Scripture readings for Christmas

(14-07-2025, 08:38 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Show me where Jesus says he is the kalimathu and messiah from the Quran

Allah tells us that the son of Mary, pbuh, is the Messiah. Jesus was created with just a word from Allah.
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(14-07-2025, 08:37 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  I'm just taking the stance of the christians delegate...it is questions like this Muhammad will challenge

So we can agree that the Prophet صلي الله عليه وسلم wasn't taking lessons from the Christians. Cool.
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(14-07-2025, 08:42 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  I know you have none because I need to remind you all the time....Allah gave you a brain to think Big Grin sounds familiar?

I use my brain all the time, plus my knowledge. That's why I always prevail over you.
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(14-07-2025, 08:44 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Allah tells us that the son of Mary, pbuh, is the Messiah. Jesus was created with just a word from Allah.

Rotfl God the Father tells us that Jesus is God from Hebrews1:8-12

But about the Son he says,

“Your throne, O God, will last for ever and ever;
    a scepter of justice will be the scepter of your kingdom.
9 You have loved righteousness and hated wickedness;
    therefore God, your God, has set you above your companions
    by anointing you with the oil of joy.”[a]

10 He also says,

“In the beginning, Lord, you laid the foundations of the earth,
    and the heavens are the work of your hands.
11 They will perish, but you remain;
    they will all wear out like a garment.
12 You will roll them up like a robe;
    like a garment they will be changed.
But you remain the same,
    and your years will never end.”
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In essence, Hebrews 1:8 is a powerful declaration of the Son's divinity and his eternal, righteous reign as King. The author of Hebrews uses this verse to draw a clear distinction between angels and the Son, asserting the Son's superior status and divine nature.
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(14-07-2025, 08:47 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Rotfl God the Father tells us that Jesus is God from Hebrews1:8-12

But about the Son he says,

“Your throne, O God, will last for ever and ever;
    a scepter of justice will be the scepter of your kingdom.
9 You have loved righteousness and hated wickedness;
    therefore God, your God, has set you above your companions
    by anointing you with the oil of joy.”[a]

10 He also says,

“In the beginning, Lord, you laid the foundations of the earth,
    and the heavens are the work of your hands.
11 They will perish, but you remain;
    they will all wear out like a garment.
12 You will roll them up like a robe;
    like a garment they will be changed.
But you remain the same,
    and your years will never end.”

The question is simple. Show me Jesus saying he is God.

So please don't show me what someone else said about Jesus.
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(14-07-2025, 08:46 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  I use my brain all the time, plus my knowledge. That's why I always prevail over you.

Rotfl like how I cooked you over your pew research stats....


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(14-07-2025, 08:49 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  The question is simple. Show me Jesus saying he is God.

So please don't show me what someone else said about Jesus.

The question is simple. Show me Jesus saying he is the messiah

So please don't show me what someone else said about Jesus.
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(14-07-2025, 08:49 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  The question is simple. Show me Jesus saying he is God.

So please don't show me what someone else said about Jesus.

You will take what Allah said but I can't take what God the Father said?

This is double standards  Big Grin
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(14-07-2025, 08:52 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  The question is simple. Show me Jesus saying he is the messiah

So please don't show me what someone else said about Jesus.

In the Quran, we don't have Jesus saying he is the Messiah.

Now, do the same parroting with that. I'll do it for you. In the Bible, we don't have Jesus saying he is God.

Agree?
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(14-07-2025, 08:53 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  You will take what Allah said but I can't take what God the Father said?

This is double standards  Big Grin

The Father already said, "I alone am God. Beside Me, there is no other".
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(14-07-2025, 08:51 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Rotfl like how I cooked you over your pew research stats....


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What cooking are you talking about? If anything, I showed you the double standard you're using on Pew Research.

I agree with Pew Research data on Turkey. 

LOL
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(14-07-2025, 08:55 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  In the Quran, we don't have Jesus saying he is the Messiah.

Now, do the same parroting with that. I'll do it for you. In the Bible, we don't have Jesus saying he is God.

Agree?

Yes...Jesus in many verses claims to be God...
If you are God in the flesh..will you go around telling others you are God? Big Grin

If you are rich will you be a show off?
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(14-07-2025, 08:58 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Yes...Jesus in many verses claims to be God...
If you are God in the flesh..will you go around telling others you are God? Big Grin

If Jesus is God and believing that is crucial for mankind's salvation, then yes, he must make that clear. Otherwise, he cannot blame people if they don't believe he is God.

Now, show me where Jesus unambiguously says that he is God.
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(14-07-2025, 08:57 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  What cooking are you talking about? If anything, I showed you the double standard you're using on Pew Research.

I agree with Pew Research data on Turkey. 

LOL

Big Grin Thank you for agreeing that more than 2 million moslems left islam annually ...me and Lksm tried our best to drive the point to you but to no avail
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(14-07-2025, 09:01 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  If Jesus is God and believing that is crucial for mankind's salvation, then yes, he must make that clear. Otherwise, he cannot blame people if they don't believe he is God.

Now, show me where Jesus unambiguously says that he is God.

What did The pharisees do to him when he claims to be one with the father?
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(14-07-2025, 08:58 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  If you are rich will you be a show off?

That's a false equivalence. 

That has nothing to do with mankind's salvation.
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(14-07-2025, 09:02 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  What did The pharisees do to him when he claims to be one with the father?

According to the book of John, after Jesus said that, they tried to stone him.

Now, what happened after that? Read further, and you will see that Jesus denies he is God.
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(14-07-2025, 09:01 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Big Grin Thank you for agreeing that more than 2 million moslems left islam annually ...me and Lksm tried our best to drive the point to you but to no avail

Ok. Good that you now agree to use Pew Research data, which is reliable. 

Now, show me how you derive that "annually"?

LOL
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The ocean is so blue.

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(14-07-2025, 09:05 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Ok. Good that you now agree to use Pew Research data, which is reliable. 

Now, show me how you derive that "annually"?

LOL

It is just simple math...you do not need to be a genius to work out the answer...

The stats is from 23-24...so it is base on that particular year
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(14-07-2025, 09:09 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  The ocean is so blue.

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You can literally find these on the internet..
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(14-07-2025, 09:22 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  You can literally find these on the internet..

You cannot smell the ocean on the internet.

And I love the long drive on a winding road. I get to use the tiptronic.
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(14-07-2025, 09:21 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  It is just simple math...you do not need to be a genius to work out the answer...

The stats is from 23-24...so it is base on that particular year

When they ask the people, did they ask if they left Islam in 23-24?
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(14-07-2025, 09:24 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  You cannot smell the ocean on the internet.

And I love the long drive on a winding road. I get to use the tiptronic.

i would rather smell something nicer...
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(14-07-2025, 09:25 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  When they ask the people, did they ask if they left Islam in 23-24?

That could mean that whatever survey or methods they use are dated 23-24...it could be a collection of data from islamic bodies..
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(14-07-2025, 08:56 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  The Father already said, "I alone am God. Beside Me, there is no other".

Hebrews 12:2
English Standard Version
2 looking to Jesus, the founder and perfecter of our faith, who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is seated at the right hand of the throne of God.
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(14-07-2025, 09:30 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  That could mean that whatever survey or methods they use are dated 23-24...it could be a collection of data from islamic bodies..

So you don't know.

So you cannot say it is annual.
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(14-07-2025, 09:04 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  According to the book of John, after Jesus said that, they tried to stone him.

Now, what happened after that? Read further, and you will see that Jesus denies he is God.

If Jesus denies that He is God.... Christianity will not flourish..if He is just a man, why do we always have testimonies of people witnessing Jesus and not Muhammad? Why don't we see people saying that they have visions of Muhammad?
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(14-07-2025, 09:46 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Hebrews 12:2
English Standard Version
2 looking to Jesus, the founder and perfecter of our faith, who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is seated at the right hand of the throne of God.

Whose words are those? A man, right?
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