Scripture readings for Christmas

(8 hours ago)pinkpanther Wrote:  I also dare not say that the God that I prayed to is the same as Muhammad's God Big Grin

You are not praying to any real God.

Real God should be holy from taking a form of his creation.
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(8 hours ago)Hope Wrote:   God mean Jesus or Father in the heaven + Jesus + Holy sprit ?


As per Islam,Angels appeared in human form to give a good news of an offspring.

Quran never mentioned that Jacob wrestled with Allah.In Islam all the messengers, prophets including 25 prophets mentioned in Quran were obedient servants.

Why did Jacob wrestle ?

Ok .your Quran always never mention anything..it always leave you clueless ...

Jacob is trying to secure God's blessing through wrestling...this is written in the Torah and gospel confirmed by Jesus and Muhammad....why is your Quran not showing? Big Grin
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(7 hours ago)Hope Wrote:  You are not praying to any real God.

Real God should be holy from taking a form of his creation.

Our true God has many testimonies, Jesus is alive, moslems dream about Jesus, the Holy spirit is around...

I like to ask you where is the evidences of Allah?
It is better for you to believe in aliens because you might just find a piece of evidence from the Americans but you will have no chance of an evidence to prove the existent of Allah
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(7 hours ago)Hope Wrote:  Did Jesus create all the disable people?
Did Jesus create all the non believers?
Did Jesus create African,Chinese and Indian people?
Can Your God take the form of Human,Angels, Satan,reptiles, Birds, Animals?

Allahu A'lam...these are God's will
My God can choose to become what He wants because He is God and there is no restrictions on Him

You say God cannot be a human and cannot be a bird...you are telling God what to do Big Grin
No one tells God what to do!
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(8 hours ago)pinkpanther Wrote:  Yes He alone creates with the help of Jesus and the Holy spirit

What help did he take from Jesus and Holy Sprit when he created Jesus and Holy Sprit?

Who was created first by your trinity?
Universe?
God?
Jesus?
Holy sprit?
Angels?
Satan?
Human?
Other creatures?
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(7 hours ago)pinkpanther Wrote:  Our true God has many testimonies, Jesus is alive, moslems dream about Jesus, the Holy spirit is around...

I like to ask you where is the evidences of Allah?
It is better for you to believe in aliens because you might just find a piece of evidence from the Americans but you will have no chance of an evidence to prove the existent of Allah

Their Allah remains a mystery 
No sound no pic

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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  • Day 1: God created light and separated it from darkness, calling them "day" and "night". 

  • Day 2: God created the sky (firmament) and separated the waters above from the waters below. 

  • Day 3: God gathered the waters, forming seas, and created dry land. He also created vegetation, including plants and trees. 

  • Day 4: God created the sun, moon, and stars to provide light and mark seasons. 

  • Day 5: God created sea creatures and birds. 

  • Day 6: God created land animals and, finally, humans in His own image. 

  • Day 7: God rested, blessing and sanctifying the seventh day

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(8 hours ago)Lukongsimi Wrote:  Better don’t 
If Islam is for the world why need to pray in Arabic ?
It’s for Arabs right?

Arab population in Islam is less than 14%.

It is for unity among believers and also not to miss remembering your God wherever you are.

If you are a Chinese speaking only Chinese, you will not miss the prayers/ remembrance even if you are in non Chinese speaking countries.

You can comfortably enter any mosque as the prayer is conducted in one global common language.

Go and see in the mosque at Arab street, all the Muslim tourists to Singapore pray in that mosque as a grand nation.The mosque is open for visitors from 10-12 and 2-4.I suggest you to visit during 2-4 session.

Visit any mosque in Singapore you will see Malays, Bangla, Indian and other nationalities praying in the same mosque.
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(7 hours ago)Lukongsimi Wrote:  Their Allah remains a mystery 
No sound no pic

Ya...like in a hiding
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(7 hours ago)Hope Wrote:  Arab population in Islam is less than 14%.

It is for unity among believers and also not to miss remembering your God wherever you are.

If you are a Chinese speaking only Chinese, you will not miss the prayers/ remembrance even if you are in non Chinese speaking countries.

You can comfortably enter any mosque as the prayer is conducted in one global common language.

Go and see in the mosque at Arab street, all the Muslim tourists to Singapore pray in that mosque as a grand nation.

Visit any mosque in Singapore you will see Malays, Bangla, Indian and other nationalities praying in the same mosque.
If I enter the mosque I will be a traitor to my God
No thanks
The only mosque I entered once was an abandoned old mosque to take a look what was inside

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(8 hours ago)pinkpanther Wrote:  Ya ..why need to understand God in Arabic?

God created all the languages even the animals ,plants and computer languages.

God can understand all his creations.


For a unity and not to miss our prayers when we are in foreign land, we pray in one common language, the language of the Quran,the language of the prophet.
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(6 hours ago)Hope Wrote:  God created all the languages even the animals and ,plants and computer languages.

God can understand all his creations.


For a unity and not to miss our prayers when we are in foreign land, we pray in one common language, the language of the Quran,the language of the prophet.

God does not force anyone to pray in His language...
We can pray in English, Malay, Hindi to our God..God does not require us to understand Arabic to know Him

Only a false God will require you to pray in His language and take up Arabic to understand His words
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(7 hours ago)Hope Wrote:  What help did he take from Jesus and Holy Sprit when he created Jesus and Holy Sprit?

Who was created first by your trinity?
Universe?
God?
Jesus?
Holy sprit?
Angels?
Satan?
Human?
Other creatures?

Jesus is with the Father since the beginning of time...
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(6 hours ago)pinkpanther Wrote:  God does not force anyone to pray in His language...
We can pray in English, Malay, Hindi to our God..God does not require us to understand Arabic to know Him

Only a false God will require you to pray in His language and take up Arabic to understand His words

God understands Human languages 
Even can pray in dialects
Jesus speaks Aramaic not Arabic
His angels speak English to me

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(8 hours ago)Lukongsimi Wrote:  So many left out
Maybe save time to copy?

Quran was not copied from bible.

You may find some common verses as Scrolls, psalm( given to David) Torah (Given to Moses) Gospel ( given to Jesus) are from the same source.

If copied from bible, Quran should have mentioned the trinity. Instead Quran upholds the oneness of the God.
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(8 hours ago)pinkpanther Wrote:  So the angels are more powerful than Allah..because Allah has limitations..He can't take on human form Big Grin

Allah is not desperate or pathetic to take the form his creations .

Everything under his control including the sun, moon, day, night, rain , life,death, your sustenance
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(8 hours ago)pinkpanther Wrote:  To know the truth..they need to read the Bible! The Bible is detailed and is the supreme authority over the Quran

Quran came after scrolls, Psalm, Torah and Gospel.

Hence the Quran supersedes all the previous scriptures given to those prophets.Those are not valid once the Quran came to the whole humanity.

No more scriptures after Quran. It has been 1447 years since Quran was revealed.

No more prophets to come.

Only the messiah , Jesus will return to live and die as a human before end of the world.
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(6 hours ago)Hope Wrote:  Quran was not copied from bible.

You may find some common verses as Scrolls, psalm( given to David) Torah (Given to Moses) Gospel ( given to Jesus) are from the same source.

If copied from bible, Quran should have mentioned the trinity. Instead Quran upholds the oneness of the God.
Few like 
 kill Christians n Jews are not copied 
Got to sin in order to be forgiven is not copied
About marriages is not copied

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(8 hours ago)Lukongsimi Wrote:  It’s the name of God Jehovah
in the Koran?


In the Bible, Abraham called God "Jehovah-jireh," which means "the Lord will provide". This name was given after God provided a ram for sacrifice instead of Abraham's son, Isaac, during a test of Abraham's faith. The event is recorded in Genesis 22:14

Allah is an Arabic word for the God who created and managing this universe.

Quran doesn’t mentioned anything about Jehovah or its followers.

Quran mentioned the names of 25 prophets and 4 scriptures and 1 scrolls.
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(8 hours ago)Lukongsimi Wrote:  But it  doesn’t mean God can’t change himself to a man or anything He likes since He is all powerful 
He was a burning bush when Moses saw Him at mount Sinai

Quran mentioned the burning bush and speaking to Moses.
Never mentioned Allah appeared in human form .
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(8 hours ago)Lukongsimi Wrote:  God is not a man is right 
But it doesn’t mean God can’t change Himself to a man since He created us in His image 
U got to understand it in full not cherry pick

In Hinduism Gods can change to many forms.

Is it the same in Christianity?
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(8 hours ago)Hope Wrote:  Jesus was born sinless because he is born with the sprit of Allah.

(8 hours ago)pinkpanther Wrote:  Good..can the spirit of Allah in jesus tell lies?

Who says Jesus lied?

We say that your books are full of lies.
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(8 hours ago)Lukongsimi Wrote:  Koran eaten by sheep is enough proof 
Now so many versions of Koran which one is the truth 
Even the moslems argue with each other

Quran was not eaten by goat.

When Quran verse was revealed, it was memorised and written simultaneously.

Nothing can be lost.
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(8 hours ago)Lukongsimi Wrote:  The 2 moslems try hard to destroy our faith hard lah
Better u don’t waste time here
If to argue more u will get agitated n call us names lol

Why should we destroy your belief?We can’t destroy if your belief is strong.

We don’t gain anything.

We are sharing our beliefs about Jesus, David, Moses, Jacob, Issac, Abraham and their God.
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(8 hours ago)Hope Wrote:   God mean Jesus or Father in the heaven + Jesus + Holy sprit ?


As per Islam,Angels appeared in human form to give a good news of an offspring.

Quran never mentioned that Jacob wrestled with Allah.In Islam all the messengers, prophets including 25 prophets mentioned in Quran were obedient servants.

Why did Jacob wrestle ?

(7 hours ago)Lukongsimi Wrote:  Read the Bible if you want to know why Jacob wrestled with God 
So that it can absorb deep into your mind without forgetting it 
Koran don’t tell much still lagging behind the Bible

Haven’t you read the story?
I know because it is in OT😂
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(7 hours ago)Lukongsimi Wrote:  In order to live as man and dwells among man to fulfill His mission on earth

Why should he dwell in the womb for 280 days like other humans?

As a person who performed so many miracles even in his own conception,Why couldn’t he do another miracle to shorten the period in the womb?

280 days are like one school academic year .
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(6 hours ago)Hope Wrote:  Who says Jesus lied?

We say that your books are full of lies.

Allah and Muhammad certainly do not say our book is full of lies...can Allah's words be changed? If it can be altered and corrupted then Allah is lying...because He can't protect His own revelation
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(6 hours ago)Hope Wrote:  Who says Jesus lied?

We say that your books are full of lies.

Your Quran is lacking in details and lies...
Muhammad told us that Jesus said Ahmad can be found in the Torah and the gospel but after 2000+ years ..we have not found his name..

Why is Muhammad lying about Jesus?
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(5 hours ago)Hope Wrote:  Why should he dwell in the womb for 280 days like other humans?

As a person who performed so many miracles even in his own conception,Why couldn’t he do another miracle to shorten the period in the womb?

280 days are like one school academic year .

Who are you to suggest what should be to God ?   Laughing

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(6 hours ago)Hope Wrote:  Haven’t you read the story?
I know because it is in OT😂
U know why u ask?
U know it’s in the OT but not sure the story is all about

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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