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(02-08-2025, 12:34 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  U don’t even know your religion is 1 plus 1 salah
Dare to ask my church ?
Won’t tell u 
U will use it to attack

There is no other god but One God. And Muhammad is a servant of God. That is our testimony of faith. 

Its okay if you want to keep your denomination a secret. I'm only asking because I've never heard of your doctrine of the Trinity. It is unique.
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Kia see lang !

https://youtu.be/p47R7nRwurM?si=dgvrINaJxIYX8CZq

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(02-08-2025, 12:41 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  Kia see lang !

https://youtu.be/p47R7nRwurM?si=dgvrINaJxIYX8CZq

It is forbidden in Islam for a man to marry his daughter.
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(02-08-2025, 11:42 AM)Ali Imran Wrote:  I was here all morning but I didn't post anything until pinky came by and mock my religion. 

I didn't come into this thread until pinky started attacking my religion.

What I do is just read

Rotfl look at it from another angle..I'm promoting the Hadith..
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(02-08-2025, 12:46 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  What I do is just read

Rotfl look at it from another angle..I'm promoting the Hadith..

I know you cannot do anything but mock nowadays.
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(02-08-2025, 12:40 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  There is no other god but One God. And Muhammad is a servant of God. That is our testimony of faith. 

But you don bear witness to any of them..
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(02-08-2025, 12:47 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  I know you cannot do anything but mock nowadays.

Not that I cannot do anything...you cannot provide me the answers so there is no more continuation.
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(02-08-2025, 12:47 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  I know you cannot do anything but mock nowadays.

Why you want to go to the battlefield? Does Islam ask you to take the lives of others so that Allah will be please with you?

Quran 47:4

So when you meet the disbelievers ˹in battle˺, strike ˹their˺ necks until you have thoroughly subdued them, then bind them firmly. Later ˹free them either as˺ an act of grace or by ransom until the war comes to an end. So will it be. Had Allah willed, He ˹Himself˺ could have inflicted punishment on them. But He does ˹this only to˺ test some of you by means of others. And those who are martyred in the cause of Allah,1 He will never render their deeds void.
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(02-08-2025, 12:49 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  But you don bear witness to any of them..

I am a witness that I believe in Allah and the Messenger of Allah. I will stand witness against you.
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(02-08-2025, 12:51 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Not that I cannot do anything...you cannot provide me the answers so there is no more continuation.

What answers? My faith is simple to understand. We believe God is one. Even a child can understand that. You said you believe in one God but you also believe that there are 3 Gods. No one can explain that logically.
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I'm going out for lunch at Warong Pedas, an idyllic location 20 minutes from my home.
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(02-08-2025, 01:06 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  I am a witness that I believe in Allah and the Messenger of Allah. I will stand witness against you.

You are a witness? How can you be a witness when you have never seen Allah, nor do you have any testimony of His existence...Next, can you tell me how the messenger of Allah looks like since you are a witness?
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(02-08-2025, 01:10 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  I'm going out for lunch at Warong Pedas, an idyllic location 20 minutes from my home.

You should make your wife cook and not let her be lazy...hit her lightly if she refuses to listen Big Grin

That is what the Quran teaches
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(02-08-2025, 01:09 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  What answers? My faith is simple to understand. We believe God is one. Even a child can understand that. You said you believe in one God but you also believe that there are 3 Gods. No one can explain that logically.

There are plenty of things logic cannot explain...do you think you can understand God using your logic?
Hinduism came 5000 years before Islam and they believe in the Trinity..the concept of the Trinity was older than tawhid!
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(02-08-2025, 01:22 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  There are plenty of things logic cannot explain...do you think you can understand God using your logic?
Hinduism came 5000 years before Islam and they believe in the Trinity..the concept of the Trinity was older than tawhid!

Your version of the Trinity came about 300 years after Jesus.

Prophet Abraham's faith was tawhid. So too Prophet Moses and Prophet Jesus. They were all monotheists.

Peace be upon them.
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(02-08-2025, 01:22 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  There are plenty of things logic cannot explain...do you think you can understand God using your logic?

We believe in God's existence using logic. The famous argument for God's existence, known as the Kalam cosmological argument, is based on logic.

The Trinity is illogical.
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(02-08-2025, 01:18 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  You are a witness? How can you be a witness when you have never seen Allah, nor do you have any testimony of His existence...Next, can you tell me how the messenger of Allah looks like since you are a witness?

Yes, I may be a witness against you. I only said "may be" because I do not know where you will be on that day. 

"Did not a warner come to you to warn you about this?"
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(02-08-2025, 02:39 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Your version of the Trinity came about 300 years after Jesus.

Prophet Abraham's faith was tawhid. So too Prophet Moses and Prophet Jesus. They were all monotheists.

Peace be upon them.

The word Tawhid came after the death of Muhammad ..it was never mentioned in the Quran

Mind you, we are monotheists
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(02-08-2025, 02:47 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  The word Tawhid came after the death of Muhammad ..it was never mentioned in the Quran

Mind you, we are monotheists

Do you seriously think the Arabic language was only invented after the death of Muhammad صلي الله عليه وسلم?
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(02-08-2025, 02:47 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Mind you, we are monotheists

I disagree. You say with your mouth that you're a monotheist, but you believe in 3 persons who are all fully God.
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(02-08-2025, 02:44 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Yes, I may be a witness against you. I only said "may be" because I do not know where you will be on that day. 

"Did not a warner come to you to warn you about this?"

To be a witness you need to identify who I am  Laughing
You cannot suka suka be a witness without evidences..your so called "faith" is not good enough
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(02-08-2025, 02:54 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  To be a witness you need to identify who I am  Laughing
You cannot suka suka be a witness without evidences..your so called "faith" is not good enough

We'll see on THAT day.
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(02-08-2025, 02:54 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  I disagree. You say with your mouth that you're a monotheist, but you believe in 3 persons who are all fully God.

Yes..that is monotheism for you...one being in three co-equal persons!

That is exactly how we are made..one man made up of a body,spirit and soul!
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(02-08-2025, 02:57 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  That is exactly how we are made..one man made up of a body,spirit and soul!

Our soul is spirit. It's non-tangible like our body.
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(02-08-2025, 02:57 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Yes..that is monotheism for you...one being in three co-equal persons!

According to LKSM, the Father and the Son are one person. How come you have 3 persons in your Trinity?
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(02-08-2025, 02:57 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  We'll see on THAT day.

That would be a million years from now..by then you wouldnt remember a thing Big Grin and God would not be interested in your trivial matters Big Grin
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(02-08-2025, 02:57 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Yes..that is monotheism for you...one being in three co-equal persons!

Can you find that notion, "one being in three co-equal persons" anywhere in the Bible?
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(02-08-2025, 02:59 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  According to LKSM, the Father and the Son are one person. How come you have 3 persons in your Trinity?

The Father and son are one in divine nature
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(02-08-2025, 03:00 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Can you find that notion, "one being in three co-equal persons" anywhere in the Bible?

The great commission
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(02-08-2025, 03:00 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  That would be a million years from now..by then you wouldnt remember a thing Big Grin and God would not be interested in your trivial matters Big Grin

Everything is recorded and I'm not surprised that you don't know that.

That means, you have not read the Bible fully.
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