Scripture readings for Christmas

(Today, 06:57 AM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Have you counted how many radicals there are in Islam, or Christianity, or Buddhism, or Hinduism?

The Quran encourages us, even exhorts us, to think. And most importantly, the Quran advises us to go to the experts when we know we don't know.

According to intelligence from the american gov, the moslem radicals are from the range of 180-300 millions..

Yes...The Quran advises you to go to the experts but you also have radical imams with different interpretations....

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(Today, 07:05 AM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Which type of Christianity? The Trinitarians? The Unitarians? The Orthodox? The Catholics? 

And why is it Jesus will chase away MANY, not some, not few, but MANY Christians?

Mainstream Christianity, particularly within Trinitarian denominations, generally does not recognize Unitarians or binitarians as Christians...

Why Jesus will chase many Christians? Because they are in name Christians only but doesnt do anything
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(Today, 06:26 AM)cheekopekman Wrote:  Many false Christians also misinterpreted the Bible and formed cults lah! Big Grin

Yes like the mormons but we do not consider these minority as Christians
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Young Singaporean boy converted to Islam 



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(Today, 07:24 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:  According to intelligence from the american gov, the moslem radicals are from the range of 180-300 millions.. moslems

How did the American government come up with those figures? Do they consider anybody who opposed their hegemonic rule as radicals too?

And what about the radicals in Christianity? Have they made a study of how many Christians are radicals? Here in tiny Singapore, we also have Christians who are radicalised. One Christian was arrested for planning to kill Muslims.
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(Today, 07:29 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Yes like the mormons but we do not consider these minority as Christians

Christians are followers of Christ. Mormons consider themselves followers of Christ. Why do you deny that they are Christians? Who gives you the right to say if they are Christians or not?
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(Today, 07:28 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Mainstream Christianity, particularly within Trinitarian denominations, generally does not recognize Unitarians or binitarians as Christians...

Who gives you the right to say which followers of Christ are true Christians or false Christians?
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(Today, 07:32 AM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Christians are followers of Christ. Mormons consider themselves followers of Christ. Why do you deny that they are Christians? Who gives you the right to say if they are Christians or not?

They are not in line with our scriptures 

They believe God the Father was once a mortal man on another planet who, through obedience and progression, became a god.

Mormon scripture, the Book of Mormon, describes Jesus appearing to people in the Americas after his resurrection. 

Mormons practice proxy baptisms for deceased individuals, believing that this gives them the opportunity to accept the gospel in the afterlife.
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(Today, 07:34 AM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Who gives you the right to say which followers of Christ are true Christians or false Christians?

Who gives you the right to say followers of Ahmadis are not true moslems?
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(Today, 07:28 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Why Jesus will chase many Christians? Because they are in name Christians only but doesnt do anything

You cannot suka suka make your own judgement. That's not what Jesus said. The ones Jesus will chase away are those who don't follow the Law, like you.

But I will reply, ‘I never knew you. Get away from me, you who break God’s laws.’ - New Living Translation

And then will I declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness.’ - English Standard Version

And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!’ - New King James Version

And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; LEAVE ME, YOU WHO PRACTICE LAWLESSNESS.’ - New American Standard Bible
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(Today, 07:37 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Who gives you the right to say followers of Ahmadis are not true moslems?

I never said that? We call them heretics.

Now your turn. Who gives you the right to say which followers of Christ are true Christians?
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(Today, 07:38 AM)Ali Imran Wrote:  I never said that? We call them heretics.

Ahmadis consider themselves to be Moslems and part of the Islamic faith, but many mainstream Moslems do not recognize them as such

So a sunni do you recognize them as moslem?
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(Today, 07:35 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:  They are not in line with our scriptures 

They believe God the Father was once a mortal man on another planet who, through obedience and progression, became a god.

Mormon scripture, the Book of Mormon, describes Jesus appearing to people in the Americas after his resurrection. 

Mormons practice proxy baptisms for deceased individuals, believing that this gives them the opportunity to accept the gospel in the afterlife.

Ok. Mormons are heretics.

What about Unitarians? Catholics? The Orthodox? And many others? Why is their brand of Christianity false and yours true?
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(Today, 07:38 AM)Ali Imran Wrote:  I never said that? We call them heretics.

Now your turn. Who gives you the right to say which followers of Christ are true Christians?

I don have the rights but the Pope and the Christian bodies do not officially recognize Mormonism as a Christian denomination due to fundamental theological differences, particularly regarding the nature of God and the Trinity
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(Today, 07:41 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Ahmadis consider themselves to be Moslems and part of the Islamic faith, but many mainstream Moslems do not recognize them as such

So a sunni do you recognize them as moslem?

I already told you. We consider them heretics.

We don't get to say who is Muslim and who is not, unless they openly say they are not Muslims.
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(Today, 07:43 AM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Ok. Mormons are heretics.

What about Unitarians? Catholics? The Orthodox? And many others? Why is their brand of Christianity false and yours true?

Again it has to go back to the council of nicea!
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(Today, 07:43 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:  I don have the rights but the Pope and the Christian bodies do not officially recognize Mormonism as a Christian denomination due to fundamental theological differences, particularly regarding the nature of God and the Trinity

Ok. Leave the Mormons aside. 

Most Christians say the Catholics are not Christians. Ergo, you cannot say Christianity is the largest religion when they are split right down the middle.
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(Today, 07:44 AM)Ali Imran Wrote:  I already told you. We consider them heretics.

We don't get to say who is Muslim and who is not, unless they openly say they are not Muslims.

In Pakistan, Ahmadis are officially declared as non-Muslims
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(Today, 07:46 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Again it has to go back to the council of nicea!

The Catholics. Why are they not considered Christians by the Protestants?
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(Today, 07:47 AM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Ok. Leave the Mormons aside. 

Most Christians say the Catholics are not Christians. Ergo, you cannot say Christianity is the largest religion when they are split right down the middle.

Catholics are Christians..they believe in the Trinity . The core beliefs are the same
Even the Pope has stated that Catholics are Christians ....you don know? Lol
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(Today, 07:49 AM)Ali Imran Wrote:  The Catholics. Why are they not considered Christians by the Protestants?

Some may question whether Catholics are truly Christian due to slight differences in doctrine and practice....but the core of thế Christian faith remains the same with the mainstream Christians...the disagreements usually center around the authority of the Pope, the role of Mary and saints..
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(Today, 07:47 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:  In Pakistan, Ahmadis are officially declared as non-Muslims

Ok. I personally don't do that, judge people. I can say they are heretics because they are not in line with the Prophet's teachings. But more importantly, they are a minute population.
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(Today, 07:50 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Catholics are Christians..they believe in the Trinity . The core beliefs are the same
Even the Pope has stated that Catholics are Christians ....you don know? Lol

I know that.

I have already said Christians are people who say they follow Christ.

But there are many Christians who will say Catholics are not Christians.
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(Today, 07:53 AM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Ok. I personally don't do that, judge people. I can say they are heretics because they are not in line with the Prophet's teachings. But more importantly, they are a minute population.

If they are not in line with your prophet's teachings ..what should you do? There is only one simple outcome!! Reject it tiok boh!
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(Today, 07:46 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Again it has to go back to the council of nicea!

So let's go back your claim that Christianity is the truth.

Why would Jesus chase away MANY Christians? Because they don't follow the Law, like you. Most brands of Christianity don't follow the Law and they will be chased away by Jesus. So not many brands of Christianity is the truth, isn't it?
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(Today, 07:57 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:  If they are not in line with your prophet's teachings ..what should you do? There is only one simple outcome!! Reject it tiok boh!

Yes, we reject heresy in theology.

That is why the mainstream Muslims are like 90% of the population.
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(Today, 08:00 AM)Ali Imran Wrote:  So let's go back your claim that Christianity is the truth.

Why would Jesus chase away MANY Christians? Because they don't follow the Law, like you. Most brands of Christianity don't follow the Law and they will be chased away by Jesus. So not many brands of Christianity is the truth, isn't it?

Who gives you the right to say which followers of Christ are true Christians or false Christians?

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(Today, 07:56 AM)Ali Imran Wrote:  I know that.

I have already said Christians are people who say they follow Christ.

But there are many Christians who will say Catholics are not Christians.

Who gives you the right to say which followers of Christ are true Christians or false Christians?

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(Today, 07:47 AM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Ok. Leave the Mormons aside. 

Most Christians say the Catholics are not Christians. Ergo, you cannot say Christianity is the largest religion when they are split right down the middle.

Who gives you the right to say which followers of Christ are true Christians or false Christians?

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(Today, 05:00 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Big GrinHe provides you with straightforward answers... his videos are entertaining... and the reactions from Moslems are always funny.

Koran sides Jews n also wanted to kill Jews 
How come so messy?
Maybe copied half truth ?

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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