[Ali Imran]

The original Quran was recited and written with so many differences...so which one is the original recitation?

The original recitation was recited by Prophet Muhammad صلي الله عليه وسلم. The first 200+ Hafiz learned it from the Prophet, and they passed it down. 

Whenever I recite the Quran, I'm reciting the original.

[pinkpanther]

There is no such thing as original. The original Quran is recited, not written.

Is the uthman Quran same as the 1925 Cairo edition of the hafs Quran? Not entirely 

The 1924 Quran is a purpose-designed and manipulated text built on one selected reading that ignored many other legitimate texts that existed throughout Islamic history. We cannot be confident in today’s Quran as a true representation of the text that initially appeared in a seventh-century Arabian desert.

[Ali Imran]

Is the uthman Quran same as the 1925 Cairo edition of the hafs Quran? Not entirely 

Yes, 100% the same.

[pinkpanther]

The original recitation was recited by Prophet Muhammad صلي الله عليه وسلم. The first 200+ Hafiz learned it from the Prophet, and they passed it down. 

Whenever I recite the Quran, I'm reciting the original.

Which version of the Quran did Muhammad recite?
Which dialect did he use?

[Ali Imran]

The 1924 Quran is a purpose-designed and manipulated text built on one selected reading that ignored many other legitimate texts that existed throughout Islamic history. We cannot be confident in today’s Quran as a true representation of the text that initially appeared in a seventh-century Arabian desert.

Who is that we?

As for us Muslims, we are 100% sure the Quran we have today is pristine.

[pinkpanther]

Yes, 100% the same.

You are misrepresenting once again

Minor textual variations or orthographic differences may exist between the original Uthmanic manuscript and the printed Cairo Edition, but these are generally well-documented and accepted within the Islamic scholarly community.

[pinkpanther]

Who is that we?

As for us Muslims, we are 100% sure the Quran we have today is pristine.

We are the scholars.

[Ali Imran]

Which version of the Quran did Muhammad recite?
Which dialect did he use?

Prophet Muhammad صلي الله عليه وسلم was a Quraish. He spoke in the Quraishi dialect. About 90% of the Muslims recite the Quran in that dialect, including the Muslims in this region.

[Ali Imran]

We are the scholars.

Please show me where you c/p it from.

[pinkpanther]

Who is that we?

As for us Muslims, we are 100% sure the Quran we have today is pristine.

Where are the original manuscripts?

[Ali Imran]

You are misrepresenting once again

Minor textual variations or orthographic differences may exist between the original Uthmanic manuscript and the printed Cairo Edition, but these are generally well-documented and accepted within the Islamic scholarly community.

Please don't pretend you know better than our scholars.

[pinkpanther]

Prophet Muhammad صلي الله عليه وسلم was a Quraish. He spoke in the Quraishi dialect. About 90% of the Muslims recite the Quran in that dialect, including the Muslims in this region.

So the other 6 dialects are formulated by other men..

[Ali Imran]

Where are the original manuscripts?

The primary method of transmission and preservation is via memorization.

[Ali Imran]

So the other 6 dialects are formulated by other men..

The word is not formulated but recited.

All the various recitations with different dialects were approved by the Prophet صلي الله عليه وسلم.

[pinkpanther]

Please don't pretend you know better than our scholars.

 You don know much about the differences do you

Yes, you are correct. While the 1925 Cairo edition of the Hafs Quran is widely regarded as a standard and authoritative printed version, many scholars acknowledge that there are certain differences between the original Uthmanic manuscript and the printed Cairo edition. These differences can include:

Orthographic Variations: The Cairo edition incorporates modern orthography and diacritical marks, which may differ from the script used in the original Uthmanic manuscript. These variations are often made to facilitate reading and pronunciation according to contemporary standards.

Vowel and Consonant Marks: Slight differences in the placement or number of vowels, consonant elongations, and other phonetic markers can occur, reflecting the attempt to standardize pronunciation for a broad audience.

Textual Variations: Some minor textual differences, such as variations in spelling, diacritical accents, or the inclusion/exclusion of certain punctuation, may exist. These are often the result of editorial choices or efforts to unify different recitation traditions.

Recitation Traditions: The Uthmanic text was based on the Qira'at (recitation methods) prevalent at the time, primarily the Hafs an Asim transmission. The Cairo edition is based on Hafs but may incorporate updates or standardizations that differ slightly from the earliest Uthmanic copies.

Scholarly consensus recognizes that while these differences are generally minor and do not affect the core message or divine message of the Quran, they are part of the historical and textual development of the Quranic text.

In conclusion:
The 1925 Cairo edition is a highly authoritative and widely accepted printed version of the Quran, based on the Hafs recitation and rooted in the Uthmanic tradition. However, scholars note that some differences exist between the original Uthmanic manuscript and this edition, mainly due to orthographic, phonetic, and editorial updates over time.

[Ali Imran]

 You don know much about the differences do you

Yes, you are correct. While the 1925 Cairo edition of the Hafs Quran is widely regarded as a standard and authoritative printed version, many scholars acknowledge that there are certain differences between the original Uthmanic manuscript and the printed Cairo edition. These differences can include:

Orthographic Variations: The Cairo edition incorporates modern orthography and diacritical marks, which may differ from the script used in the original Uthmanic manuscript. These variations are often made to facilitate reading and pronunciation according to contemporary standards.

Vowel and Consonant Marks: Slight differences in the placement or number of vowels, consonant elongations, and other phonetic markers can occur, reflecting the attempt to standardize pronunciation for a broad audience.

Textual Variations: Some minor textual differences, such as variations in spelling, diacritical accents, or the inclusion/exclusion of certain punctuation, may exist. These are often the result of editorial choices or efforts to unify different recitation traditions.

Recitation Traditions: The Uthmanic text was based on the Qira'at (recitation methods) prevalent at the time, primarily the Hafs an Asim transmission. The Cairo edition is based on Hafs but may incorporate updates or standardizations that differ slightly from the earliest Uthmanic copies.

Scholarly consensus recognizes that while these differences are generally minor and do not affect the core message or divine message of the Quran, they are part of the historical and textual development of the Quranic text.

In conclusion:
The 1925 Cairo edition is a highly authoritative and widely accepted printed version of the Quran, based on the Hafs recitation and rooted in the Uthmanic tradition. However, scholars note that some differences exist between the original Uthmanic manuscript and this edition, mainly due to orthographic, phonetic, and editorial updates over time.

Yes, they standardized the publication (number of verses per page), spelling, and diacritical marks. 

Was any verses or even words added or removed? The answer is no.

[pinkpanther]

Yes, they standardized the publication (number of verses per page), spelling, and diacritical marks. 

Was any verses or even words added or removed? The answer is no.

No one knows for sure but according to you, if there are any errors in the Quran, it must be corrupted! What says you now?

[Lukongsimi]

We are the scholars.

No need scholars use brain can liao

[Lukongsimi]

The original Quran was recited and written with so many differences...so which one is the original recitation?

No one knows only follow what is written 
Words taught by man ?

[Ali Imran]

No one knows for sure but according to you, if there are any errors in the Quran, it must be corrupted! What says you now?

Our scholars know for sure.

And no, there are no errors.

[pinkpanther]

Yes, they standardized the publication (number of verses per page), spelling, and diacritical marks. 

Was any verses or even words added or removed? The answer is no.

Can you believe that the official copy of the Quran used today did not exist in its current form UNTIL 1924? Surprisingly, today’s Muslims believe that this copy is identical to Uthman’s Quran from the seventh century.

[Ali Imran]

Can you believe that the official copy of the Quran used today did not exist in its current form UNTIL 1924? Surprisingly, today’s Muslims believe that this copy is identical to Uthman’s Quran from the seventh century.

Why are you pretending to know better than our scholars?

[pinkpanther]

Our scholars know for sure.

And no, there are no errors.

Before the 1924 Quran, there were various readings of the Quran. By reading, I mean a text that included variants, or differences, from the supposed Uthmanic Quran. The differences included variations in letters, verbs, and nouns. Some differences were mor significant than others. Around the early twentieth century, during the last years of the Ottoman Empire, there were two widespread readings of the Quran: Hafs and Warsh. They contained MANY DISCREPANCIES. Copies of the two readings still exist today. The Warsh variant is commonly known in Morocco, while the Hafs variant is common in Egypt and Saudi Arabia (in addition to most countries, but not all). Hafs became well-known when the Ottoman Empire adopted it from among the many available variants of the Quran, claiming it as the authoritative text. This adoption made this particular reading the official variant of the empire. There was one problem: many Qurans imported during the last decade of the Ottoman Empire contained errors.

[Ali Imran]

Before the 1924 Quran, there were various readings of the Quran. By reading, I mean a text that included variants, or differences, from the supposed Uthmanic Quran. The differences included variations in letters, verbs, and nouns. Some differences were mor significant than others. Around the early twentieth century, during the last years of the Ottoman Empire, there were two widespread readings of the Quran: Hafs and Warsh. They contained MANY DISCREPANCIES. Copies of the two readings still exist today. The Warsh variant is commonly known in Morocco, while the Hafs variant is common in Egypt and Saudi Arabia (in addition to most countries, but not all). Hafs became well-known when the Ottoman Empire adopted it from among the many available variants of the Quran, claiming it as the authoritative text. This adoption made this particular reading the official variant of the empire. There was one problem: many Qurans imported during the last decade of the Ottoman Empire contained errors.

Please be honest. Show me where you copied that from.

[pinkpanther]

Why are you pretending to know better than our scholars?

The truth is you do not have the original manuscripts and your manuscripts copies contain plenty of errors too...if the Quran transmitted orally is written down differently...why are there so many errors

[pinkpanther]

Please be honest. Show me where you copied that from.

 I hit the nail isn't it

[Ali Imran]

The truth is you do not have the original manuscripts and your manuscripts copies contain plenty of errors too...if the Quran transmitted orally is written down differently...why are there so many errors

There is no such thing as the original manuscripts. I already told you that. 

Even the name, Quran, means recitation. The Quran is memorized and recited. That is the original.

Please stop pretending you know better than our scholars. Stop being dishonest.

[Ali Imran]

 I hit the nail isn't it

No, you are spreading lies. And likely, you got the lies from Christians who are so desperate to find fault with the Quran.

[pinkpanther]

Please be honest. Show me where you copied that from.

There are plenty of discrepancies between the hafs and Walsh versions of the Quran...don tell me you don know or pretend not to know

[pinkpanther]

No, you are spreading lies. And likely, you got the lies from Christians who are so desperate to find fault with the Quran.

What lies? The statement was about the discrepancies between the hafs and Walsh Quran..
Are you lying that there are no discrepancies? Who is protecting falsehoods