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(9 hours ago)cheekopekman Wrote: Jesus said that even if a prophet were to be raised from the dead you won't believe whatever he said also lah!
Will you believe Jesus if I show you God's Word? 
He has been shown numerous times from the Bible here that Jesus is God
He also don’t believe
Would he believe you ?
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(9 hours ago)Lukongsimi Wrote: He has been shown numerous times from the Bible here that Jesus is God
He also don’t believe
Would he believe you ?
That's why I asked him that question lah!
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(9 hours ago)cheekopekman Wrote: Jesus said that even if a prophet were to be raised from the dead you won't believe whatever he said also lah!
Will you believe Jesus if I show you God's Word? 
I believe Jesus pbuh, 100%. I don't believe he is God.
If you were there at the time of Jesus and someone said to you, "That man there is God", would you believe?
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(Yesterday, 12:19 PM)cheekopekman Wrote: Philip asked Jesus to show him who the Father was and Jesus rebuked him sternly lah!
So don't always say, "Show me" hor!
Pink is not claiming to be a messenger of God. So we all must always question what he claims, every time.
You can do the same to me.
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(10 hours ago)Ali Imran Wrote: I have heard of it being used as a metaphor for Archangel Michael, who stands at the right hand of God.
Do you believe "sitting at the right hand of God" is literal? That you will be able to see Jesus actually sitting at the right hand of God?
You and your nonsense
Hebrews 1:13 quotes God asking: "To which of the angels did God ever say, 'Sit at my right hand until I make your enemies a footstool for your feet'?". This rhetorical question emphasizes
that God has never granted such a position of honor, authority, and ultimate conquest to any angel.
That seat is only reserve for jesus
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(9 hours ago)pinkpanther Wrote: You and your nonsense
Hebrews 1:13 quotes God asking: "To which of the angels did God ever say, 'Sit at my right hand until I make your enemies a footstool for your feet'?". This rhetorical question emphasizes that God has never granted such a position of honor, authority, and ultimate conquest to any angel.
That seat is only reserve for jesus
According to the rabbinic tradition, Michael stands at the right hand of God.
Just because you have not heard of it, you call it nonsense. How shallow.
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(10 hours ago)Ali Imran Wrote: So we learn from Jesus that there are hypocrites in religion, doing acts of worship to impress others, but inside, they don't actually believe, having at best, a "highly likely" faith. There are such people in every religion. They go to mosque/church/temple to impress others as a show of piety.
But we cannot judge because we cannot see what is inside people's hearts. Only the almighty God can do that.
We can see that many like to wayang for people to take notice in places of worship

but that is human nature. You put 3 moslimahs in a mosque and it became a market
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(9 hours ago)Ali Imran Wrote: According to the rabbinic tradition, Michael stands at the right hand of God.
Just because you have not heard of it, you call it nonsense. How shallow.
I'm not a Jew and your description can't be found in my bible..I'm not told to believe in other books
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(9 hours ago)Ali Imran Wrote: I believe Jesus pbuh, 100%. I don't believe he is God.
If you were there at the time of Jesus and someone said to you, "That man there is God", would you believe?
A mortal man can do so many miracles n forgive sins?
Only God can
Your prophet did what miracles ?
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(9 hours ago)cheekopekman Wrote: That's why I asked him that question lah! 
He already chose his path
Let him be
Faith comes by hearing the truth
Not by arguments
The stiff neck at last will be destroyed
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(8 hours ago)Lukongsimi Wrote: A mortal man can do so many miracles n forgive sins?
Only God can
Your prophet did what miracles ?
The prophet allows children to be killed and his reply was " They are from them ( the polytheists)
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(8 hours ago)Lukongsimi Wrote: He already chose his path
Let him be
Faith comes by hearing the truth
Not by arguments
The stiff neck at last will be destroyed 
Just like that rich man who left in sorrows after Jesus told him to sell his possessions lah!
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(9 hours ago)pinkpanther Wrote: I'm not a Jew and your description can't be found in my bible..I'm not told to believe in other books 
So now you have heard that "at the right hand of God" is a metaphor in Jewish tradition.
Peter was a Jew. So when he said Jesus sitting at the right hand of God, was it literal or metaphorical?
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(5 hours ago)Ali Imran Wrote: So now you have heard that "at the right hand of God" is a metaphor in Jewish tradition.
Peter was a Jew. So when he said Jesus sitting at the right hand of God, was it literal or metaphorical?
Hebrews 1:1 already said that not even an angel can be seated next to God and that is literally what it says
Hebrews 1:13 quotes God asking: "To which of the angels did God ever say, 'Sit at my right hand until I make your enemies a footstool for your feet'?". This rhetorical question emphasizes that
God has never granted such a position of honor, authority, and ultimate conquest to any angel.
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(5 hours ago)cheekopekman Wrote: Just like that rich man who left in sorrows after Jesus told him to sell his possessions lah! 
Rich man obeyed all the commandments but Jesus told him if want to be perfect sell his properties n give to the poor to inherit 100 times more treasure in heaven
Rich man left in despair as he was very rich
The rich is like a camel gg thru the eye of a needle to enter heaven
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(4 hours ago)pinkpanther Wrote: Hebrews 1:1 already said that not even an angel can be seated next to God and that is literally what it says
Hebrews 1:13 quotes God asking: "To which of the angels did God ever say, 'Sit at my right hand until I make your enemies a footstool for your feet'?". This rhetorical question emphasizes that God has never granted such a position of honor, authority, and ultimate conquest to any angel.
Pentecost happened 50 days after the ascension. That was when Peter spoke to the congregation. Hebrews was written long after that, by a few decades, directly opposing the Jewish tradition of the metaphoric "at the right hand of God", which signifies a position of honor, a position that God can grant to others besides Jesus. Btw, the Quran (3:45) affirms Jesus's position of honor using the Jewish tradition, that he will be in a position of honor in the hereafter, and the metaphor for that position in the Jewish tradition is "sitting at the right hand of God".
But you seem to say it is not metaphorical but literal. So, if you see Jesus, who is God, and to his left is the Father, who is God, how many Gods do you see?
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