Scripture readings for Christmas

(02-08-2025, 03:02 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  The great commission

Did the great commission say the 3 are co-equal and that they are one God?

Don't fool yourself.
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(02-08-2025, 03:02 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  The Father and son are one in divine nature

LKSM said they are ONE PERSON. But you said there are 3 persons in the Trinity. 

How come yours is different from LKSM?
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(02-08-2025, 03:05 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Everything is recorded and I'm not surprised that you don't know that.

That means, you have not read the Bible fully.

Why do you think God would be interested to bring  you up as a witness and not a defendant? Big Grin
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(02-08-2025, 03:12 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Why do you think God would be interested to bring  you up as a witness and not a defendant? Big Grin

Yeah.. go ahead and mock. Be like the people who mocked Jesus and Noah.
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(02-08-2025, 03:07 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  LKSM said they are ONE PERSON. But you said there are 3 persons in the Trinity. 

How come yours is different from LKSM?

What he meant is the Father and son are one in divine nature lah....
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(02-08-2025, 03:13 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Yeah.. go ahead and mock. Be like the people who mocked Jesus and Noah.

But you are no Jesus and Noah...stop comparing yourself to them  Laughing
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(02-08-2025, 03:13 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  What he meant is the Father and son are one in divine nature lah....

Nope. I clarified with her. I told her that the mainstream Christian doctrine of the Trinity says God is 3 persons in one being, but she insisted the Father and the Son is ONE PERSON.
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(02-08-2025, 03:15 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  But you are no Jesus and Noah...stop comparing yourself to them  Laughing

You mocked the faith of a man (Muhammad صلي الله عليه وسلم) because you don't believe he was sent by God, just like those people who mocked Jesus because they don't believe he was sent by God.
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(02-08-2025, 03:16 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  You mocked the faith of a man (Muhammad صلي الله عليه وسلم) because you don't believe he was sent by God, just like those people who mocked Jesus because they don't believe he was sent by God.

I never mock Muhammad for a long time ..I mock the Hadith which were written by men.. Big Grin
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(02-08-2025, 03:15 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Nope. I clarified with her. I told her that the mainstream Christian doctrine of the Trinity says God is 3 persons in one being, but she insisted the Father and the Son is ONE PERSON.

There is a misunderstanding somewhere lah...his Bible knowledge is good ok..

Is he referring to the verse " the Father and me are one"
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(02-08-2025, 03:13 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  What he meant is the Father and son are one in divine nature lah....

Even after I told her about the Trinity as understood by most Christians, which says "3 persons in one being", she still insisted that they are all 1 person.

(02-08-2025, 12:15 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  Both are one person Father and Son 

(02-08-2025, 12:29 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  We are talking about the Father and Son 
Included the Holy Spirit is also one person
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(02-08-2025, 03:33 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Even after I told her about the Trinity as understood by most Christians, which says "3 persons in one being", she still insisted that they are all 1 person.

Being and person can get mix up.. I am guilty of it myself
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(02-08-2025, 03:37 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Being and person can get mix up.. I am guilty of it myself

So you think she was mistaken in saying the Father and the Son are one person?
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(02-08-2025, 03:37 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  So you think she was mistaken in saying the Father and the Son are one person?

Just a typo error..it can happen anytime
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(02-08-2025, 12:15 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  Both are one person Father and Son 
Your muh and your Allah are  two person

That old fart likes to find loopholes to attack 
I mean both are same 1 God 
Father and Son are One including the Holy Spirit 3 are one God

Understand ?
His is 2 in 1 man and god

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(02-08-2025, 03:21 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  There is a misunderstanding somewhere lah...his Bible knowledge is good ok..

Is he referring to the verse " the Father and me are one"
He purposely find fault with us lah 
Jinn possessed maybe !

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(02-08-2025, 04:26 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  He purposely find fault with us lah 
Jinn possessed maybe !

He finds fault with everything...even the trees and chairs are not spared from his abuse Big Grin
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(02-08-2025, 03:06 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Did the great commission say the 3 are co-equal and that they are one God?

Don't fool yourself.

You can only get baptized in the highest name! 
What are those names? In the name of the Father, the son and the Holy spirit...This is the most high!

So don fool yourself thinking you know best
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(31-07-2025, 04:44 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Don't you know that we must wash our faces, hands, and feet before every prayer, just like Jesus also did?
Bible says go to your closet and pray to the Father in secret 
Don’t come and teach us what your books says u are worshipping a man muh

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(02-08-2025, 04:22 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  That old fart likes to find loopholes to attack 
I mean both are same 1 God 
Father and Son are One including the Holy Spirit 3 are one God

Understand ?

Ok. Understand. The Father and the Son are separate persons.

So who is speaking in Isaiah 45?
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(02-08-2025, 04:46 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  You can only get baptized in the highest name! 
What are those names? In the name of the Father, the son and the Holy spirit...This is the most high!

So don fool yourself thinking you know best
He knows nothing only mock

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(02-08-2025, 04:16 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Just a typo error..it can happen anytime

A typo, in the context writing, is a spelling error.
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(02-08-2025, 04:48 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Ok. Understand. The Father and the Son are separate persons.

So who is speaking in Isaiah 45?

Definitely it’s not your muh who spoke

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(02-08-2025, 03:13 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  What he meant is the Father and son are one in divine nature lah....

"My Father and I are one." Jesus said that lah! Big Grin
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(02-08-2025, 04:46 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  You can only get baptized in the highest name! 
What are those names? In the name of the Father, the son and the Holy spirit...This is the most high!

So don fool yourself thinking you know best

We are talking about the Trinity and I was asking you if you can find any notion of the Trinity. 

The Great Commission is not talking about the Trinity. 

The Christian Trinity only came about 300 years after Jesus.
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(02-08-2025, 04:50 PM)cheekopekman Wrote:  "My Father and I are one." Jesus said that lah! Big Grin

Yes lah Big Grin
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(02-08-2025, 04:50 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  Definitely it’s not your muh who spoke

Ok course.

But that does not answer the question. Who is speaking in Isaiah 45? I'm asking because the statements we read in Isaiah 45 is speaking in the 1st person, meaning only 1 person.

It's okay to say "I don't know".
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(02-08-2025, 04:51 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  We are talking about the Trinity and I was asking you if you can find any notion of the Trinity. 

The Great Commission is not talking about the Trinity. 

The Christian Trinity only came about 300 years after Jesus.



The Trinity is strongly implied and it lays the foundation for understanding the triune nature of God as three distinct persons in one divine being.
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(02-08-2025, 04:53 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Ok course.

But that does not answer the question. Who is speaking in Isaiah 45? I'm asking because the statements we read in Isaiah 45 is speaking in the 1st person, meaning only 1 person.

It's okay to say "I don't know".
Already answered your q bef 
Don’t be a parrot

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(02-08-2025, 04:44 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  He finds fault with everything...even the trees and chairs are not spared from his abuse Big Grin
He is an annoying old man no wonder has to go Java away from his family

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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