Scripture readings for Christmas

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(20-08-2025, 03:21 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  He already agreed that he believes in three Gods, which he groups and names as One God.

Me, myself and I all belong to one
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(20-08-2025, 03:22 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  You wish. 

LOL

Which Quran is the truth? We have so many Qurans with so many scholars' interpretations
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Where is SimTan? Haven't heard from him for ages!
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(20-08-2025, 03:21 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  He already agreed that he believes in three Gods, which he groups and names as One God.
Not him it’s u

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(20-08-2025, 09:25 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Where is SimTan? Haven't heard from him for ages!
He said busy moving house 
Maybe tired of parrot lol

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(20-08-2025, 09:23 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Which Quran is the truth? We have so many Qurans with so many scholars' interpretations
He only believe in weird books lol

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(20-08-2025, 09:23 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Which Quran is the truth? We have so many Qurans with so many scholars' interpretations

There is only 1 Quran.
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(20-08-2025, 09:21 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Me, myself and I all belong to one

Are they pointing to the same 1 person?
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Only born again Christians understand, believe and accept the theology of the Holy Trinity 3 in 1 God lah! Big Grin To others that's nonsense and rubbish lah!
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(21-08-2025, 06:53 AM)cheekopekman Wrote:  Only born again Christians understand, believe and accept the theology of the Holy Trinity 3 in 1 God lah! Big Grin To others that's nonsense and rubbish lah!

I would not call it rubbish. 

I reject it because it is illogical, and no prophets of God, the chosen people God sent to mankind to teach us about God, have ever said God is 3 in 1.
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(21-08-2025, 06:49 AM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Are they pointing to the same 1 person?

They all belong to the same being
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(21-08-2025, 06:48 AM)Ali Imran Wrote:  There is only 1 Quran.

Who is the author of the one kitab call the Quran?
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(21-08-2025, 08:22 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:  They all belong to the same being

Are you a being? Are you 1 person?
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(21-08-2025, 08:23 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Who is the author of the one kitab call the Quran?

We believe Allah is the author of the Quran.
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(21-08-2025, 08:26 AM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Are you a being? Are you 1 person?

Yes.i am a human being
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(21-08-2025, 08:27 AM)Ali Imran Wrote:  We believe Allah is the author of the Quran.

Who is the author of the lastest Quran?
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(21-08-2025, 08:27 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Yes.i am a human being

So your "me, myself, and I", they all belong to 1 person. But you believe in 3 persons, all of whom are fully 100% Gods, albeit you group them and name it "1 God", correct?
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(21-08-2025, 08:28 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Who is the author of the lastest Quran?

There is only 1 Quran, and we believe the author is Allah.
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(21-08-2025, 07:04 AM)Ali Imran Wrote:  I would not call it rubbish. 

I reject it because it is illogical, and no prophets of God, the chosen people God sent to mankind to teach us about God, have ever said God is 3 in 1.

You believe Jesus is sinless, we believe as well..Would Jesus commit blasphemy against God by claiming to be equal to Him?

If He is sinless ..would he have commit a sin by claiming to be God? Yes! And if He is God and say it as it is..then there is no blasphemy
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(21-08-2025, 08:30 AM)Ali Imran Wrote:  There is only 1 Quran, and we believe the author is Allah.

Who is the author of the 1924 Cairo edition of the hafs Quran?
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(21-08-2025, 08:34 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:  You believe Jesus is sinless, we believe as well..Would Jesus commit blasphemy against God by claiming to be equal to Him?

If He is sinless ..would he have commit a sin by claiming to be God? Yes! And if He is God and say it as it is..then there is no blasphemy

Jesus said his God is greater than him.
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(21-08-2025, 08:35 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Who is the author of the 1924 Cairo edition of the hafs Quran?

There is only 1 Quran and we believe it is 100% the verbatim word of Allah.
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(21-08-2025, 08:26 AM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Are you a being? Are you 1 person?
U 1 person with soul and spirit = 3
God is a spirit n Holy Spirit also a spirit can’t be seen only Jesus can be seen = 3 in 1
Understand ?

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(21-08-2025, 08:51 AM)Ali Imran Wrote:  There is only 1 Quran and we believe it is 100% the verbatim word of Allah.

The Quran is not preserved and is corrupted


The famous statement and belief is that “Allah” wrote the Quran. But did Allah truly write the Quran or was it revealed to Muhammad who was incapable of writing the Quran. It was actually revealed in 7 dialects from Allah because certain tribes or groups didn’t know how to speak the other dialects. Therefore, the different lands had different preservations and memorizations of the Quran which is why after Muhammad died (which is when Qurans started being written), muslims were at disagreement and war with each other. Muslims we’re calling other muslims disbelievers because they believed in a different Quran.
If the different Qurans say the same, why would they feel the need to call other ones disbelievers.. the differences had to be great, which I have examples. But back to the history, Caliph Uthman decided out of his own will (not Allah’s or Muhammad’s order) to destroy the other Allah Given Qurans by burning them (sin) and he chose a council of muslims (some were companions of Muhammad) and re created a standardized Quran. Not the original, but his version. Remember, Muhammad told these companions different versions of the Quran so many did disagree yet we are still here to believe that there is only one Quran, when actuality, there is more than 26 Qurans in Arabic where the words are changed, which changes the meaning.
So I ask again, is the Quran today actually Allah’s word, or is it corrupted like every religion is supposedly. Let’s not forget sheep ate pages. Others were lost.
And to debunk this theory, if they memorized it perfectly, which lets say they did.. Allah sent 7 dialects. Muhammad taught different versions. If they were the same, why would one muslim feel to call others disbelievers ? Why would Uthman feel the need to make HIS OWN PERSONAL QURAN WITHOUT DIVINE REVELATION or COMMAND ?

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(21-08-2025, 07:04 AM)Ali Imran Wrote:  I would not call it rubbish. 

I reject it because it is illogical, and no prophets of God, the chosen people God sent to mankind to teach us about God, have ever said God is 3 in 1.

For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.”
‭‭1 John‬ ‭5‬:‭7‬ ‭KJV‬‬

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(21-08-2025, 09:58 AM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  The Quran is not preserved and is corrupted


The famous statement and belief is that “Allah” wrote the Quran. But did Allah truly write the Quran or was it revealed to Muhammad who was incapable of writing the Quran. It was actually revealed in 7 dialects from Allah because certain tribes or groups didn’t know how to speak the other dialects. Therefore, the different lands had different preservations and memorizations of the Quran which is why after Muhammad died (which is when Qurans started being written), muslims were at disagreement and war with each other. Muslims we’re calling other muslims disbelievers because they believed in a different Quran.
If the different Qurans say the same, why would they feel the need to call other ones disbelievers.. the differences had to be great, which I have examples. But back to the history, Caliph Uthman decided out of his own will (not Allah’s or Muhammad’s order) to destroy the other Allah Given Qurans by burning them (sin) and he chose a council of muslims (some were companions of Muhammad) and re created a standardized Quran. Not the original, but his version. Remember, Muhammad told these companions different versions of the Quran so many did disagree yet we are still here to believe that there is only one Quran, when actuality, there is more than 26 Qurans in Arabic where the words are changed, which changes the meaning.
So I ask again, is the Quran today actually Allah’s word, or is it corrupted like every religion is supposedly. Let’s not forget sheep ate pages. Others were lost.
And to debunk this theory, if they memorized it perfectly, which lets say they did.. Allah sent 7 dialects. Muhammad taught different versions. If they were the same, why would one muslim feel to call others disbelievers ? Why would Uthman feel the need to make HIS OWN PERSONAL QURAN WITHOUT DIVINE REVELATION or COMMAND ?

The Quran is protected from tampering. 

If you would like to know more, you may ask me. I will do my best to answer your question.
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(21-08-2025, 10:01 AM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.”
‭‭1 John‬ ‭5‬:‭7‬ ‭KJV‬‬

The last biblical prophet was 2000+ years ago.

That verse was written less than 1000 years ago.

So my statement remains true. No prophet of God ever taught the Trinity.
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(21-08-2025, 10:04 AM)Ali Imran Wrote:  The last biblical prophet was 2000+ years ago.

That verse was written less than 1000 years ago.

So my statement remains true. No prophet of God ever taught the Trinity.
Your Koran also written many years later after your muh death

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(21-08-2025, 10:04 AM)Ali Imran Wrote:  The last biblical prophet was 2000+ years ago.

That verse was written less than 1000 years ago.

So my statement remains true. No prophet of God ever taught the Trinity.
Your Koran also written many years later after your muh death 
Moslem believe a god with no name and a man 
We believe God Who is I am His name
God of Abraham Isaac and Jacob not Ishmael

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