[pinkpanther]

Then in their hellven will be busy humping virgins n getting drunk with river of wine ?

I think this is the message from Satan ..

[Ali Imran]

Both passages are consistent in conveying jesus's message

The one in Mark says Jesus denies he is God.

The one in Matthew doesn't do that.

[Ali Imran]

I think this is the message from Satan ..

Will satan be in paradise?

[Lukongsimi]

Will satan be in paradise?

Paradise Lost, Satan is a fallen archangel consumed by pride and envy, leading a rebellion against God before being banished to Hell. He is portrayed as a charismatic but destructive figure who seeks to corrupt humanity to gain victory over God. Milton presents Satan with epic heroic qualities, raising questions about heroism and divine justice, while also depicting his descent from a glorious being into a manipulative serpent who ultimately corrupts mankind. 
Satan's Origins and Rebellion

• A Former Archangel:Satan was once a beautiful and powerful archangel, but his pride led him to challenge God's authority. 
  
• The Rebellion:Driven by a desire to rule, Satan incited a third of the angels to rebel against God, resulting in a war in Heaven. 
  
• Banished to Hell:After his defeat in a three-day battle, Satan and his followers were cast out of Heaven and fell into the abyss of Hell. 
  

Satan's Character in Paradise Lost

• A Complex Figure:Milton portrays Satan as a complex character with both compelling and terrifying qualities, making him a central and compelling figure in the epic. 
  
• Heroic Qualities:Despite being the antagonist, Satan possesses characteristics of a traditional epic hero, including immense size, rhetorical skill, and unwavering determination. 
  
• Motivation:Satan's primary motivation is pride and a thirst for power, believing God to be a tyrant. He desires to create his own dominion, even if it is in Hell. 
  

Satan's Goal and Impact

• Corrupting Humanity:Unable to defeat God directly, Satan seeks to achieve a victory by corrupting humanity and leading them to fall from grace. 
  

[pinkpanther]

Will satan be in paradise?

Satan can create a false paradise to hold your soul.

Satan offered Jesus all the power , glory of these kingdoms and all this wealth if He would worship him.

[pinkpanther]

The one in Mark says Jesus denies he is God.

The one in Matthew doesn't do that.

Both passages highlight that ultimate goodness belongs to God alone. Both can be interpreted as Jesus affirming the divine standard of goodness rather than denying his own divinity.

[Ali Imran]

Both passages highlight that ultimate goodness belongs to God alone. Both can be interpreted as Jesus affirming the divine standard of goodness rather than denying his own divinity.

In Mark, the answer given by Jesus started with a denial of himself as good.

[pinkpanther]

In Mark, the answer given by Jesus started with a denial of himself as good.

This is not a denial of his divinity.... but a challenge to the young man, prompting him to consider the true meaning of "good" and to recognize that only God possesses ultimate goodness. 

It is not a quality that can be earned through human works but is a divine attribute.

[Lukongsimi]

In Mark, the answer given by Jesus started with a denial of himself as good.

Good person will always deny he is good shows he is humble 
Proud person will expects people to call him good like u condemns others as unpleasant shows u r prideful

[Ali Imran]

This is not a denial of his divinity.... but a challenge to the young man, prompting him to consider the true meaning of "good" and to recognize that only God possesses ultimate goodness. 

It is not a quality that can be earned through human works but is a divine attribute.

It is rather moot to discuss this because, at the end of the day, we do not know which book is giving us the actual answer from Jesus.

[pinkpanther]

It is rather moot to discuss this because, at the end of the day, we do not know which book is giving us the actual answer from Jesus.

Yes, there's no use in debating this. What we can rely on is the general consensus among scholars, which affirms the high reliability of the Bible.

High reliability of the Bible means that its contents, both historically and theologically, are presented as factual, dependable, and accurately transmitted from its origins to the present day.

[Lukongsimi]

It is rather moot to discuss this because, at the end of the day, we do not know which book is giving us the actual answer from Jesus.

Actual answers not found in the Koran that is why u are keen in the Bible

[Lukongsimi]

Yes, there's no use in debating this. What we can rely on is the general consensus among scholars, which affirms the high reliability of the Bible.

High reliability of the Bible means that its contents, both historically and theologically, are presented as factual, dependable, and accurately transmitted from its origins to the present day.

Eg his children if grows up don’t look like him he will starts questioning his wife 
Lol

[Ali Imran]

Yes, there's no use in debating this. What we can rely on is the general consensus among scholars, which affirms the high reliability of the Bible.

High reliability of the Bible means that its contents, both historically and theologically, are presented as factual, dependable, and accurately transmitted from its origins to the present day.

No matter how highly reliable, we still won't know which book is giving us the actual answer from Jesus.

[Lukongsimi]

No matter how highly reliable, we still won't know which book is giving us the actual answer from Jesus.

U want to find answers that match your questionable Koran it’s impossible !

[pinkpanther]

No matter how highly reliable, we still won't know which book is giving us the actual answer from Jesus.

Yes..I can also say that no matter how reliable is the Quran, I still don know if it is the truth because I have never met and spoken with Muhammad

[pinkpanther]

U want to find answers that match your questionable Koran it’s impossible !

Quran has no answers! What is the name of Adam's wife? The Quran has no answer! How about the names of their sons? The Quran has no answer!

[Lukongsimi]

Quran has no answers! What is the name of Adam's wife? The Quran has no answer! How about the names of their sons? The Quran has no answer!

That is why pachik so desperate to find the answers which is in the Bible 
Bef he realizes it’s too late lol

[Ali Imran]

Yes..I can also say that no matter how reliable is the Quran, I still don know if it is the truth because I have never met and spoken with Muhammad

As for us, the Quran is, without doubt, the word of God.

[pinkpanther]

As for us, the Quran is, without doubt, the word of God.

As for us, the bible  is, without doubt, the word of God.

[Ali Imran]

As for us, the bible  is, without doubt, the word of God.

With this in mind, since I myself have carefully investigated everything from the beginning, I too decided to write an orderly account for you, most excellent Theophilus, so that you may know the certainty of the things you have been taught. - Luke 1:3

Is that God speaking?

[pinkpanther]

With this in mind, since I myself have carefully investigated everything from the beginning, I too decided to write an orderly account for you, most excellent Theophilus, so that you may know the certainty of the things you have been taught. - Luke 1:3

Is that God speaking?

Yes ..Luke is no doubt inspired by God to carry out the truth

[cheekopekman]

With this in mind, since I myself have carefully investigated everything from the beginning, I too decided to write an orderly account for you, most excellent Theophilus, so that you may know the certainty of the things you have been taught. - Luke 1:3

Is that God speaking?

Luke was writing to a person called Theophilus lah!  The word "excellent" already tells you that Theophilus was some highly positioned officials lah!

[cheekopekman]

Yes ..Luke is no doubt inspired by God to carry out the truth

Luke was a Gentile not a Jew lah!

[Lukongsimi]

Quran
About 600 years after the Bible was completed, the content of the Quran came to exist gradually over a twenty-three year period in the mind and memory of the Islamic Prophet Muhammad and was partially recorded in written form before his death. The Quran was completely converted from memory into written form after Muhammad's death by his successor Abu Bakr.Different versions of the Quran were burned  by Uthman (Sahih Bukhari 6.61.510). Umar was a witness to the authenticity of the Quran,  so that four men determined the content of the Quran, all four being close relatives of each other, all four being rulers of the Islamic Empire and all four benefitting from provisions in the Quran granting up to one-fifth of the plunder taken from conquered peoples to themselves... granting one-fifth of the plunder to "Allah, the Messenger" (Muhammad), "his close relatives, orphans, the poor and needy travelers" (Surah 8:41, 36-41, 69).

[Lukongsimi]

Quran
In the Quran, Heaven is a garden in the afterlife where men have sexual pleasure with women who have swelling breasts "full-bosomed maidens of equal age" (Surah 78:33, 78:21-40, 9:72). In regard to life now on the earth, men are allowed to have four wives at a time (Surah 4:3). Men rule over women but women don’t rule over men. Allah did not call any women to be prophets. Husbands are instructed to hit their wives if they do not stop ill-conduct (Surah 4:34).

[Ali Imran]

Yes ..Luke is no doubt inspired by God to carry out the truth

So God must carefully investigate everything. Is that what you believe?

[pinkpanther]

So God must carefully investigate everything. Is that what you believe?

God inspired Luke in his investigative work.
The NT includes numerous accounts from various witnesses... it is not the work of a single individual. Relying solely on one person's statement lacks accountability.

[Ali Imran]

God inspired Luke in his investigative work.
The NT includes numerous accounts from various witnesses... it is not the work of a single individual. Relying solely on one person's statement lacks accountability.

So let's go back to my original question.

With this in mind, since I myself have carefully investigated everything from the beginning, I too decided to write an orderly account for you, most excellent Theophilus, so that you may know the certainty of the things you have been taught. - Luke 1:3

Who is that "I"?

[Lukongsimi]

So let's go back to my original question.

With this in mind, since I myself have carefully investigated everything from the beginning, I too decided to write an orderly account for you, most excellent Theophilus, so that you may know the certainty of the things you have been taught. - Luke 1:3

Who is that "I"?

What Bible are u reading ?

“it seemed good to me also, having followed all things closely for some time past, to write an orderly account for you, most excellent Theophilus,”
‭‭Luke‬ ‭1‬:‭3‬ ‭ESV‬‬

“it seemed good to me also, having had perfect understanding of all things from the very first, to write to you an orderly account, most excellent Theophilus,”
‭‭Luke‬ ‭1‬:‭3‬ ‭NKJV‬‬

Where is the I ?