[Ali Imran]

"O Jesus! I will cause you to die of natural causes and I will exalt you in honor in My Court and I will clear you of the slander of the disbelievers. I will cause those who truly follow you to dominate the rejecters until the Day of Resurrection. Eventually, all of you will return to Me, then I will judge among you about what you used to differ."

Whose translation is that? As far as I know, there is no "of natural causes" in that verse.

[Lukongsimi]

https://youtu.be/njL8er5HXl8

Amazing testimonies
Every knee shall bow to Jesus

[pinkpanther]

Whose translation is that? As far as I know, there is no "of natural causes" in that verse.

Literal

When God said: "You Jesus I am, I am making you die and raising you to Me and purifying you from those who disbelieved, and making those who followed you above those who disbelieved to the Resurrection Day, then to Me (is) your return, so I judge/rule between you in what, you were in it differing .

Shakir

And when Allah said: O Isa, I am going to terminate the period of your stay (on earth) and cause you to ascend unto Me and purify you of those who disbelieve and make those who follow you above those who disbelieve to the day of resurrection; then to Me shall be your return, so l will decide between you concerning that in which you differed.



Maulana Ali

When Allah said: O Jesus, I will cause thee to die and exalt thee in My presence and clear thee of those who disbelieve and make those who follow thee above those who disbelieve to the day of Resurrection. Then to Me is your return, so I shall decide between you concerning that wherein you differ.

Asad

Lo! God said: "O Jesus! Verily, I shall cause thee to die, and shall exalt thee unto Me, and cleanse thee of [the presence of] those who are bent on denying the truth; and I shall place those who follow thee [far] above those who are bent on denying the truth, unto the Day of Resurrection. In the end, unto Me you all must return, and I shall judge between you with regard to all on which you were wont to differ.

[Ali Imran]

Literal

When God said: "You Jesus I am, I am making you die and raising you to Me and purifying you from those who disbelieved, and making those who followed you above those who disbelieved to the Resurrection Day, then to Me (is) your return, so I judge/rule between you in what, you were in it differing .

Shakir

And when Allah said: O Isa, I am going to terminate the period of your stay (on earth) and cause you to ascend unto Me and purify you of those who disbelieve and make those who follow you above those who disbelieve to the day of resurrection; then to Me shall be your return, so l will decide between you concerning that in which you differed.



Maulana Ali

When Allah said: O Jesus, I will cause thee to die and exalt thee in My presence and clear thee of those who disbelieve and make those who follow thee above those who disbelieve to the day of Resurrection. Then to Me is your return, so I shall decide between you concerning that wherein you differ.

Asad

Lo! God said: "O Jesus! Verily, I shall cause thee to die, and shall exalt thee unto Me, and cleanse thee of [the presence of] those who are bent on denying the truth; and I shall place those who follow thee [far] above those who are bent on denying the truth, unto the Day of Resurrection. In the end, unto Me you all must return, and I shall judge between you with regard to all on which you were wont to differ.

How come you didn't pick your usual Hilal Khan translation?

[pinkpanther]

How come you didn't pick your usual Hilal Khan translation?

Hilali Khan supports Jesus ascending to heaven without any problem

[Ali Imran]

Hilali Khan supports Jesus ascending to heaven without any problem

So do many other interpretations.

[pinkpanther]

So do many other interpretations.

Out of 10 translations...5 said that Allah took away the life...so go to the mosque this Friday and ask your Imam

[Ali Imran]

Out of 10 translations...5 said that Allah took away the life...so go to the mosque this Friday and ask your Imam

We will come to know when we need to know.

[pinkpanther]

So do many other interpretations.

"I bear witness that there is no god but Allah, and I bear witness that Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah"

Every moslem bear witness that there is only Allah but never a testimony about Him

You bear witness that Muhammad is the messenger of Allah but you have never seen him before

Do you moslems know the definition of the word "witness"

[pinkpanther]

We will come to know when we need to know.

Ok so you are not clear because the Quran does not know which way to go...

Ok noted!

[Ali Imran]

"I bear witness that there is no god but Allah, and I bear witness that Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah"

Every moslem bear witness that there is only Allah but never a testimony about Him

You bear witness that Muhammad is the messenger of Allah but you have never seen him before

Do you moslems know the definition of the word "witness"

I testify that there is no god but Allah.

I testify that Muhammad is the messenger of Allah.

[Ali Imran]

Ok so you are not clear because the Quran does not know which way to go...

Ok noted!

Yes, we are not clear about where or what happened to Jesus, pbuh.

We are only told that he wasn't killed or crucified.

[pinkpanther]

I testify that there is no god but Allah.

I testify that Muhammad is the messenger of Allah.

Can you testify in a court without any evidences?

[Ali Imran]

Can you testify in a court without any evidences?

Can a belief without evidence be true?

[pinkpanther]

Yes, we are not clear about where or what happened to Jesus, pbuh.

We are only told that he wasn't killed or crucified.

He wasn't killed or crucified during His capture!
The next scenerio is where the dilemma started because Allah took him up...whether dead or alive..that is where the issue lies

[pinkpanther]

Can a belief without evidence be true?

Can you bear witness and testify the truth of a belief?

[Ali Imran]

He wasn't killed or crucified during His capture!
The next scenerio is where the dilemma started because Allah took him up...whether dead or alive..that is where the issue lies

Already told you. We are not clear on that.

[Ali Imran]

Can you bear witness and testify the truth of a belief?

I am proof that I hold the belief in Allah.

[pinkpanther]

I am proof that I hold the belief in Allah.

But you can't even prove His existent ...there is not a testimony of him.

Atheists can also say that humans are the proof of the existence of Aliens

[pinkpanther]

Already told you. We are not clear on that.

Ok..so the Quran is not clear.

Thank you

[Ali Imran]

Ok..so the Quran is not clear.

Thank you

That depends. On that issue, it is either this or that.

But the Quran is clear the Jesus pbuh was neither killed nor crucified.

[Ali Imran]

But you can't even prove His existent ...there is not a testimony of him.

Atheists can also say that humans are the proof of the existence of Aliens

Is there any testimony of the God of Jesus?

[pinkpanther]

That depends. On that issue, it is either this or that.

But the Quran is clear the Jesus pbuh was neither killed nor crucified.

The Quran is clear that He was neither killed or crucified during His capture...this I can agree with the Quran...

What comes after that is where I find it unacceptable.
A sinless man, his gospel lost according to the will of Allah and then unalive without a chance to plead...

[pinkpanther]

Is there any testimony of the God of Jesus?

Yes...you can hear the testimonies from christians. you can find them on YouTube as well...we are proud to bear witness to the "only true God!"

[Ali Imran]

Yes...you can hear the testimonies from christians. you can find them on YouTube as well...we are proud to bear witness to the "only true God!"

So you can use those testimonies as well. The God of Jesus is the God we Muslims worship.

[Ali Imran]

The Quran is clear that He was neither killed or crucified during His capture...this I can agree with the Quran...

What comes after that is where I find it unacceptable.
A sinless man, his gospel lost according to the will of Allah and then unalive without a chance to plead...

Yes, he pleaded while in the garden. But you believe his plea fell on deaf ears. 

We believe God heard his plea and granted it, saved him.

[pinkpanther]

Yes, he pleaded while in the garden. But you believe his plea fell on deaf ears. 

We believe God heard his plea and granted it, saved him.

It was His destiny, He predicted His death 3 times..It was a honorable death and His purpose was fulfilled...a sinless man bearing the sins of the world..

You believe God heard His plead, saved Him and unalive Him on his way to heaven?

[Ali Imran]

You believe God heard His plead, saved Him and unalive Him on his way to heaven?

No, I believe he is still alive and awaiting time to return.

[Ali Imran]

It was His destiny, He predicted His death 3 times..It was a honorable death and His purpose was fulfilled...a sinless man bearing the sins of the world..

That doesn't fit the rest of the story.

He said, clearly, that his purpose is to save the lost sheep of the house of Israel.

He pleaded with God to save him from being killed.

[pinkpanther]

So you can use those testimonies as well. The God of Jesus is the God we Muslims worship.

No. It is 2 different Gods. The Islamic God can never have a relationship with his creations. There is a hierarchy.