Scripture readings for Christmas
20-07-2025, 08:33 AM
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(20-07-2025, 08:28 AM)pinkpanther Wrote: Luke is writing the life and teachings of Jesus..he is a detective and he mentions relying on "those who from the first were eyewitnesses and servants of the word" (Luke 1:2), suggesting he sought out and incorporated firsthand accounts.
Yes, that's what Luke wrote.
Remember the key phrase in the Quranic verse you quoted. "..what Allah revealed therein".
20-07-2025, 08:36 AM
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(20-07-2025, 08:00 AM)pinkpanther Wrote: Quran 5:47
وَلْيَحْكُمْ أَهْلُ ٱلْإِنجِيلِ بِمَآ أَنزَلَ ٱللَّهُ فِيهِ ۚ وَمَن لَّمْ يَحْكُم بِمَآ أَنزَلَ ٱللَّهُ فَأُو۟لَـٰٓئِكَ هُمُ ٱلْفَـٰسِقُونَ ٤٧
So let the people of the Gospel judge by what Allah has revealed in it. And those who do not judge by what Allah has revealed are ˹truly˺ the rebellious
If you go to this tafsir ...you will have a headache reading the commentaries..
https://quranx.com/tafsirs/5.47
Don’t read 5:47 out of context.you should read 5:43 to 48 to understand the meaning
“But why do they come to you for judgment when they ˹already˺ have the Torah containing Allah’s judgment, then they turn away after all? They are not ˹true˺ believers.
Indeed, We revealed the Torah, containing guidance and light, by which the prophets, who submitted themselves to Allah, made judgments for Jews. So too did the rabbis and scholars judge according to Allah’s Book, with which they were entrusted and of which they were made keepers. So do not fear the people; fear Me! Nor trade my revelations for a fleeting gain. And those who do not judge by what Allah has revealed are ˹truly˺ the disbelievers.
We ordained for them in the Torah, “A life for a life, an eye for an eye, a nose for a nose, an ear for an ear, a tooth for a tooth—and for wounds equal retaliation.” But whoever waives it charitably, it will be atonement for them. And those who do not judge by what Allah has revealed are ˹truly˺ the wrongdoers.
Then in the footsteps of the prophets, We sent Jesus, son of Mary, confirming the Torah revealed before him. And We gave him the Gospel containing guidance and light and confirming what was revealed in the Torah—a guide and a lesson to the God-fearing.
So let the people of the Gospel judge by what Allah has revealed in it. And those who do not judge by what Allah has revealed are ˹truly˺ the rebellious.
We have revealed to you ˹O Prophet˺ this Book with the truth, as a confirmation of previous Scriptures and a supreme authority on them. So judge between them by what Allah has revealed, and do not follow their desires over the truth that has come to you. To each of you We have ordained a code of law and a way of life. If Allah had willed, He would have made you one community, but His Will is to test you with what He has given ˹each of˺ you. So compete with one another in doing good. To Allah you will all return, then He will inform you ˹of the truth˺ regarding your differences.”Quran 5:43-48
20-07-2025, 08:38 AM
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20-07-2025, 08:47 AM
(20-07-2025, 08:42 AM)pinkpanther Wrote: Sorry to disappoint you...the gospel were indeed based on a period of oral transmission before being written down.
I've shown you the differences in the words attributed to Jesus in the Gospel of Mark, and later in the Gospel of Matthew.
Can we determine which Gospel is accurate?
20-07-2025, 08:52 AM
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20-07-2025, 08:58 AM
(20-07-2025, 08:37 AM)Hope Wrote: Don’t read 5:47 out of context.you should read 5:43 to 48 to understand the meaning
“But why do they come to you for judgment when they ˹already˺ have the Torah containing Allah’s judgment, then they turn away after all? They are not ˹true˺ believers.
Indeed, We revealed the Torah, containing guidance and light, by which the prophets, who submitted themselves to Allah, made judgments for Jews. So too did the rabbis and scholars judge according to Allah’s Book, with which they were entrusted and of which they were made keepers. So do not fear the people; fear Me! Nor trade my revelations for a fleeting gain. And those who do not judge by what Allah has revealed are ˹truly˺ the disbelievers.
We ordained for them in the Torah, “A life for a life, an eye for an eye, a nose for a nose, an ear for an ear, a tooth for a tooth—and for wounds equal retaliation.” But whoever waives it charitably, it will be atonement for them. And those who do not judge by what Allah has revealed are ˹truly˺ the wrongdoers.
Then in the footsteps of the prophets, We sent Jesus, son of Mary, confirming the Torah revealed before him. And We gave him the Gospel containing guidance and light and confirming what was revealed in the Torah—a guide and a lesson to the God-fearing.
So let the people of the Gospel judge by what Allah has revealed in it. And those who do not judge by what Allah has revealed are ˹truly˺ the rebellious.
We have revealed to you ˹O Prophet˺ this Book with the truth, as a confirmation of previous Scriptures and a supreme authority on them. So judge between them by what Allah has revealed, and do not follow their desires over the truth that has come to you. To each of you We have ordained a code of law and a way of life. If Allah had willed, He would have made you one community, but His Will is to test you with what He has given ˹each of˺ you. So compete with one another in doing good. To Allah you will all return, then He will inform you ˹of the truth˺ regarding your differences.”Quran 5:43-48
Thank you...all of these show us that the Torah and the Gospel were good during Muhammad's time...
20-07-2025, 09:07 AM
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20-07-2025, 10:11 AM
(20-07-2025, 09:15 AM)Ali Imran Wrote: Among other things, the Quran instructs us to seek guidance in what Allah has revealed.
If the Injil was corrupted, why would Allah direct the Christians to the injil for judgement?

Explanation:
"Let the people of the Gospel judge by what Allah has revealed therein":
This part of the verse directs Christians to base their judgments and decisions on the teachings and commandments found within the Gospel, which is believed to be the scripture revealed to Jesus.
"And whoever does not judge by what Allah has revealed - then it is those who are the defiantly disobedient":
This part of the verse clarifies that those who reject the divine law revealed in the Gospel, and instead judge by other means, are considered transgressors or disobedient to God.
20-07-2025, 10:14 AM
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(20-07-2025, 07:01 AM)Ali Imran Wrote: The Bible says the entire universe cannot contain God, but you believe God resides in a human body.God is a spirit can lah
How come?
Nothing is impossible with God
He even wrestled with Jacob and renamed him as Israel
God also talked to Moses in mount sinai
Understand ?
Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
20-07-2025, 10:35 AM
(20-07-2025, 08:55 AM)pinkpanther Wrote: How to resurrect when we are not dead...She means she resurrected from her sleep every morning lah lol
Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
20-07-2025, 10:39 AM
(20-07-2025, 08:47 AM)Ali Imran Wrote: I've shown you the differences in the words attributed to Jesus in the Gospel of Mark, and later in the Gospel of Matthew.
Can we determine which Gospel is accurate?
What is the use of finding faults with the gospel and u are not born again
Jesus said nobody can enter the kingdom of God unless u are reborn of water and spirit
Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
20-07-2025, 10:42 AM
Elak again ? Lol
Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
20-07-2025, 10:47 AM
(20-07-2025, 09:36 AM)Hope Wrote: https://youtu.be/XCfYCm4V3UE?si=L2pIJ9YzXlYl_0b0
Good vs evil
The good sacrifices the evil kills
Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
20-07-2025, 10:51 AM
(19-07-2025, 09:09 PM)pinkpanther Wrote: I wouldn't want to be in his shoes...
Only tee kor type likes n believe can get foc 72 v
Everyday in heaven play hide n seek with them can u believe it?
Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
20-07-2025, 11:01 AM
(20-07-2025, 05:37 AM)Hope Wrote: https://youtu.be/PvTzvf58xBI?si=8IU0nAmHztJDoeAB
Paul invented Christianity
It's believed that the people of Antioch, a diverse city, used this term to distinguish the followers of Jesus from other groups.
Jesus called his followers My sheep
Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
20-07-2025, 11:11 AM
https://youtu.be/UwxBgwQQl1E?si=ZY52TqLwz4Aw3QW0
Before Jesus coming on the clouds to rapture His people
A great earthquake will shook the whole earth
Now many countries are experiencing earthquakes since 28 March 2025
The Bible describes several significant earthquakes, with the greatest one occurring in the Book of Revelation. This earthquake, following the seventh bowl judgment, is depicted as unprecedented in its magnitude and destructive power, causing the division of a great city, the collapse of nations' cities, and other cataclysmic events. Other notable earthquakes mentioned include one during the reign of King Uzziah of Judah (Amos 1:1) and one associated with Jesus' crucifixion and resurrection (Matthew 27:51-52, Matthew 28:2).
Before Jesus coming on the clouds to rapture His people
A great earthquake will shook the whole earth
Now many countries are experiencing earthquakes since 28 March 2025
The Bible describes several significant earthquakes, with the greatest one occurring in the Book of Revelation. This earthquake, following the seventh bowl judgment, is depicted as unprecedented in its magnitude and destructive power, causing the division of a great city, the collapse of nations' cities, and other cataclysmic events. Other notable earthquakes mentioned include one during the reign of King Uzziah of Judah (Amos 1:1) and one associated with Jesus' crucifixion and resurrection (Matthew 27:51-52, Matthew 28:2).
Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
20-07-2025, 11:24 AM
20-07-2025, 11:27 AM
(20-07-2025, 11:24 AM)Hope Wrote: Jesus didn’t called his followers Christian
Jesus Also never called them moslems
Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
20-07-2025, 11:27 AM
(20-07-2025, 11:11 AM)Lukongsimi Wrote: https://youtu.be/UwxBgwQQl1E?si=ZY52TqLwz4Aw3QW0When does he come?
Before Jesus coming on the clouds to rapture His people
A great earthquake will shook the whole earth
Now many countries are experiencing earthquakes since 28 March 2025
The Bible describes several significant earthquakes, with the greatest one occurring in the Book of Revelation. This earthquake, following the seventh bowl judgment, is depicted as unprecedented in its magnitude and destructive power, causing the division of a great city, the collapse of nations' cities, and other cataclysmic events. Other notable earthquakes mentioned include one during the reign of King Uzziah of Judah (Amos 1:1) and one associated with Jesus' crucifixion and resurrection (Matthew 27:51-52, Matthew 28:2).
20-07-2025, 11:28 AM
(20-07-2025, 10:51 AM)Lukongsimi Wrote: Only tee kor type likes n believe can get foc 72 v
Everyday in heaven play hide n seek with them can u believe it?
Every day, the thought of 72 virgins can drive our friend mad... eventually, he’ll beg Allah to put an end to it.
But Allah smiles sheepishly and responds, “This is just the beginning,” and then bestows another 72 virgins. Our friend here slowly swallows his saliva, hesitantly replies, “Thank you, Allah,” and then, agonisingly, watches as the 144 virgins rush toward him.

You can hear a soft murmur from him:" pls..not again!"
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