Scripture readings for Christmas

(29-07-2025, 10:52 AM)Ali Imran Wrote:  So Jesus had modes, like Jeckyll and Hyde.

So when they wanted to stone him and he was afraid, he was in human mode but not in God mode.

It's only going to get worse for you as we continue.

If He weeps, if he drinks, if he pleads, if he runs away...that is all due to His human side...isn't that simple to explain?

Feeding 5000, walking on water, healing sick, blind, raising the deads...that is due to His God's self taking over...

It is not me who controls when He feels to be in God's mode... Allahu A'lam
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(29-07-2025, 10:58 AM)Ali Imran Wrote:  So it's honorable to be a slave of God, right?

Does God wants you to be His slave ..according to Islam
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(29-07-2025, 10:52 AM)Ali Imran Wrote:  So Jesus had modes, like Jeckyll and Hyde.

So when they wanted to stone him and he was afraid, he was in human mode but not in God mode.

It's only going to get worse for you as we continue.

When there are sufferings, Jesus takes it on His human self...

When Jesus goes out to miracle acts .that is His God self taking over
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(29-07-2025, 11:08 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:  When there are sufferings, Jesus takes it on His human self...

When Jesus goes out to miracle acts .that is His God self taking over

So, he can change modes, or are both modes active all the time, such that when he is in human mode, he is still aware that he is also God?
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(29-07-2025, 11:01 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Does God wants you to be His slave ..according to Islam

We are His slaves, regardless of whether we want or don't want.
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(29-07-2025, 11:17 AM)Ali Imran Wrote:  So, he can change modes, or are both modes active all the time, such that when he is in human mode, he is still aware that he is also God?

Just like superman!
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(29-07-2025, 11:19 AM)Ali Imran Wrote:  We are His slaves, regardless of whether we want or don't want.

We believe in a loving Father who will offer comfort, hope and a sense of belonging...you can have a Father and son/daughter relationship with him!

So are you worshipping the God of the Christians as above?
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(29-07-2025, 11:27 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:  We believe in a loving Father who will offer comfort, hope and a sense of belonging...you can have a Father and son/daughter relationship with him!

So are you worshipping the God of the Christians as above?

I worship the God of Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, and Jesus, peace be on all of them.
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(29-07-2025, 11:24 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Just like superman!

So when he was pleading with God to save him, was he just pretending?
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(29-07-2025, 11:32 AM)Ali Imran Wrote:  So when he was pleading with God to save him, was he just pretending?

He was not pretending...He was afraid.
He could turned to God's mode on the cross but He has to fulfill His destiny, His purpose.
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(29-07-2025, 11:29 AM)Ali Imran Wrote:  I worship the God of Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, and Jesus, peace be on all of them.

Why did you leave out Ishmael? He is your forefather!
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(29-07-2025, 11:41 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:  He was not pretending...He was afraid.
He could turned to God's mode on the cross but He has to fulfill His destiny, His purpose.

I thought you said he is like Clark Kent?

Did Jesus know he was also God at that time or not? If Jesus knew that he was also God at the time he was pleading with God, that means he was pretending to be just a human without the immortality of God.
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(29-07-2025, 11:43 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Why did you leave out Ishmael? He is your forefather!

No. Who told you that?

Our forefather is Prophet Abraham, pbuh.
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(29-07-2025, 11:43 AM)Ali Imran Wrote:  I thought you said he is like Clark Kent?

Did Jesus know he was also God at that time or not? If Jesus knew that he was also God at the time he was pleading with God, that means he was pretending to be just a human without the immortality of God.

Ken Clark is generally an ordinary person and he becomes Superman when the situation calls for it. ..does he also feel pain,sufferings and joy as a human? Yes!

Dying on the cross doesn't mean He is exercising His immortality powers....rather, it reflects His human nature.  

To die and then be resurrected is an expression of His divinity as God.
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(29-07-2025, 11:44 AM)Ali Imran Wrote:  No. Who told you that?

Our forefather is Prophet Abraham, pbuh.

So Ishmael who is the ancestor of Muhammad is not worth a mention?
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(29-07-2025, 12:02 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  So Ishmael who is the ancestor of Muhammad is not worth a mention?

Yes, worth a mention. All the prophets are worth mentioning, peace be upon them.
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(29-07-2025, 12:01 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Ken Clark is generally an ordinary person and he becomes Superman when the situation calls for it. ..does he also feel pain,sufferings and joy as a human? Yes!

Dying on the cross doesn't mean He is exercising His immortality powers....rather, it reflects His human nature.  

To die and then be resurrected is an expression of His divinity as God.

When Clark Kent was working, he pretended to be an ordinary human without superpowers, even though he was aware that he had superpowers. 

So Jesus the same, pretending to be an ordinary human?
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(29-07-2025, 12:05 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  When Clark Kent was working, he pretended to be an ordinary human without superpowers, even though he was aware that he had superpowers. 

So Jesus the same, pretending to be an ordinary human?

Jesus only taps on His divine powers only when the situation arises.

Ken Clark pretends to be an ordinary human because He didn't want to get expose but Jesus wasn't pretending to be an ordinary human when He performs miracles
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(29-07-2025, 12:18 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Jesus only taps on His divine powers only when the situation arises.

Ken Clark pretends to be an ordinary human because He didn't want to get expose but Jesus wasn't pretending to be an ordinary human when He performs miracles

So when he was praying to God to save him, he was pretending to pray, knowing fully well that he is also God, immortal and able to save himself?
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(29-07-2025, 12:31 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  So when he was praying to God to save him, he was pretending to pray, knowing fully well that he is also God, immortal and able to save himself?

He wasn't pretending because he didn't understand what it would mean for him to bear the weight of the sins of the world...

That is why Jesus is born sinless..that is His purpose

Compared Him to the Islamic Jesus ..He is literally not utilizing the sinless nature
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(29-07-2025, 12:40 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  He wasn't pretending because he didn't understand what it would mean for him to bear the weight of the sins of the world...

That is why Jesus is born sinless..that is His purpose

Compared Him to the Islamic Jesus ..He is literally not utilizing the sinless nature

Jesus is God and he doesn't understand what it means? 

Isn't God all-knowing?
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(29-07-2025, 12:46 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Jesus is God and he doesn't understand what it means? 

Isn't God all-knowing?

As a human he doesn't know..
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(29-07-2025, 12:51 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  As a human he doesn't know..

So Jesus as a human is not God?
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(29-07-2025, 12:59 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  So Jesus as a human is not God?

He has to fulfill His role and purpose.
Because He is God, He is still alive till this day

Can a human be alive for 3000+ yrs?
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(29-07-2025, 01:05 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  He has to fulfill His role and purpose.
Because He is God, He is still alive till this day

Can a human be alive for 3000+ yrs?

(29-07-2025, 12:51 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  As a human he doesn't know..

If Jesus as a human is God, how come he doesn't know?
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(29-07-2025, 01:18 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  If Jesus as a human is God, how come he doesn't know?

He is aware of His destiny... isn't that significant enough? How much more details do you need?

It is already more than what the Quran can disclose
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Jesus told the Pharisees that they “belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father’s desire.” The fact that those who are not saved are not children of God is also seen in 1 John 3:10:

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(29-07-2025, 02:40 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  Jesus told the Pharisees that they “belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father’s desire.” The fact that those who are not saved are not children of God is also seen in 1 John 3:10:

If you don't belong to God you belong to Satan lah! Big Grin
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(29-07-2025, 01:44 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  He is aware of His destiny... isn't that significant enough? How much more details do you need?

It is already more than what the Quran can disclose

You said Jesus didn’t understand. So I'm asking how is it that Jesus the God didn’t understand?
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(29-07-2025, 04:01 PM)cheekopekman Wrote:  If you don't belong to God you belong to Satan lah! Big Grin

The thief comes to steal,kill n destroy lah

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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