Scripture readings for Christmas

(10-08-2025, 06:24 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  God is merciful He doesn’t change to teach u how to do evil.

According to what you're saying about atonement, God has changed. I've explained it clearly to you.
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(10-08-2025, 06:25 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  U talk only no proof to proof u know

Go google johannine comma and let AI educate you on that verse.
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(10-08-2025, 06:25 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  According to what you're saying about atonement, God has changed. I've explained it clearly to you.

God didn’t change He gives us another hope for salvation 
Where else your Koran says need to commit sin or your allah will replace u with some one else 
It’s in the Koran don’t deny it !

As a dog returns to its vomit, so fools repeat their folly
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(10-08-2025, 06:27 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Go google johannine comma and let AI educate you on that verse.

oh I see
U are trained by A1 not revelation from God 
can believe?

As a dog returns to its vomit, so fools repeat their folly
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(10-08-2025, 06:18 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  I admit that I know little, but the little I know is way more than both of you combined.

You brought up the Geneva convention as the criteria...so did the ottoman follow this criteria?
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(10-08-2025, 05:51 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Have you seen the Arabic Bible?

Did u?

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(10-08-2025, 06:25 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  According to what you're saying about atonement, God has changed. I've explained it clearly to you.

God has changed? Yeah if you don commit sins, Allah will wipe you out of existence and replace you with others....that's right, Allah has changed!
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(10-08-2025, 06:32 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  God has changed? Yeah if you don commit sins, Allah will wipe you out of existence with others....that's right, Allah has changed!

Correct their god changed not our God

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(10-08-2025, 06:29 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  oh I see
U are trained by A1 not revelation from God 
can believe?

You need to know the history of the NT. Scholars have written many books on that history, especially since the 20th century, when scholarship on ancient manuscripts became widespread.
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(10-08-2025, 06:31 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  Did u?

Below is a sample of the Gospel of John chapter 1, in Arabic. I've highlighted wherever the name Allah is seen in that image.

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(10-08-2025, 06:35 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  You need to know the history of the NT. Scholars have written many books on that history, especially since the 20th century, when scholarship on ancient manuscripts became widespread.

U believe the scholars n u seek guidance from them but not on God

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(10-08-2025, 06:37 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Below is a sample of the Gospel of John chapter 1, in Arabic. I've highlighted wherever the name Allah is seen in that image.

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That one your Koran not the bible
Sheep also know its error n ate it up

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(10-08-2025, 06:38 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  U believe the scholars n u seek guidance from them but not on God

You rely on scholars too. Where did your faith in the Trinity come from? Scholars. Who translated the Greek manuscripts into English for you? Scholars.
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(10-08-2025, 06:39 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  That one your Koran not the bible
Sheep also know its error n ate it up

LOL

It is John chapter 1, not the Quran.

https://www.copticchurch.net/bible?r=John+1&version=SVD&showVN=1
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(10-08-2025, 06:42 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  LOL

It is John chapter 1, not the Quran.

https://www.copticchurch.net/bible?r=John+1&version=SVD&showVN=1
Arabic translations of the Bible emerged after the rise of Islam, as Jews and Christians in Arabic-speaking lands sought to make the scriptures accessible in their own language and also as a response to the Quran. 

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(10-08-2025, 06:40 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  You rely on scholars too. Where did your faith in the Trinity come from? Scholars. Who translated the Greek manuscripts into English for you? Scholars.
U believe in scholars too.
How can trust which scholars u like?

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(10-08-2025, 06:46 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  U believe in scholars too.
How can trust which scholars u like?

Like how he pick and choose biblical verses to attack...he chose scholars who were bias towards the Bible....there are many scholars who attest to the authenticity of the Bible but he ignores them!
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(10-08-2025, 06:46 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  U believe in scholars too.
How can trust which scholars u like?

Yes, I will always refer to scholars, both Muslims and non-Muslims, depending on the subject at hand.
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(10-08-2025, 06:44 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  Arabic translations of the Bible emerged after the rise of Islam, as Jews and Christians in Arabic-speaking lands sought to make the scriptures accessible in their own language and also as a response to the Quran. 

Ok. At least we can now agree that it is the Gospel of John, not the Quran.
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(10-08-2025, 07:06 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Yes, I will always refer to scholars, both Muslims and non-Muslims, depending on the subject at hand.

When did you ever refer to Moslem scholars? Name me one! I bet you don even know any of them Big Grin

You can only name 2 scholars to support your case...one is Bart Ehrman who believes that Jesus was indeed crucified. He argues that the crucifixion is one of the best-attested events in Jesus's life, supported by multiple historical sources. Big Grin

The other you always choose is Bart's mentor Bruce metzger whom many consider his approach to Bible translation and interpretation to be biased
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We will miss the rapture because of internet 
Better don’t come here anymore.

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(10-08-2025, 06:31 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  You brought up the Geneva convention as the criteria...so did the ottoman follow this criteria?

No, I didn't bring up the Geneva convention as a criteria.

I brought it up to show you what a foolish person you are. Remember what you said? Here, let me remind you.

(10-08-2025, 05:05 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Do you have laws during war? No!

You don't even know about the Geneva Convention, and you want to discuss the history of the Ottomans with me? LOL
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(11-08-2025, 07:02 AM)Ali Imran Wrote:  No, I didn't bring up the Geneva convention as a criteria.

I brought it up to show you what a foolish person you are. Remember what you said? Here, let me remind you.


You don't even know about the Geneva Convention, and you want to discuss the history of the Ottomans with me? LOL

That's why you're not using any intelligence or iq, if you have any to begin with. You have started to become lazy again by not tapping into your iq...and that is why I'm trying to help improve your mental well-being .

 Do you really think I don't know about the Geneva Convention? I specifically mentioned the Ottoman and Japanese to demonstrate that there are no universal laws in war because they fight without applying any rules...

Does it makes sense to you if I bring up nations that fight a good war by observing thethe rules for my argument? No! I'm tell you there are no laws in engagement

I can cite many good eg

That is exactly what Islam does to you! It takes away some parts of your brain capacity because you don apply any IQ or EQ...critical thinking is lacking sadly!
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(11-08-2025, 09:23 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:  That is exactly what Islam does to you! It takes away some parts of your brain capacity because you don apply any IQ or EQ...critical thinking is lacking sadly!

Your faith doesn't allow you to do critical thinking. You are told to believe what is illogical, and you're not allowed to question it.
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(11-08-2025, 09:42 AM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Your faith doesn't allow you to do critical thinking. You are told to believe what is illogical, and you're not allowed to question it.

Pls support your argument
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(11-08-2025, 10:53 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Pls support your argument

You believe that the 3 persons are all fully 100% God. So you have 3 fully 100% Gods. But you deny you believe in 3 fully 100% Gods.
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(11-08-2025, 10:57 AM)Ali Imran Wrote:  You believe that the 3 persons are all fully 100% God. So you have 3 fully 100% Gods. But you deny you believe in 3 fully 100% Gods.

They are fully God as they share the same divine nature.

You have 6 Imrans, all sharing the same bloodline but each unique in their own way. Together, they form a family under one Imran....who could be the father? Perhaps you!  

Can you marry a bapok? The general consensus is a No from your family members but who is speaking? Anyone of them can stand up and represent the opinion of your family because they are all equal in your household

If you wish to own a house but lack the funds, what would you do? You would will and ask all the children to contribute a little money to help you get closer to buying the house...tiok boh? Are they not following your will abeit unwillingly at times like how Jesus prayed to be save because He is scared and unwilling to face death as a human
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(11-08-2025, 11:15 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:  They are fully God as they share the same divine nature.

You have 6 Imrans, all sharing the same bloodline but each unique in their own way. Together, they form a family under one Imran....who could be the father? Perhaps you!  

Can you marry a bapok? The general consensus is a No from your family members but who is speaking? Anyone of them can stand up and represent the opinion of your family because they are all equal in your household

If you wish to own a house but lack the funds, what would you do? You would will and ask all the children to contribute a little money to help you get closer to buying the house...tiok boh? Are they not following your will abeit unwillingly at times like how Jesus prayed to be save because He is scared and unwilling to face death as a human

So this divine family is made up of 3 fully 100% Gods, correct?
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(11-08-2025, 11:33 AM)Ali Imran Wrote:  So this divine family is made up of 3 fully 100% Gods, correct?

They are one God manifested in three distinct, yet unified, ways.

You are 1 Imran, and your children are a manifestation of your lewd intentions. Laughing
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(11-08-2025, 11:39 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:  They are one God manifested in three distinct, yet unified, ways.

You are 1 Imran, and your children are a manifestation of your lewd intentions. Laughing

My family is made up of many humans.

The divine family you believe in is made up of 3 fully 100% Gods.

End of the story.
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