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(12-07-2025, 01:12 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:
shooting in the knees!! So no deaths lah...the Palestinians threw stones and killed the Israelis!!
Throwing stones killed Israelis? Show me how.
Anyhow, it is noteworthy that the Palestinians are fighting their invaders with all they have, even if it is just stones.
That's like David, fighting Goliath.
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(12-07-2025, 01:10 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: You mean the charity body in the UK is misleading its readers by saying that Muslims are the most charitable people?
Really?
Who knows what the actual agenda is? The new CEO could be Moslem... Can you believe an article based on a sample of 1,000 Moslems, which accounts for less than 1% of the Moslem population in the UK? It's unreasonable to draw conclusions from such a small and unrepresentative sample. Believing that would be misleading readers, as it doesn't reflect the majority or the truth.
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(12-07-2025, 01:10 PM)pinkpanther Wrote: It appears that some believe Allah Subhanahu wa ta'ala has caused His Arab followers to become cowards since 1948
... or perhaps they think that the land has been allocated to the Israelis, leading them to feel reluctant to oppose Allah's decree....
So you are also free to anyhow interpret your Quran.. 
The Quran in 5:20-21 says that Allah gave the Holy Land (Israel) to the Jews. How is it that Moslems like you don't know this? 
Did the Bible say that God's promise of a homeland for the Israelites came with a condition? Yes.
Did the Israelites break the condition?
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(12-07-2025, 01:17 PM)pinkpanther Wrote: Who knows what the actual agenda is? The new CEO could be Moslem... Can you believe an article based on a sample of 1,000 Moslems, which accounts for less than 1% of the Moslem population in the UK? It's unreasonable to draw conclusions from such a small and unrepresentative sample. Believing that would be misleading readers, as it doesn't reflect the majority or the truth.
Now you're saying they have an agenda to lie to the public. What a heinous accusation coming from you.
Are they as ill-informed as you to give such a headline by sampling 1,000 Muslims?
Btw, below is the chief of that charity body.
https://www.charitytoday.co.uk/lee-b-rayment/
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(12-07-2025, 01:15 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: Throwing stones killed Israelis? Show me how.
Anyhow, it is noteworthy that the Palestinians are fighting their invaders with all they have, even if it is just stones.
That's like David, fighting Goliath.
At least 14 Israelis have been killed by Palestinian stone throwing, including three Arabs mistaken for Jews.[18] It has occasionally been imitated by activists among the Arab citizens of Israel.[11] In many occasions IDF uses Palestinian civilians as human shields, including children,[19] against Palestinian protesters throwing rocks.
Why are you so proud of Palestinian protesters? If they don initiate violence...the israelis won't shoot back
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(12-07-2025, 01:23 PM)pinkpanther Wrote: At least 14 Israelis have been killed by Palestinian stone throwing, including three Arabs mistaken for Jews.[18] It has occasionally been imitated by activists among the Arab citizens of Israel.[11] In many occasions IDF uses Palestinian civilians as human shields, including children,[19] against Palestinian protesters throwing rocks.
Why are you so proud of Palestinian protesters? If they don initiate violence...the israelis won't shoot back
If the Jews didn't steal their land and their homes, kill their parents, and jail their brothers, the Palestinians wouldn't fight them.
Yes, I am proud of the Palestinian civilians. They don't surrender despite the overwhelming firepower against them. They are not afraid.
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(12-07-2025, 01:22 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: Now you're saying they have an agenda to lie to the public. What a heinous accusation coming from you.
Are they as ill-informed as you to give such a headline by sampling 1,000 Muslims?
Btw, below is the chief of that charity body.
https://www.charitytoday.co.uk/lee-b-rayment/
If you want people to take your organization seriously, it's best to present the truth as accurately as possible. With a sample size of 1,000 Moslems, releasing a biased or skewed statement is misleading. Who are you kidding? Only you would endorse a biased statistical article.
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(12-07-2025, 01:27 PM)pinkpanther Wrote: If you want people to take your organization seriously, it's best to present the truth as accurately as possible. With a sample size of 1,000 Moslems, releasing a biased or skewed statement is misleading. Who are you kidding? Only you would endorse a biased statistical article.
LOL
You're smarter than all the statisticians in Pew Research and all others who use sampling to determine the picture.
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(12-07-2025, 01:25 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: If the Jews didn't steal their land and their homes, kill their parents, and jail their brothers, the Palestinians wouldn't fight them.
Yes, I am proud of the Palestinian civilians. They don't surrender despite the overwhelming firepower against them. They are not afraid.
You mean Hamas are angels? They didnt kill women and children? They have disgraced Islam..they put the Palestinians in this plight...It is Allah's will to see the sufferings go on forever ..
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(12-07-2025, 01:34 PM)pinkpanther Wrote: You mean Hamas are angels? They didnt kill women and children? They have disgraced Islam..they put the Palestinians in this plight...It is Allah's will to see the sufferings go on forever ..
Did I say Hamas or Palestinian civilians? LOL
Now you want to blame God for the evil doings of the Jews.
You are really desperate.
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(12-07-2025, 01:29 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: LOL
You're smarter than all the statisticians in Pew Research and all others who use sampling to determine the picture.
You are not showing me that the statistics of your article is backed by a reliable agency...
Are you truly so naive to believe in the validity of a small sample size? For example, you could go to Israel and ask 50 people their opinions about Islam. If all 50 agree that Islam is a religion of violence, would you support that statistic? Do you realize how foolish your argument is when a small sample doesn't accurately represent the majority?
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(12-07-2025, 01:35 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: Did I say Hamas or Palestinian civilians? LOL
Now you want to blame God for the evil doings of the Jews.
You are really desperate.

I don blame the Blibical God...because these 2 groups are disbelivers...God knows what is best for them
If these are the acts of the islamic God then yes, he is not merciful and he allows genocide to take place..he shows me that his arab followers are mostly fence sitters
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(12-07-2025, 01:38 PM)pinkpanther Wrote: You are not showing me that the statistics of your article is backed by a reliable agency...
Are you truly so naive to believe in the validity of a small sample size? For example, you could go to Israel and ask 50 people their opinions about Islam. If all 50 agree that Islam is a religion of violence, would you support that statistic? Do you realize how foolish your argument is when a small sample doesn't accurately represent the majority?
If you think you're smarter than the statisticians, go ahead and say whatever you want to say.
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(12-07-2025, 01:43 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:
I don blame the Blibical God...because these 2 groups are disbelivers...God knows what is best for them
If these are the acts of the islamic God then yes, he is not merciful and he allows genocide to take place..he shows me that his arab followers are mostly fence sitters 
Yes, the 2 groups both don't believe a man is God, ergo disbeliever to you.
You can go ahead and believe a man who eats and sleeps is God.
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(12-07-2025, 01:48 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: If you think you're smarter than the statisticians, go ahead and say whatever you want to say.
If you believe that a small sample size represent the majority then you can go ahead...
Majority always win! You are telling me to believe in that less than 1% of the moslem population...do you not find it amusing?
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(12-07-2025, 01:49 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: Yes, the 2 groups both don't believe a man is God, ergo disbeliever to you.
You can go ahead and believe a man who eats and sleeps is God.
Alright, in that case, these two groups can continue to face God's wrath.
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(12-07-2025, 01:54 PM)pinkpanther Wrote: If you believe that a small sample size represent the majority then you can go ahead...
Majority always win! You are telling me to believe in that less than 1% of the moslem population...do you not find it amusing? 
Yeah. Pew Research is wrong. That charity organisation is wrong. The guy who didn't know Paul was quoting the OT is right.
Lol
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(12-07-2025, 02:28 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: Yeah. Pew Research is wrong. That charity organisation is wrong. The guy who didn't know Paul was quoting the OT is right.
Lol
When you can no longer rebuke.. you tend to repeat the same point.. Next time if you want to support a point with statistics, try showing me the overall consensus of the majority....who cares about the opinions of the insignificant few?
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(12-07-2025, 01:56 PM)pinkpanther Wrote: Alright, in that case, these two groups can continue to face God's wrath.
One side honors and reveres the Messenger Jesus God sends and the other rejects and curses him.
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(12-07-2025, 03:10 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: One side honors and reveres the Messenger Jesus God sends and the other rejects and curses him.
There are no differences....you moslems are simply the lesser of two evils.
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(12-07-2025, 03:10 PM)pinkpanther Wrote: When you can no longer rebuke.. you tend to repeat the same point.. Next time if you want to support a point with statistics, try showing me the overall consensus of the majority....who cares about the opinions of the insignificant few?
Yes, I will repeat that point which you haven't realised. You think you know better than the scholars at Pew Research.
Such arrogance is beyond laughable. It's sad really.
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(12-07-2025, 03:14 PM)pinkpanther Wrote: There are no differences....you moslems are simply the lesser of two evils.
No difference to you? Really? One side is the enemy of Jesus and the other revere him and you think no difference?
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(12-07-2025, 03:14 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: Yes, I will repeat that point which you haven't realised. You think you know better than the scholars at Pew Research.
Such arrogance is beyond laughable. It's sad really.
Do you attend math or science classes, or have you never been to school? Do you mostly trust statistics created by a small minority, or do you rely on the majority as your guide? I don't even trust Pew because they can't provide concrete numbers.
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(12-07-2025, 03:16 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: No difference to you? Really? One side is the enemy of Jesus and the other revere him and you think no difference?
We can take Islam as nearest to us...we believe that Jesus is the only way to salvation and that Jesus is our lord and savior ...
The moslems and the Jews rejected the stance!! So there is no need for favouritism between these 2 groups
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(12-07-2025, 01:18 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: Did the Bible say that God's promise of a homeland for the Israelites came with a condition? Yes.
Did the Israelites break the condition?
The condition is obedience and faithfulness to God's commands. Failure to uphold these conditions could result in consequences, including expulsion from the land....
So God has gathered them back after thousands of years! What does that tells you?
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(12-07-2025, 01:13 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: Which religion do the sons of Ishmael follow? Islam. Who do the Muslims worship? Allah.
So, you don't believe in the God of the great thi?
no.. where can i find what you said from the Quran? I don want to misrepresent the Quran
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(12-07-2025, 03:20 PM)pinkpanther Wrote: Do you attend math or science classes, or have you never been to school? Do you mostly trust statistics created by a small minority, or do you rely on the majority as your guide? I don't even trust Pew because they can't provide concrete numbers.
You think you know better than other people like policy makers, civic leaders, journalists, educators, researchers, etc.
Such arrogance is without comparison.
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(12-07-2025, 04:07 PM)pinkpanther Wrote: no.. where can i find what you said from the Quran? I don want to misrepresent the Quran
Do you know which religion the sons of Ishmael follow?
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(12-07-2025, 03:53 PM)pinkpanther Wrote: The condition is obedience and faithfulness to God's commands. Failure to uphold these conditions could result in consequences, including expulsion from the land....
So God has gathered them back after thousands of years! What does that tells you?
It tells me that they are going against God's will.
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(12-07-2025, 03:28 PM)pinkpanther Wrote: We can take Islam as nearest to us...we believe that Jesus is the only way to salvation and that Jesus is our lord and savior ...
The moslems and the Jews rejected the stance!! So there is no need for favouritism between these 2 groups
Which side will Jesus kill on his return?