceive the tax or tribute, that's up to you.

I am not here to argue the context..I argued that the texts are mistranslated...so there are errors in your Quran...is it a corruption?

[Ali Imran]

I am not here to argue the context..I argued that the texts are mistranslated...so there are errors in your Quran...is it a corruption?

You misunderstood the Quran and then you say the Quran has errors, and is corrupted.

You don't even know what is corruption in the scriptures.

[Ali Imran]

A corruption in the scripture is when someone added, deleted, or edited the original writings of the author.

[pinkpanther]

Again, you're using your misunderstanding to judge our religion.

What is unjust, in any judicial system, is taking the life of an innocent man for the crime of others, which is what you believe God did. And also, making the children guilty of the crime their forefathers did, which is what you believe God did.

No..if you believe your God is the same God as the jews..then He is indeed responsible for the death of the innocent as well...Wallahu a'lam

[Ali Imran]

No..if you believe your God is the same God as the jews..then He is indeed responsible for the death of the innocent as well...Wallahu a'lam

I believe there is only 1 God. The God that Jesus worships, is the same God I worship.

But I don't believe God commands killing innocent people. You believe that. So don't impose your belief on us.

[pinkpanther]

You misunderstood the Quran and then you say the Quran has errors, and is corrupted.

You don't even know what is corruption in the scriptures.

I misunderstood the Quran?   the verse has been mistranslated, if it is mistranslated then it is the moslem scholars who are misleading the readers!! Should they go to Jahannam as Allah promise?

Should you follow them to Jahannam since you follow their views?

[Ali Imran]

I misunderstood the Quran?   the verse has been mistranslated, if it is mistranslated then it is the moslem scholars who are misleading the readers!! Should they go to Jahannam as Allah promise?

Should you follow them to Jahannam since you follow their views?

Who told you the verse is mistranslated? I don't see any mistranslation. So please don't impose your foolishness on us.

[pinkpanther]

I believe there is only 1 God. The God that Jesus worships, is the same God I worship.

But I don't believe God commands killing innocent people. You believe that. So don't impose your belief on us.

The God that Jesus worshiped as a man is the same God who appears in the Old Testament...

Are you saying it is 2 separate Gods...
Don confuse yourself and the readers!

[pinkpanther]

Who told you the verse is mistranslated? I don't see any mistranslation. So please don't impose your foolishness on us.

Your Scholars say it!!  so are you better than them?

Verse 9:29 is mistranslated by almost every translator. Shakir translates the Arabic word jizya as “tax,” Pickthall as “tribute.” Yusuf Ali, somehow does not translate the word at all. He leaves the meaning of the word at the mercy of distortions:

[Ali Imran]

The God that Jesus worshiped as a man is the same God who appears in the Old Testament...

Are you saying it is 2 separate Gods...
Don confuse yourself and the readers!

I'm saying I don't trust the OT. 

Allah says men have tampered the OT, forging verses and making it look like they are from God.

Btw, it's called corruption of the scriptures.

[Ali Imran]

Your Scholars say it!!  so are you better than them?

Verse 9:29 is mistranslated by almost every translator. Shakir translates the Arabic word jizya as “tax,” Pickthall as “tribute.” Yusuf Ali, somehow does not translate the word at all. He leaves the meaning of the word at the mercy of distortions:

Both are acceptable.