Scripture readings for Christmas

(20-07-2025, 08:27 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  When Jesus prayed to the Father all 3 gather together as 1 powerful almighty God the creator 
Even the earth trembles and shook 
Thunder roars lightning strikes

You mean Jesus prayed to himself?
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(20-07-2025, 08:30 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  yeah I believe the devil is Jibril

If the entity claims to be Jibril and leads one to believe that God is 3 persons, then yes, that entity is the devil.
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(20-07-2025, 08:34 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  You mean Jesus prayed to himself?

All 3 is in 1 understand?

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(20-07-2025, 08:36 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  All 3 is in 1 understand?

Ok. I understand what you believe.

So you said when Jesus prayed to the Father, the Holy Spirit, and himself?
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(20-07-2025, 08:37 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Ok. I understand what you believe.

So you said when Jesus prayed to the Father, the Holy Spirit, and himself?

still ask u don’t understand ?

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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the God of Abraham is not described as wearing red in the Bible. The concept of God's appearance is not explicitly detailed in the Abrahamic texts, and red is not associated with God's portrayal. The color red is connected to other figures like Esau, who was born red, and to the concept of sin in Isaiah 1:18. 

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(20-07-2025, 08:41 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  still ask u don’t understand ?

I understand you believe the godhead consists of 3 fully Gods in one.

What I don't understand is what you said earlier, that when Jesus prays, he was praying to all 3. Does that mean Jesus was also praying to himself?
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(20-07-2025, 08:44 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  I understand you believe the godhead consists of 3 fully Gods in one.

What I don't understand is what you said earlier, that when Jesus prays, he was praying to all 3. Does that mean Jesus was also praying to himself?
Jesus who was born of the Holy Spirit when he prays to the Father all 3 gathers 
Understand ? How come u so sua Koo?

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(20-07-2025, 08:48 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  Jesus who was born of the Holy Spirit when he prays to the Father all 3 gathers 
Understand ? How come u so sua Koo?

So that means when Jesus prays, he is praying to just 2 persons? If you say all 3, that would mean he is also praying to himself, correct?
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(20-07-2025, 08:35 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  If the entity claims to be Jibril and leads one to believe that God is 3 persons, then yes, that entity is the devil.

God is not 3 persons? You can also tell that to the hindus.. Big Grin  You can't even show me the existence of the Islamic God!
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(20-07-2025, 08:55 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  God is not 3 persons? You can also tell that to the hindus.. Big Grin  You can't even show me the existence of the Islamic God!

Have you asked AI if the Trinity is 3 persons in 1 being? You like AI right?
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(20-07-2025, 08:55 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  You can't even show me the existence of the Islamic God!

You don't believe in the existence of the creator of the heavens and the earth?
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(20-07-2025, 09:04 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  You don't believe in the existence of the creator of the heavens and the earth?

Who says we don?

Colossians 1:16 states, "For by him all things were created, in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities—all things were created through him and for him
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(20-07-2025, 08:51 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  So that means when Jesus prays, he is praying to just 2 persons? If you say all 3, that would mean he is also praying to himself, correct?

Now u believe in the trinity good for u

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(20-07-2025, 09:02 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Have you asked AI if the Trinity is 3 persons in 1 being? You like AI right?

Is it important? We have explained with graphs, diagram and words ..but still you seems to show an intelligence of a 7yrs old Big Grin
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(20-07-2025, 09:09 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Who says we don?

Colossians 1:16 states, "For by him all things were created, in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities—all things were created through him and for him

We believe in the Creator of the heavens and the earth. Most importantly, we worship Him only.
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(20-07-2025, 09:15 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Is it important? We have explained with graphs, diagram and words ..but still you seems to show an intelligence of a 7yrs old Big Grin

You said the Father is not a person. The Son is not a person. The Holy Spirit is not a person. So what are they?
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(20-07-2025, 09:11 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  Now u believe in the trinity good for u

So Jesus prays to himself too?

Ok cool.
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(20-07-2025, 08:51 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  So that means when Jesus prays, he is praying to just 2 persons? If you say all 3, that would mean he is also praying to himself, correct?

The 3 of them are having a communion...
Do you think it is like Muhammad self praising and sending blessings to himself during prayers?

Did Muhammad use to say this to himself?
"Allahumma salli 'ala Muhammadin wa 'ala aali Muhammad"
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(20-07-2025, 09:28 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  The 3 of them are having a communion...
Do you think it is like Muhammad self praising and sending blessings to himself during prayers?

Did Muhammad use to say this to himself?
"Allahumma salli 'ala Muhammadin wa 'ala aali Muhammad"

Yes, why shouldn't he ask Allah to bless him?

We also ask Allah for blessings for us.
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(20-07-2025, 09:28 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  The 3 of them are having a communion...
Do you think it is like Muhammad self praising and sending blessings to himself during prayers?

Did Muhammad use to say this to himself?
"Allahumma salli 'ala Muhammadin wa 'ala aali Muhammad"

So you also believe Jesus prays to himself?
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(20-07-2025, 09:23 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  You said the Father is not a person. The Son is not a person. The Holy Spirit is not a person. So what are they?

1 being 3 persons...I think the christians here have explained more than a hundred times...even a slow learner would have known the meaning by now
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(20-07-2025, 09:31 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  So you also believe Jesus prays to himself?

Where did I say Jesus prays to himself?
Do you know what is a communion? 
Did Muhammad send blessings to himself? Big Grin
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(20-07-2025, 09:33 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Where did I say Jesus prays to himself?
Do you know what is a communion? 
Did Muhammad send blessings to himself? Big Grin

No, Muhammad صلي الله عليه وسلم prays to Allah for blessings on himself. Remember, Muhammad صلي الله عليه وسلم was just a man, not God.

So, you believe Jesus is God, and according to LKSM, when Jesus prays, he prays to all 3. That means he is praying to himself. Do you also believe that?
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(20-07-2025, 09:32 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  1 being 3 persons...I think the christians here have explained more than a hundred times...even a slow learner would have known the meaning by now

Oh.. you've suddenly gained the knowledge that God is 3 persons. 

Ok cool. It's good that you're learning about your own faith.
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(20-07-2025, 09:24 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  So Jesus prays to himself too?

Ok cool.

Again twist n turn to mock 
Jesus was communicating with the Father 
All 3 gathered together as one God
Father Son and Holy Spirit
Let us create man in our image it tells u they are also communicating

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(20-07-2025, 09:40 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  Again twist n turn to mock 
Jesus was communicating with the Father 
All 3 gathered together as one God
Father Son and Holy Spirit
Let us create man in our image it tells u they are also  communicating

So make me understand. When Jesus prayed, who did he pray to? Only the Father or what?
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(20-07-2025, 09:36 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  No, Muhammad صلي الله عليه وسلم prays to Allah for blessings on himself. Remember, Muhammad صلي الله عليه وسلم was just a man, not God.

So, you believe Jesus is God, and according to LKSM, when Jesus prays, he prays to all 3. That means he is praying to himself. Do you also believe that?

So in the Shahada he also need to declare to himself that Muhammad is the messenger of God? Laughing
Ownself check ownself? Lol

Why would he say this to himself and expect others to say it to him...

O Allah, send blessings upon Muhammad and the family of Muhammad". 

It's like giving a rich person (who has everything) more money instead of giving it to poor and needy people.
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(20-07-2025, 09:44 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  So make me understand. When Jesus prayed, who did he pray to? Only the Father or what?


Don’t trick me again I know your evil scheme lah
Go n ask your grandchildren what it means I think they are smarter than u.lol

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(20-07-2025, 09:50 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  So in the Shahada he also need to declare to himself that Muhammad is the messenger of God? Laughing
Ownself check ownself? Lol

Why would he say this to himself and expect others to say it to him...

O Allah, send blessings upon Muhammad and the family of Muhammad". 

It's like giving a rich person (who has everything) more money instead of giving it to poor and needy people.

We pray only to the one true God, not to a man.

The last messenger of Allah will be the most blessed man because so many billions of people pray to Allah to bless him صلي الله عليه وسلم.
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