[pinkpanther]

 
When and Why did God promise?

Exodus 6:6-8
Therefore say to the children of Israel: "I am the LORD; I will bring you out from under the burdens of the Egyptians, I will rescue you from their bondage, and I will redeem you with an outstretched arm and with great judgments. I will take you as My people, and I will be your God. Then you shall know that I am the LORD your God who brings you out from under the burdens of the Egyptians. And I will bring you into the land which I swore to give to Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob; and I will give it to you as a heritage: I am the LORD.""
 
Exodus 33:1
Then the LORD said to Moses, “Depart and go up from here, you and the people whom you have brought out of the land of Egypt, to the land of which I swore to Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, saying, ‘To your descendants I will give it.’
 
Numbers 10:29
Now Moses said to Hobab the son of Reuel the Midianite, Moses’ father-in-law, “We are setting out for the place of which the LORD said, ‘I will give it to you.’ Come with us, and we will treat you well; for the LORD has promised good things to Israel.”

[Lukongsimi]

Sarah asked Abraham to cast out Hagar and Ishmael primarily due to jealousy and fear concerning Ishmael's potential inheritance and the disruption of the household following Isaac's birth. When Hagar became pregnant, she began to show contempt towards Sarah, her mistress, which further fueled Sarah's distress. Later, Sarah witnessed Ishmael "mocking" or "playing" with Isaac, which she perceived as a threat to Isaac's status as the true heir to Abraham's covenant, leading to her demand that Hagar and Ishmael be sent away.

[pinkpanther]

 
When and Why did God promise?

Allah gave the Holy land to the Israelites....it is what your Quran said.

[Lukongsimi]

Jesus was born a man to fulfill specific divine purposes. He had to be human to die for humanity's sins, as God cannot die, and to represent humanity before God as a perfect mediator. His human nature also allowed him to experience human life, including temptations and suffering, and to empathize with human struggles

[Lukongsimi]

In Christian theology, the blood of Jesus is considered essential for atoning for sins because it is believed to be the ultimate sacrifice that reconciles humanity with God. This concept is rooted in the Old Testament practice of animal sacrifices, which symbolized the covering of sins, and the New Testament understanding of Jesus as the final, perfect sacrifice. The shedding of his blood, culminating in his death on the cross, is seen as the means by which humanity's sins are forgiven and a relationship with God is restored. 

[pinkpanther]

 
When and Why did God promise?

5:20

AND, LO, Moses said unto his people:" O my people! Remember the blessings which God bestowed upon you when he raised up prophets among you, and made you your own masters, and granted unto you [favours] such as He had not granted to anyone else in the world.

5:21

O my people! Enter the holy land which God has promised you; but do not turn back [on your faith], for then you will be lost!"

You see! Allah did not grant the holy land to anyone else except the Israelites!

[Lukongsimi]

https://youtube.com/shorts/jYrLjywdWGE?s...JV9YLqKL0e

[Ali Imran]

5:20

AND, LO, Moses said unto his people:" O my people! Remember the blessings which God bestowed upon you when he raised up prophets among you, and made you your own masters, and granted unto you [favours] such as He had not granted to anyone else in the world.

5:21

O my people! Enter the holy land which God has promised you; but do not turn back [on your faith], for then you will be lost!"

You see! Allah did not grant the holy land to anyone else except the Israelites!

Did you see the condition of that promise?

Have they broken it? The answer is yes.

[Ali Imran]

But Hagar  was chase out of the house with her son Ishmael
Wife only a name only.

Why would a great Prophet pbuh, a patriarch of the Israelites, do such a bad thing?

[Lukongsimi]

Why would a great Prophet pbuh, a patriarch of the Israelites, do such a bad thing?

Ishmael was the son of a concubine (a secondary wife, or contract wife). As such, he was 'secondary' to Isaac, the son of Abraham's legal wife, Sarah.

[cheekopekman]

 
When and Why did God promise?

God had promised long ago to Abraham even before Isaac was born lah!  Isaac was the promised son, not Ishmael lah!

[Ali Imran]

Ishmael was the son of a concubine (a secondary wife, or contract wife). As such, he was 'secondary' to Isaac, the son of Abraham's legal wife, Sarah.

The Bible didn't say secondary or contract. Don't belittle the prophet.

So, why would a great prophet throw out his wife and his son?

[Lukongsimi]

The Bible didn't say secondary or contract. Don't belittle the prophet.

So, why would a great prophet throw out his wife and his son?

ISHMAEL’S MOCKING OF ISAAC
According to Genesis 21, it was not the birth of Isaac that stirred up trouble; it was his growth. When Isaac was born, Hagar and her son Ishmael were not bothered very much. But after Isaac had grown up, Ishmael began to mock him (v. 9). In the biblical sense, this means that Ishmael was persecuting Isaac. God even counted Ishmael’s persecution of Isaac as the beginning of the four-hundred-year persecution of His people (15:13; Acts 7:6). Ishmael’s mocking was a serious thing because Isaac was God’s ordained seed and Ishmael was the counterfeit

[Lukongsimi]

In the Bible, Hagar is presented as a concubine, specifically to Abraham. Initially, she was a maidservant to Sarah, Abraham's wife, who was unable to conceive. In an attempt to have a child, Sarah gave Hagar to Abraham as a concubine, leading to Hagar conceiving Ishmael. While considered a wife in some contexts, her position was secondary to Sarah's. 

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• [size=11]Context:
  [size=11]The story of Hagar unfolds in the Book of Genesis, where it's explained that Sarah, being barren, offered Hagar to Abraham to produce an heir. 
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• [size=11]Concubine Status:
  [size=11]Hagar's role is often described as a concubine, a secondary wife within the patriarchal structure. 
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• [size=11]Relationship with Abraham:
  [size=11]Hagar became Abraham's concubine and bore him his first son, Ishmael. 
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• [size=11]Sarah's Actions:
  [size=11]Sarah, after Hagar became pregnant, mistreated her, causing Hagar to flee into the wilderness. She was later instructed by an angel to return. 
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• [size=11]Ishmael's Birth:
  [size=11]Hagar returned and gave birth to Ishmael, who is considered the progenitor of the Ishmaelite people. 
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• [size=11]Final Separation:
  [size=11]Later, Sarah, concerned about Ishmael's potential inheritance, pressured Abraham to send Hagar and Ishmael away. God instructed Abraham to comply, and they were provided for in the wilderness[/size][/size]
  

[Lukongsimi]

In biblical genealogy, the term "Gentiles" primarily refers to people descended from Japheth, one of Noah's three sons. The other two sons, Shem and Ham, had lineages that are distinct from the "Gentiles". 

Here's a more detailed breakdown:

• Japheth: His descendants are often associated with the nations of Europe, Asia Minor, and parts of the Near East. The term "Gentile" is used in the Bible to distinguish these groups from the Israelites, who are primarily from the line of Shem. 
  
  
• Shem: His descendants are the focus of the Old Testament, with the Israelites being a prominent lineage. 
  
  
• Ham: His descendants are associated with Africa and parts of the Middle East. 
  
  

[Lukongsimi]

In the biblical story, Noah did not curse his son Ham directly. Instead, Noah cursed Canaan, Ham's son, after becoming aware of Ham's disrespectful act of seeing and revealing his father's nakedness. The curse on Canaan was that he would be a servant to his brothers and their descendants.
Here's a breakdown:
Noah's drunkenness and exposure: Noah became drunk and exposed himself in his tent.
Ham's action: Ham saw his father's nakedness and told his brothers, Shem and Japheth.
Shem and Japheth's response: Shem and Japheth, upon hearing of Noah's state, covered him with a garment while walking backward to avoid seeing his nakedness.
Noah's curse: When Noah awoke and learned what had happened, he cursed Canaan, Ham's son, not Ham himself. The curse stated that Canaan would be a servant to his brothers.
Purpose of the curse: The curse is interpreted as a prophecy regarding the future relationship between the Israelites (descendants of Shem) and the Canaanites (descendants of Canaan).

[pinkpanther]

Did you see the condition of that promise?

Have they broken it? The answer is yes.

 The promise God made to the Israelites is generally understood to be eternal, or everlasting.Please show me from your Quran where Allah states that He will revoke His promise if the Israelites fail to fulfill a specific condition, and pls specify what that condition is.

[Ali Imran]

 The promise God made to the Israelites is generally understood to be eternal, or everlasting.Please show me from your Quran where Allah states that He will revoke His promise if the Israelites fail to fulfill a specific condition, and pls specify what that condition is.

Did you see the condition given with the promise in that verse you quoted?

[Hope]

Allah gave the Holy land to the Israelites....it is what your Quran said.

Please quote the Quran verses

[Ali Imran]

ISHMAEL’S MOCKING OF ISAAC
According to Genesis 21, it was not the birth of Isaac that stirred up trouble; it was his growth. When Isaac was born, Hagar and her son Ishmael were not bothered very much. But after Isaac had grown up, Ishmael began to mock him (v. 9). In the biblical sense, this means that Ishmael was persecuting Isaac. God even counted Ishmael’s persecution of Isaac as the beginning of the four-hundred-year persecution of His people (15:13; Acts 7:6). Ishmael’s mocking was a serious thing because Isaac was God’s ordained seed and Ishmael was the counterfeit

According to the Bible, Hagar and Ishmael left when Ishmael was just a baby, which means, before Isaac was born.

So, how come the Bible can have stories like that?

[cheekopekman]

In the biblical story, Noah did not curse his son Ham directly. Instead, Noah cursed Canaan, Ham's son, after becoming aware of Ham's disrespectful act of seeing and revealing his father's nakedness. The curse on Canaan was that he would be a servant to his brothers and their descendants.
Here's a breakdown:
Noah's drunkenness and exposure: Noah became drunk and exposed himself in his tent.
Ham's action: Ham saw his father's nakedness and told his brothers, Shem and Japheth.
Shem and Japheth's response: Shem and Japheth, upon hearing of Noah's state, covered him with a garment while walking backward to avoid seeing his nakedness.
Noah's curse: When Noah awoke and learned what had happened, he cursed Canaan, Ham's son, not Ham himself. The curse stated that Canaan would be a servant to his brothers.
Purpose of the curse: The curse is interpreted as a prophecy regarding the future relationship between the Israelites (descendants of Shem) and the Canaanites (descendants of Canaan).

 The promise God made to the Israelites is generally understood to be eternal, or everlasting.Please show me from your Quran where Allah states that He will revoke His promise if the Israelites fail to fulfill a specific condition, and pls specify what that condition is.

God's promises in the Bible were not affected by human logic lah!  God initiated His own promises and He did not need anyone to agree or disagree lah!

[Hope]

Ishmael was the son of a concubine (a secondary wife, or contract wife). As such, he was 'secondary' to Isaac, the son of Abraham's legal wife, Sarah.

As per Bible, Sarah is also Abraham’s sister .

Can you explain How could God allow Abraham to have a child with his sister?

Could you update the details of the contract between Abraham and Hager?

Did God of Abraham accept Ishmael as a son of Abraham?

[pinkpanther]

Please quote the Quran verses

Let me give you the Blibical verses first

Ezekiel 11:17:
"Therefore say, 'Thus says the Lord GOD: “I will gather you from the peoples, assemble you from the countries where you have been scattered, and I will give you the land of Israel.”'" 

Ezekiel 36:24:
"For I will take you from the nations and gather you from all the countries and bring you into your own land."

[pinkpanther]

Please quote the Quran verses

Ayat Surah Al-Isra (17:104)

Yusuf Ali
And We said thereafter to the Children of Israel, “Dwell securely in the land (of promise)”: but when the second of the warnings came to pass, We gathered you together in a mingled crowd.

[pinkpanther]

Please quote the Quran verses

Surah Al-Ma'idah (5:21):

"O my people, enter the Holy Land which Allah has assigned to you and do not turn back [from fighting in Allah's cause] and [thus] become losers."

[Lukongsimi]

According to the Bible, Hagar and Ishmael left when Ishmael was just a baby, which means, before Isaac was born.

So, how come the Bible can have stories like that?

From your Koran or the Bible ?
Proof it

[pinkpanther]

Please quote the Quran verses

You have to agree with the Jewish and Christian scriptures...if you don agree then maybe the Quran is not true... the Quran is telling you that the land belongs to the Israelis.

[Lukongsimi]

As per Bible, Sarah is also Abraham’s sister .

Can you explain How could God allow Abraham to have a child with his sister?

Could you update the details of the contract between Abraham and Hager?

Did God of Abraham accept Ishmael as a son of Abraham?

God’s ways are higher than ours 
Ishamel is not the heir in the covenant planned by God 

But he was blessed with a great nation and lived life as a wild donkey

[Hope]

Allah gave the Holy land to the Israelites....it is what your Quran said.

Let me give you the Blibical verses first

Ezekiel 11:17:
"Therefore say, 'Thus says the Lord GOD: “I will gather you from the peoples, assemble you from the countries where you have been scattered, and I will give you the land of Israel.”'" 

Ezekiel 36:24:
"For I will take you from the nations and gather you from all the countries and bring you into your own land."

Ayat Surah Al-Isra (17:104)

Yusuf Ali
And We said thereafter to the Children of Israel, “Dwell securely in the land (of promise)”: but when the second of the warnings came to pass, We gathered you together in a mingled crowd.

Surah Al-Ma'idah (5:21):

"O my people, enter the Holy Land which Allah has assigned to you and do not turn back [from fighting in Allah's cause] and [thus] become losers."

Did you read all preceding verses?

[Lukongsimi]

Abraham and Sarah were both descendants of Terah, but not siblings in the immediate sense.
Half-Sister Explanation:
Abraham explained that Sarah was his half-sister to King Abimelech to avoid being killed by the Egyptians who might desire his beautiful wife, according to the Bible Space.