[Bigiron]

Someone say : Crowd Size at Worker party rally no correlation to Votes, Silent Majority, New Citizens

Here’s a structured breakdown of the flaws in the original argument, supported by evidence and sources where applicable:  

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### **Flaws in the Argument: "Crowd Size at Worker Party Rally No Correlation to Votes, Silent Majority, New Citizens"**  

#### **1. Assumes Crowd Size Has No Predictive Value Without Evidence**  
- **Flaw:** The claim dismisses rally size as irrelevant without statistical proof.  
- **Evidence:**  
  - Studies show that rally attendance can signal enthusiasm, which correlates with voter turnout (e.g., **Madestam et al., 2013** found Tea Party rallies increased Republican votes).  
  - In Singapore’s 2020 GE, the WP’s large virtual rallies were linked to their vote share increase (***Straits Times*, 2020**).  
- **Sauce:**  
  - Madestam, A., Shoag, D., Veuger, S., & Yanagizawa-Drott, D. (2013). *Do Political Protests Matter? Evidence from the Tea Party Movement.*  
  - [*Straits Times*: "GE2020: Workers' Party virtual rally draws 177,000 viewers"](https://www.straitstimes.com/politics/ge...00-viewers)  

#### **2. "Silent Majority" is a Vague, Unproven Concept**  
- **Flaw:** Invokes an undefined group without polling or electoral data.  
- **Evidence:**  
  - Polling discrepancies (e.g., Brexit, Trump 2016) are better explained by *shy voters* (those reluctant to admit preferences) than a monolithic "silent majority" (**Shy Voter Theory, 1990s**).  
  - In Singapore, past elections show that swing voters—not a fixed "silent majority"—decide close races (***Today Online*, 2020**).  
- **Sauce:**  
  - [*Today Online*: "GE2020: The silent majority has spoken, but who are they?"](https://www.todayonline.com/singapore/ge...o-are-they)  

#### **3. Overgeneralizes New Citizens’ Voting Behavior**  
- **Flaw:** Assumes new citizens vote as a bloc against the WP without data.  
- **Evidence:**  
  - New citizens’ votes are diverse. In Australia, naturalized citizens split across parties (**McAllister, 2011**).  
  - Singapore’s new citizens come from varied backgrounds (China, India, Malaysia), with no evidence of unified voting.  
- **Sauce:**  
  - McAllister, I. (2011). *The Australian Voter: 50 Years of Change.*  

#### **4. Ignores Geographic and Demographic Bias in Rallies**  
- **Flaw:** Large rallies may reflect stronghold support, not national trends.  
- **Evidence:**  
  - WP’s 2011 rally in Hougang (their stronghold) drew huge crowds but didn’t predict nationwide gains (**SingStat, 2011**).  
  - Conversely, small rallies in swing seats (e.g., East Coast GRC 2020) mattered more.  
- **Sauce:**  
  - [Singapore Department of Statistics (SingStat): Election Data](https://www.singstat.gov.sg/)  

#### **5. Cherry-Picking Anecdotes Over Data**  
- **Flaw:** Uses isolated examples (e.g., "WP rally big but lost") without longitudinal analysis.  
- **Evidence:**  
  - **2015 GE:** PAP’s smaller rallies matched their vote dip (***Channel NewsAsia*, 2015**).  
  - **2020 GE:** WP’s record rally crowds aligned with their vote share increase.  
- **Sauce:**  
  - [*CNA*: "GE2015: PAP's share of votes drops to 60.1%"](https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapor...01-2112466)  

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### **𝐊𝐞𝐲 𝐓𝐚𝐤𝐞𝐚𝐰𝐚𝐲𝐬:**  
𝟏. **𝐂𝐫𝐨𝐰𝐝 𝐬𝐢𝐳𝐞 𝐢𝐬𝐧’𝐭 𝐞𝐯𝐞𝐫𝐲𝐭𝐡𝐢𝐧𝐠, 𝐛𝐮𝐭 𝐢𝐭’𝐬 𝐧𝐨𝐭 𝐦𝐞𝐚𝐧𝐢𝐧𝐠𝐥𝐞𝐬𝐬**—𝐢𝐭 𝐜𝐚𝐧 𝐫𝐞𝐟𝐥𝐞𝐜𝐭 𝐠𝐫𝐨𝐮𝐧𝐝 𝐬𝐞𝐧𝐭𝐢𝐦𝐞𝐧𝐭.  
𝟐. **"𝐒𝐢𝐥𝐞𝐧𝐭 𝐦𝐚𝐣𝐨𝐫𝐢𝐭𝐲" 𝐧𝐞𝐞𝐝𝐬 𝐩𝐨𝐥𝐥𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐩𝐫𝐨𝐨𝐟**—𝐨𝐭𝐡𝐞𝐫𝐰𝐢𝐬𝐞, 𝐢𝐭’𝐬 𝐚 𝐫𝐡𝐞𝐭𝐨𝐫𝐢𝐜𝐚𝐥 𝐝𝐞𝐯𝐢𝐜𝐞.  
𝟑. **𝐍𝐞𝐰 𝐜𝐢𝐭𝐢𝐳𝐞𝐧𝐬 𝐚𝐫𝐞𝐧’𝐭 𝐚 𝐦𝐨𝐧𝐨𝐥𝐢𝐭𝐡**—𝐭𝐡𝐞𝐢𝐫 𝐯𝐨𝐭𝐞𝐬 𝐝𝐞𝐩𝐞𝐧𝐝 𝐨𝐧 𝐩𝐨𝐥𝐢𝐜𝐲, 𝐧𝐨𝐭 𝐣𝐮𝐬𝐭 𝐨𝐫𝐢𝐠𝐢𝐧.  
𝟒. **𝐑𝐚𝐥𝐥𝐲 𝐥𝐨𝐜𝐚𝐭𝐢𝐨𝐧 𝐦𝐚𝐭𝐭𝐞𝐫𝐬**—𝐬𝐭𝐫𝐨𝐧𝐠𝐡𝐨𝐥𝐝 𝐯𝐬. 𝐬𝐰𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐚𝐫𝐞
𝐚𝐬 𝐭𝐞𝐥𝐥 𝐝𝐢𝐟𝐟𝐞𝐫𝐞𝐧𝐭 𝐬𝐭𝐨𝐫𝐢𝐞𝐬.

[Bluebull]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YlmG-LvraVM

[Tangsen]

Yes confirmed, last time I suppork oppie .... go SDP rally go WP rally .... waaaa super crowded super atmosphere .... think this time for sure PAP lose simply majority .... but every time .... nothing

Why oppie rally so many people

PAP supporker wanna join in the excitement but still vote for PAP

Other ward oppie supporker go SDP, PSP and WP rallies ... but go back to their ward either walk over or shite oppie partee like PPP, Lim Tean and other nonsense partee .... in the end spoilt vote or vote for PAP 

Neutral supporker so join in the fun but when vote, play safe vote for PAP to ensure their estate are proper taken care of, they can see wanker partee wards poorly maintain and minimum upgrading

[Migrant]

Interesting.
When the pretty candidate appeared,
The crowd kept chanting 'chio Bu' chio bu....

[red3]

No correlation?

Incumbent also open floodgates to double parliament size. Size matters inside the parliament seating to vote and as a security in case the opposite number increase

[Ineedhelp]

Crowd size indeed doesn't translate to votes. Because everyone goes to WP rally to vent anger, warm each other up and then after cooling down day they go back to voting for PAP and turn back into daft sheep to get back in line at the slaughter house for lions to consume. Lol

[cheekopekman]

Someone say : Crowd Size at Worker party rally no correlation to Votes, Silent Majority, New Citizens

Here’s a structured breakdown of the flaws in the original argument, supported by evidence and sources where applicable:  

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### **Flaws in the Argument: "Crowd Size at Worker Party Rally No Correlation to Votes, Silent Majority, New Citizens"**  

#### **1. Assumes Crowd Size Has No Predictive Value Without Evidence**  
- **Flaw:** The claim dismisses rally size as irrelevant without statistical proof.  
- **Evidence:**  
  - Studies show that rally attendance can signal enthusiasm, which correlates with voter turnout (e.g., **Madestam et al., 2013** found Tea Party rallies increased Republican votes).  
  - In Singapore’s 2020 GE, the WP’s large virtual rallies were linked to their vote share increase (***Straits Times*, 2020**).  
- **Sauce:**  
  - Madestam, A., Shoag, D., Veuger, S., & Yanagizawa-Drott, D. (2013). *Do Political Protests Matter? Evidence from the Tea Party Movement.*  
  - [*Straits Times*: "GE2020: Workers' Party virtual rally draws 177,000 viewers"](https://www.straitstimes.com/politics/ge...00-viewers)  

#### **2. "Silent Majority" is a Vague, Unproven Concept**  
- **Flaw:** Invokes an undefined group without polling or electoral data.  
- **Evidence:**  
  - Polling discrepancies (e.g., Brexit, Trump 2016) are better explained by *shy voters* (those reluctant to admit preferences) than a monolithic "silent majority" (**Shy Voter Theory, 1990s**).  
  - In Singapore, past elections show that swing voters—not a fixed "silent majority"—decide close races (***Today Online*, 2020**).  
- **Sauce:**  
  - [*Today Online*: "GE2020: The silent majority has spoken, but who are they?"](https://www.todayonline.com/singapore/ge...o-are-they)  

#### **3. Overgeneralizes New Citizens’ Voting Behavior**  
- **Flaw:** Assumes new citizens vote as a bloc against the WP without data.  
- **Evidence:**  
  - New citizens’ votes are diverse. In Australia, naturalized citizens split across parties (**McAllister, 2011**).  
  - Singapore’s new citizens come from varied backgrounds (China, India, Malaysia), with no evidence of unified voting.  
- **Sauce:**  
  - McAllister, I. (2011). *The Australian Voter: 50 Years of Change.*  

#### **4. Ignores Geographic and Demographic Bias in Rallies**  
- **Flaw:** Large rallies may reflect stronghold support, not national trends.  
- **Evidence:**  
  - WP’s 2011 rally in Hougang (their stronghold) drew huge crowds but didn’t predict nationwide gains (**SingStat, 2011**).  
  - Conversely, small rallies in swing seats (e.g., East Coast GRC 2020) mattered more.  
- **Sauce:**  
  - [Singapore Department of Statistics (SingStat): Election Data](https://www.singstat.gov.sg/)  

#### **5. Cherry-Picking Anecdotes Over Data**  
- **Flaw:** Uses isolated examples (e.g., "WP rally big but lost") without longitudinal analysis.  
- **Evidence:**  
  - **2015 GE:** PAP’s smaller rallies matched their vote dip (***Channel NewsAsia*, 2015**).  
  - **2020 GE:** WP’s record rally crowds aligned with their vote share increase.  
- **Sauce:**  
  - [*CNA*: "GE2015: PAP's share of votes drops to 60.1%"](https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapor...01-2112466)  

---

### **𝐊𝐞𝐲 𝐓𝐚𝐤𝐞𝐚𝐰𝐚𝐲𝐬:**  
𝟏. **𝐂𝐫𝐨𝐰𝐝 𝐬𝐢𝐳𝐞 𝐢𝐬𝐧’𝐭 𝐞𝐯𝐞𝐫𝐲𝐭𝐡𝐢𝐧𝐠, 𝐛𝐮𝐭 𝐢𝐭’𝐬 𝐧𝐨𝐭 𝐦𝐞𝐚𝐧𝐢𝐧𝐠𝐥𝐞𝐬𝐬**—𝐢𝐭 𝐜𝐚𝐧 𝐫𝐞𝐟𝐥𝐞𝐜𝐭 𝐠𝐫𝐨𝐮𝐧𝐝 𝐬𝐞𝐧𝐭𝐢𝐦𝐞𝐧𝐭.  
𝟐. **"𝐒𝐢𝐥𝐞𝐧𝐭 𝐦𝐚𝐣𝐨𝐫𝐢𝐭𝐲" 𝐧𝐞𝐞𝐝𝐬 𝐩𝐨𝐥𝐥𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐩𝐫𝐨𝐨𝐟**—𝐨𝐭𝐡𝐞𝐫𝐰𝐢𝐬𝐞, 𝐢𝐭’𝐬 𝐚 𝐫𝐡𝐞𝐭𝐨𝐫𝐢𝐜𝐚𝐥 𝐝𝐞𝐯𝐢𝐜𝐞.  
𝟑. **𝐍𝐞𝐰 𝐜𝐢𝐭𝐢𝐳𝐞𝐧𝐬 𝐚𝐫𝐞𝐧’𝐭 𝐚 𝐦𝐨𝐧𝐨𝐥𝐢𝐭𝐡**—𝐭𝐡𝐞𝐢𝐫 𝐯𝐨𝐭𝐞𝐬 𝐝𝐞𝐩𝐞𝐧𝐝 𝐨𝐧 𝐩𝐨𝐥𝐢𝐜𝐲, 𝐧𝐨𝐭 𝐣𝐮𝐬𝐭 𝐨𝐫𝐢𝐠𝐢𝐧.  
𝟒. **𝐑𝐚𝐥𝐥𝐲 𝐥𝐨𝐜𝐚𝐭𝐢𝐨𝐧 𝐦𝐚𝐭𝐭𝐞𝐫𝐬**—𝐬𝐭𝐫𝐨𝐧𝐠𝐡𝐨𝐥𝐝 𝐯𝐬. 𝐬𝐰𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐚𝐫𝐞
𝐚𝐬 𝐭𝐞𝐥𝐥 𝐝𝐢𝐟𝐟𝐞𝐫𝐞𝐧𝐭 𝐬𝐭𝐨𝐫𝐢𝐞𝐬.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YlmG-LvraVM

Many people went there to watch show only lah!  Same for PAP lah!