Scripture readings for Christmas

(22-07-2025, 10:12 AM)Ali Imran Wrote:  When did I ever do that?

The Bible is our affairs
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(22-07-2025, 10:13 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:  So you do believe what the Quran says....it says that someone who resembled Jesus was crucified in his place....

No, the Quran did not say that.
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(22-07-2025, 10:14 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:  The Bible is our affairs

Then you should keep it out of the public arena.
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“Jesus said to the crowds and to his disciples: The Pharisees and the teachers of the Law are experts in the Law of Moses. So obey everything they teach you, but don't do as they do. After all, they say one thing and do something else. They pile heavy burdens on people's shoulders and won't lift a finger to help. Everything they do is just to show off in front of others. They even make a big show of wearing Scripture verses on their foreheads and arms, and they wear big tassels for everyone to see. They love the best seats at banquets and the front seats in the synagogues. And when they are in the market, they like to have people greet them as their teachers. But none of you should be called a teacher. You have only one teacher, and all of you are like brothers and sisters. Don't call anyone on earth your father. All of you have the same Father in heaven. None of you should be called the leader. The Messiah is your only leader. Whoever is the greatest should be the servant of the others. If you put yourself above others, you will be put down. But if you humble yourself, you will be honored. You Pharisees and teachers of the Law of Moses are in for trouble! You're nothing but show-offs. You lock people out of the kingdom of heaven. You won't go in yourselves, and you keep others from going in. You Pharisees and teachers of the Law of Moses are in for trouble! You're nothing but show-offs. You travel over land and sea to win one follower. And when you have done so, you make that person twice as fit for hell as you are.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭23‬:‭1‬-‭15‬ ‭CEV

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(22-07-2025, 10:15 AM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Then you should keep it out of the public arena.

You are bringing it out and misinterpreting them...and I see the need to address your folly
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(22-07-2025, 10:14 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:  The Bible is our affairs

Yes very correct!

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(22-07-2025, 10:14 AM)Ali Imran Wrote:  No, the Quran did not say that.

You are a kufir

Hilali/khan

And because of their saying (in boast), "We killed Messiah Iesa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary), the Messenger of Allah," - but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but the resemblance of Iesa (Jesus) was put over another man (and they killed that man), and those who differ therein are full of doubts. They have no (certain) knowledge, they follow nothing but conjecture. For surely; they killed him not (i.e. Iesa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary)
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(22-07-2025, 10:20 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:  You are bringing it out and misinterpreting them...and I see the need to address your folly

Go to page 1 of this thread. In post #6, you challenged the Muslims. You "invited" us here to debate.
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(22-07-2025, 10:24 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:  You are a kufir

Hilali/khan

And because of their saying (in boast), "We killed Messiah Iesa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary), the Messenger of Allah," - but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but the resemblance of Iesa (Jesus) was put over another man (and they killed that man), and those who differ therein are full of doubts. They have no (certain) knowledge, they follow nothing but conjecture. For surely; they killed him not (i.e. Iesa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary)

The Quran did not say that. 

It was one man's interpretation, his take on what he believes happened.
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(22-07-2025, 10:20 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:  You are bringing it out and misinterpreting them...and I see the need to address your folly

And I didn't interpret. I only bring up the verses.

Some verses don't need interpretation, like John 17:3.
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(22-07-2025, 10:25 AM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Go to page 1 of this thread. In post #6, you challenged the Muslims. You "invited" us here to debate.

I was replying to ckpm on my stance...where did I explicitly open a challenge to moslems
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(21-07-2025, 08:05 PM)Hope Wrote:  Learning bible .👌

Can someone explain these verses.If

Jesus is God, Lord, King of Kings, Alpha

and Omega, Son of God, God in flesh ,did

miracles on his own ,why should he say

like this?

John 11:40 Then Jesus said, “Did I not tell you that if you believe, you will see the glory of God?”

John 11:41 So they took away the stone. Then Jesus looked up and said, “Father, I thank you that you have heard me.

John 11:42 42 I knew that you always hear me, but I said this for the benefit of the people standing here, that they may believe that you sent me.”
Means the trinity is at work together from the beginning

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(22-07-2025, 10:26 AM)Ali Imran Wrote:  The Quran did not say that. 

It was one man's interpretation, his take on what he believes happened.

This is from the Quran!! It is just a different version of the English translation...so now you are admitting the flaws of your Quran?
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(22-07-2025, 10:28 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:  I was replying to ckpm on my stance...where did I explicitly open a challenge to moslems

Yes, it wasn't an explicit invitation but you brought in Islam and the Muslims without any prompting by anybody.

And now that you've lost, you want to be a crybaby.
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(22-07-2025, 10:29 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:  This is from the Quran!! It is just a different version of the English translation...so now you are admitting the flaws of your Quran?

What flaw? 

There is not a single flaw in the Quran.
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(22-07-2025, 10:33 AM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Yes, it wasn't an explicit invitation but you brought in Islam and the Muslims without any prompting by anybody.

And now that you've lost, you want to be a crybaby.

You lied when you said I challenge the moslems...it was a harmonious reply to Ckpm...

Now you lost and shifted the goal post and started calling me names
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(25-12-2024, 09:35 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Why Muslims don celebrate this day? I thought they say they believe and love Jesus? Big Grin

Do you know why 25th December was chosen?
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(22-07-2025, 10:35 AM)Ali Imran Wrote:  What flaw? 

There is not a single flaw in the Quran.

Good .if there is no flaws, then the innocent who replaced Jesus died according to the translation of Hilali and khan
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(22-07-2025, 10:37 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:  You lied when you said I challenge the moslems...it was a harmonious reply to Ckpm...

Now you lost and shifted the goal post and started calling me names

There, in post #7, you challenged us.

Now, I'm replying to that challenge. Let's go.
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(22-07-2025, 10:35 AM)Ali Imran Wrote:  What flaw? 

There is not a single flaw in the Quran.

Some scholars and critics of the Quran highlight perceived flaws including historical inaccuracies, scientific errors, inconsistencies in the text, and the presence of specific verses that seem to contradict established facts or logic. Others argue that the Quran's language and meaning should be interpreted metaphorically or within the context of its time. 

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(22-07-2025, 10:38 AM)Ali Imran Wrote:  There, in post #7, you challenged us.

Now, I'm replying to that challenge. Let's go.
Don’t get angry when lose 
Be a man n face reality lol

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(22-07-2025, 10:38 AM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Do you know why 25th December was chosen?

I don know but why are you back tracking all the earliest posts? Are you desperate to find any contradictions in my statements? Big Grin
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(22-07-2025, 10:38 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Good .if there is no flaws, then the innocent who replaced Jesus died according to the translation of Hilali and khan

Feel free to criticize the opinion of Hilal and Khan.

But don't say the Quran says that.
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(25-12-2024, 09:35 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Why Muslims don celebrate this day? I thought they say they believe and love Jesus? Big Grin
1 page #7
What challenge pachik is talking about?
Pink was asking a q

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(22-07-2025, 10:38 AM)Ali Imran Wrote:  There, in post #7, you challenged us.

Now, I'm replying to that challenge. Let's go.

Rotfl I am asking Ckpm a question and maybe he has an answer since he deals with ex moslem converts
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(22-07-2025, 10:40 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:  I don know but why are you back tracking all the earliest posts? Are you desperate to find any contradictions in my statements? Big Grin

You want to challenge us, so I am now responding to your challenge. Are you afraid?

The Massachusetts Bay Colony, in 1659, banned Christmas because it was unbiblical and paganistic.
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(22-07-2025, 10:42 AM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  What challenge pachik is talking about?
Pink was asking a q

Christmas day! Why moslems don celebrate xmas day if they respect Jesus?
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(22-07-2025, 10:44 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Christmas day! Why moslems don celebrate xmas day if they respect Jesus?

Muslims are not Christians.
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(22-07-2025, 10:44 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Christmas day! Why moslems don celebrate xmas day if they respect Jesus?
In my working place the moslems celebrate with us to get gifts other than that no

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(22-07-2025, 10:43 AM)Ali Imran Wrote:  You want to challenge us, so I am now responding to your challenge. Are you afraid?

The Massachusetts Bay Colony, in 1659, banned Christmas because it was unbiblical and paganistic.

OK...do they bạn it now? No is the answer..
On the contrary, Muhammad tells moslems not to celebrate his birthday or his death...but these have fallen into death ears .. are you a disobedient Umma?
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