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(31-07-2025, 07:37 PM)pinkpanther Wrote: He will ask to check IC first 
Pachik that time will shiver liao
Knees weaken n fell on the ground prostrate
Lord lord I know you
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““Look, he is coming with the clouds,” and “every eye will see him, even those who pierced him”; and all peoples on earth “will mourn because of him.” So shall it be! Amen. “I am the Alpha and the Omega,” says the Lord God, “who is, and who was, and who is to come, the Almighty.””
Revelation 1:7-8 NIV
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(31-07-2025, 07:57 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote: Pachik that time will shiver liao
Knees weaken n fell on the ground prostrate
Lord lord I know you
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jesus will say :" Ali, do you now believe!"
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“Therefore God exalted him to the highest place and gave him the name that is above every name, that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth, and every tongue acknowledge that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father. Therefore, my dear friends, as you have always obeyed—not only in my presence, but now much more in my absence—continue to work out your salvation with fear and trembling, for it is God who works in you to will and to act in order to fulfill his good purpose.”
Philippians 2:9-13 NIV
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(31-07-2025, 07:56 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote: The phrase "every knee shall bow" appears in the Bible, most notably in Philippians 2:10-11 and Isaiah 45:23. It signifies the ultimate acknowledgment and submission to Jesus Christ as Lord, either in reverence and worship or in judgment.
In Isaiah 45:23, isn't it the Father speaking?
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(31-07-2025, 07:43 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: Who said that "... all knees shall bow"?
Apostle Paul lah!
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(31-07-2025, 08:03 PM)pinkpanther Wrote: jesus will say :" Ali, do you now believe!"
Too late to repent Liao.
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(31-07-2025, 08:32 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: In Isaiah 45:23, isn't it the Father speaking?
“Tell ye, and bring them near; yea, let them take counsel together: who hath declared this from ancient time? who hath told it from that time? have not I the LORD? and there is no God else beside me; a just God and a
saviour ; there is none beside me.”
Isaiah 45:21 KJV
Jesus was speaking
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(31-07-2025, 08:37 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote: Too late to repent Liao.
Never too late for repentance lah!
That criminal was saved at last minute lah!
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(31-07-2025, 08:45 PM)cheekopekman Wrote: Never too late for repentance lah! That criminal was saved at last minute lah!
Judgement day can repent?
Means nobody gg to hell Liao?
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(31-07-2025, 08:41 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote: “Tell ye, and bring them near; yea, let them take counsel together: who hath declared this from ancient time? who hath told it from that time? have not I the LORD? and there is no God else beside me; a just God and a saviour ; there is none beside me.”
Isaiah 45:21 KJV
Jesus was speaking
Is that the opinion of Bible scholars? Most Bible commentaries say it is the Father speaking.
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(31-07-2025, 08:49 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: Is that the opinion of Bible scholars? Most Bible commentaries say it is the Father speaking.
The Father n Jesus are one can’t u read God and the saviour ?
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(31-07-2025, 08:51 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote: The Father n Jesus are one can’t u read God and the saviour ?
The words are in 1st person, only 1 person speaking.
Is it Jesus or the Father?
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(31-07-2025, 08:55 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: The words are in 1st person, only 1 person speaking.
Is it Jesus or the Father?
Same person
Jesus participated in the creation of the world therefore, He is our Creator. 2. Jesus, who created flesh and blood, became flesh and blood so that He could die for our sins and set us free from death. So not only is He our Creator, He is our Savior!
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(31-07-2025, 08:58 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote: Same person
Jesus participated in the creation of the world therefore, He is our Creator. 2. Jesus, who created flesh and blood, became flesh and blood so that He could die for our sins and set us free from death. So not only is He our Creator, He is our Savior!
Jesus and the Father are 2 separate persons of the Trinity.
The Son is not the Father.
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(31-07-2025, 09:06 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: Jesus and the Father are 2 separate persons of the Trinity.
The Son is not the Father.
“But about the Son he says, “Your throne, O God, will last for ever and ever; a scepter of justice will be the scepter of your kingdom. You have loved righteousness and hated wickedness; therefore God, your God, has set you above your companions by anointing you with the oil of joy.” He also says, “In the beginning, Lord, you laid the foundations of the earth, and the heavens are the work of your hands. They will perish, but you remain; they will all wear out like a garment. You will roll them up like a robe; like a garment they will be changed. But you remain the same, and your years will never end.””
Hebrews 1:8-12 NIV
https://bible.com/bible/111/heb.1.8-12.NIV
Father and Son are one God
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(31-07-2025, 09:15 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote: “But about the Son he says, “Your throne, O God, will last for ever and ever; a scepter of justice will be the scepter of your kingdom. You have loved righteousness and hated wickedness; therefore God, your God, has set you above your companions by anointing you with the oil of joy.” He also says, “In the beginning, Lord, you laid the foundations of the earth, and the heavens are the work of your hands. They will perish, but you remain; they will all wear out like a garment. You will roll them up like a robe; like a garment they will be changed. But you remain the same, and your years will never end.””
Hebrews 1:8-12 NIV
https://bible.com/bible/111/heb.1.8-12.NIV
Father and Son are one God
But they are separate person according to the Trinity. So who was speaking in Isaiah 45:23?
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(31-07-2025, 09:18 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: But they are separate person according to the Trinity. So who was speaking in Isaiah 45:23?
U don’t understand lah after so many explanations since the start of the thread cos u r not a Christian simple as that
Only Christian believe it moslem don’t
U are here to argue not to learn
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Moslems only believe their muh n allah
To explain our belief is to give them chance to attack
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