[Lukongsimi]

During hardship the moslems cry out to God and only Jesus appeared nobody else
Jesus is the only way truth n life

[Ali Imran]

Where in the bible does it says that Hager and Ishmael left before the birth of Isaac?

Isaac was born, according to the Bible, when Ishmael was already a full-grown late teenager.

The profile of Ishmael when leaving the household in Genesis 21 was that of a small child, not a full-grown man.

[Hope]

Which son did he try to sacrifice?

Ishmael ✌️👍

The event has been being commemorated(Hari Raya Haji) ONLY by Muslims last 1400 years.

There is a well called Zam Zam well in Mecca Grand mosque. Have you heard about this?This is the place where Ishmael kicked his feet ,water to gushed out.

There are two small mountains in the same mosque compound where Hajar ran for water.


There is  another place “Jamarat ”, 5 Km from Mecca Grand mosque,where Abraham encountered the devil. 

What proof Do you have to prove it was Issac?

Short Videos about Zam Zam well?


https://youtube.com/shorts/4KKU5_surbE?s...5_QqAPzeg6

[Hope]

That is why if u convert into their religion u will become a refugee 
Want ?
We need Christ the Good shepherd to lead us

Islam was not started after 9/11, 24 years ago.

Islam has been there over 1400 years.Muslim were not refugees then.

Muslim became refugees only after Jewish
Israel occupying Palestine and Christian America ,UK ,France invading Lebanon,Syria,Iraq, Afghanistan, Libiya.

[Hope]

During hardship the moslems cry out to God and only Jesus appeared nobody else
Jesus is the only way truth n life

Didn’t Jesus cry for help when he was on the cross?

Did Jesus cry out to himself ?

[pinkpanther]

Isaac was born, according to the Bible, when Ishmael was already a full-grown late teenager.

The profile of Ishmael when leaving the household in Genesis 21 was that of a small child, not a full-grown man.

You did not answer my question. It is a simple one
Where in the bible does it says that Hager and Ishmael left before the birth of Isaac?

[pinkpanther]

Ishmael ✌️👍

The event has been being commemorated(Hari Raya Haji) ONLY by Muslims last 1400 years.

There is a well called Zam Zam well in Mecca Grand mosque. Have you heard about this?This is the place where Ishmael kicked his feet ,water to gushed out.

There are two small mountains in the same mosque compound where Hajar ran for water.


There is  another place “Jamarat ”, 5 Km from Mecca Grand mosque,where Abraham encountered the devil. 

What proof Do you have to prove it was Issac?

Short Videos about Zam Zam well?


https://youtube.com/shorts/4KKU5_surbE?s...5_QqAPzeg6

Ishmael? Pls show me from your Quran that Abraham chose Ishmael to be sacrifice to God? No bidah my friend!

[Ali Imran]

You did not answer my question. It is a simple one
Where in the bible does it says that Hager and Ishmael left before the birth of Isaac?

Why dont you read properly? I wrote it for you. Genesis 21.

[pinkpanther]

Why dont you read properly? I wrote it for you. Genesis 21.

Hello ...Hagar and Ishmael leave after the birth of Isaac, not before..do you read properly?

[Ali Imran]

Hello ...Hagar and Ishmael leave after the birth of Isaac, not before..do you read properly?

The profile of Ishmael is that of a small child.

[pinkpanther]

The profile of Ishmael is that of a small child.

No..it only says a boy! Where did it says that Ishmael was a small child

[Lukongsimi]

No..it only says a boy! Where did it says that Ishmael was a small child

He needs to study English can’t understand lah

[Lukongsimi]

Ishmael? Pls show me from your Quran that Abraham chose Ishmael to be sacrifice to God? No bidah my friend!

He can’t proof lah

[Lukongsimi]

Hello ...Hagar and Ishmael leave after the birth of Isaac, not before..do you read properly?

We posted so many answers he can’t read lah

[Ali Imran]

No..it only says a boy! Where did it says that Ishmael was a small child

Isaac was born when Ishmael was 13. For that story of Ishmael taunting Isaac to happen, that would make Ishmael 15 or 17 when he and his mother left. But the profile of Ishmael in Genesis 21, where he was carried by his mother, points to a small child.

So it doesn't add up.

[Lukongsimi]

Moslems praying outside church ?

https://youtu.be/PggsoqTEsoE?si=waMCvTDygMtJT-73

[Lukongsimi]

Better follow the Lion of Judah than a wild donkey

[pinkpanther]

Isaac was born when Ishmael was 13. For that story of Ishmael taunting Isaac to happen, that would make Ishmael 15 or 17 when he and his mother left. But the profile of Ishmael in Genesis 21, where he was carried by his mother, points to a small child.

So it doesn't add up.

No..the text uses the Hebrew word "yeled," which can refer to a child from infancy to youth,

[pinkpanther]

Better follow the Lion of Judah than a wild donkey

[Ali Imran]

No..the text uses the Hebrew word "yeled," which can refer to a child from infancy to youth,

If the story of Ishmael taunting Isaac is true, that would mean Ishmael was 15-17 years old when he left with his mother. In Genesis 21, we read that his mother carried him. Would a mother need to carry her 17-year-old son?

[Ali Imran]

Better follow the Lion of Judah than a wild donkey

See how disrespectful the 2 Christians are.

[pinkpanther]

If the story of Ishmael taunting Isaac is true, that would mean Ishmael was 15-17 years old when he left with his mother. In Genesis 21, we read that his mother carried him. Would a mother need to carry her 17-year-old son?

What's wrong with the mother carrying her son if he is tired? At 15yrs old, Ishmael might just be a short and skinny boy..easy to carry

[Ali Imran]

What's wrong with the mother carrying her son if he is tired? At 15yrs old, Ishmael might just be a short and skinny boy..easy to carry

Ok noted.

[pinkpanther]

See how disrespectful the 2 Christians are.

But it is true..the Bible calls Ishmael the wild donkey   Are you his descendants? That makes you a donkey too

[Lukongsimi]

Follow what becomes what 

But it is true..the Bible calls Ishmael the wild donkey   Are you his descendants? That makes you a donkey too

[Hope]

Ishmael? Pls show me from your Quran that Abraham chose Ishmael to be sacrifice to God? No bidah my friend!

Please read verse 37:100-113



“My Lord! Bless me with righteous offspring.”

So We gave him good news of a forbearing 
son.

Then when the boy reached the age to work with him, Abraham said, “O my dear son! I have seen in a dream that I ˹must˺ sacrifice you. So tell me what you think.” He replied, “O my dear father! Do as you are commanded. Allah willing, you will find me steadfast.”

Then when they submitted ˹to Allah’s Will˺, and Abraham laid him on the side of his forehead ˹for sacrifice˺,

We called out to him, “O Abraham!

You have already fulfilled the vision.” Indeed, this is how We reward the good-doers.

That was truly a revealing test.

And We ransomed his son with a great sacrifice,

and blessed Abraham ˹with honourable mention˺ among later generations:

Peace be upon Abraham.”

This is how We reward the good-doers.

He was truly one of Our faithful servants.

We ˹later˺ gave him good news of Isaac—a prophet, and one of the righteous.

We blessed him and Isaac as well. Some of their descendants did good, while others clearly wronged themselves.”Quran 37:100-113

[Hope]

What's wrong with the mother carrying her son if he is tired? At 15yrs old, Ishmael might just be a short and skinny boy..easy to carry

This is what Quran say about his age.

Between 5-10?

Then when the boy reached the age to work with him,Abraham said, “O my dear son! I have seen in a dream that I ˹must˺ sacrifice you. So tell me what you think.” He replied, “O my dear father! Do as you are commanded. Allah willing, you will find me steadfast.”Quran 37-102

[pinkpanther]

Please read verse 37:100-113



“My Lord! Bless me with righteous offspring.”

So We gave him good news of a forbearing 
son.

Then when the boy reached the age to work with him, Abraham said, “O my dear son! I have seen in a dream that I ˹must˺ sacrifice you. So tell me what you think.” He replied, “O my dear father! Do as you are commanded. Allah willing, you will find me steadfast.”

Then when they submitted ˹to Allah’s Will˺, and Abraham laid him on the side of his forehead ˹for sacrifice˺,

We called out to him, “O Abraham!

You have already fulfilled the vision.” Indeed, this is how We reward the good-doers.

That was truly a revealing test.

And We ransomed his son with a great sacrifice,

and blessed Abraham ˹with honourable mention˺ among later generations:

Peace be upon Abraham.”

This is how We reward the good-doers.

He was truly one of Our faithful servants.

We ˹later˺ gave him good news of Isaac—a prophet, and one of the righteous.

We blessed him and Isaac as well. Some of their descendants did good, while others clearly wronged themselves.”Quran 37:100-113

Which version of the English Quran are you using? My Quran did not say Ishmael ..
When I ask you friend, he has no answer...but since you have an answer, you are indeed more knowledgeable than him

[Hope]

Hello ...Hagar and Ishmael leave after the birth of Isaac, not before..do you read properly?

Issac was born after Ishmael

We ˹later˺ gave him good news of Isaac—a prophet, and one of the righteous.

We blessed him and Isaac as well. Some of their descendants did good, while others clearly wronged themselves.”Quran 37:112-113

[Hope]

Please read verse 37:100-113



“My Lord! Bless me with righteous offspring.”

So We gave him good news of a forbearing 
son.

Then when the boy reached the age to work with him, Abraham said, “O my dear son! I have seen in a dream that I ˹must˺ sacrifice you. So tell me what you think.” He replied, “O my dear father! Do as you are commanded. Allah willing, you will find me steadfast.”

Then when they submitted ˹to Allah’s Will˺, and Abraham laid him on the side of his forehead ˹for sacrifice˺,

We called out to him, “O Abraham!

You have already fulfilled the vision.” Indeed, this is how We reward the good-doers.

That was truly a revealing test.

And We ransomed his son with a great sacrifice,

and blessed Abraham ˹with honourable mention˺ among later generations:

Peace be upon Abraham.”

This is how We reward the good-doers.

He was truly one of Our faithful servants.

We ˹later˺ gave him good news of Isaac—a prophet, and one of the righteous.

We blessed him and Isaac as well. Some of their descendants did good, while others clearly wronged themselves.”Quran 37:100-113

Which version of the English Quran are you using? My Quran did not say Ishmael ..
When I ask you friend, he has no answer...but since you have an answer, you are indeed more knowledgeable than him

Ishmael hans’t been mentioned. However you should read from 37:100 to 113 to understand the sequence of the story.it was Ishmael.

37:101mentioned the birth of offspring 

37:102mentioned the dream 

37:112mentioned the name of Isaac.

I have underlined those verses