Tharman's landslide shows GRC can be abolished.
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Singaporeans do not vote along racial lines at all. A minority candidate so long as has capability  can win the votes.

Even the changes to PE to put minority in office y restricting majority race candidates should be abolished.

The GRC system is build on false assumptions that the electorate votes along racial lines.  We should not have a structure that is build on wrong assumptions and pass it on yr after yr...it becomes q burden for our society. ..it is an implicit statement that our populace is naturally racist....a false costruct

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#2

Then why someone say Singapore is not ready for an Indian Prime Minister? Big Grin

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(02-09-2023, 07:57 AM)p1acebo Wrote:  Then why someone say Singapore is not ready for an Indian Prime Minister? Big Grin

Thus is the pap's own doing....don't blame us

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#4

This result is extremely significant.

It’s the entire country giving him that clear mandate, clear power. He should be king. Not the prime minister.
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#5

reali arr... now go to sleep
maybe u use your feelers better to see.
for ex. see the news You being put to sleep
Halimah is the president of the people on Day1
Sotong goal dat's all.
wat? u want the emergency spare tire to roll in arr!
nothing to see.
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(02-09-2023, 07:49 AM)sgbuffett Wrote:  Singaporeans do not vote along racial lines at all. A minority candidate so long as has capability  can win the votes.



But ce.ca will only vote for ce.ca. And brownies will only vote for brownies. Is it not along ra.cial lines?
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(02-09-2023, 07:49 AM)sgbuffett Wrote:  Singaporeans do not vote along racial lines at all. A minority candidate so long as has capability  can win the votes.

Even the changes to PE to put minority in office y restricting majority race candidates should be abolished.

The GRC system is build on false assumptions that the electorate votes along racial lines.  We should not have a structure that is build on wrong assumptions and pass it on yr after yr...it becomes q burden for our society. ..it is an implicit statement that our populace is naturally racist....a false costruct

PE and GE different la.. Big Grin
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#8

Sg oppositions is too fragmented. With more than 10 oppo parties, it's utterly useless and waste of time. Must consolidate to 3 or 4 parties for more credibility else GE25 will see all oppo wards wipe out and small parties will lose deposits contesting.
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(02-09-2023, 07:49 AM)sgbuffett Wrote:  Singaporeans do not vote along racial lines at all. A minority candidate so long as has capability  can win the votes.

Even the changes to PE to put minority in office y restricting majority race candidates should be abolished.

The GRC system is build on false assumptions that the electorate votes along racial lines.  We should not have a structure that is build on wrong assumptions and pass it on yr after yr...it becomes q burden for our society. ..it is an implicit statement that our populace is naturally racist....a false costruct

PAP says GRC is for racial lines. you believe ?
SMC is bad for PAP, PAP came up with GRC.

GRC game is for big party like PAP.
PAP should be thinking hard on how to enhance the GRC game to gain advantage.
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(02-09-2023, 10:06 AM)Instinct Wrote:  Sg oppositions is too fragmented. With more than 10 oppo parties, it's utterly useless and waste of time. Must consolidate to 3 or 4 parties for more credibility else GE25 will see all oppo wards wipe out and small parties will lose deposits contesting.

Ideally, they should become a coalition Opposition party. Similarly to our neighbouring countries. 
PAP Vs Opposition coalition party. With Pritam as the Leader of Opposition. The next PM... Big Grin
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(02-09-2023, 10:06 AM)Instinct Wrote:  Sg oppositions is too fragmented. With more than 10 oppo parties, it's utterly useless and waste of time. Must consolidate to 3 or 4 parties for more credibility else GE25 will see all oppo wards wipe out and small parties will lose deposits contesting.

There are many opposition parties...it is natural even jn US each presidential election is not 2 candidates but 20 candidates only the top 2 matters ..sometimes a strong 3rd candidate comes and split the vote.

Today only PAP, WP ans PSP have real impact on elections snd can win MP pr NCMP seats. 

It is good to have the rest to provide the full spectrum of diverse  ideas ...as the society transforms .some of these parties lkek SDP will become more relevant.

Sjngapore 20yrs from now will be a totally different place with different values ....today social change is sped up by technological changes. Teh main parties today might become dinosaurs tomorrow.

I see no need for parties to artificially consolidate and come under one banner. If they have their own values and beliefs they should stick with it. On and off some smaller parties may come together during elections to combine resources for the campaign so far it has not really worked well....in terms of results.

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(02-09-2023, 10:12 AM)forum456 Wrote:  PAP says GRC is for racial lines. you believe ?
SMC is bad for PAP, PAP came up with GRC.

GRC game is for big party like PAP.
PAP should be thinking hard on how to enhance the GRC game to gain advantage.

Maybe or maybe not as someone just post
https://sgtalk.net/Thread-There-are-Thar...ember-them

minority may want representations in high post similar they want in GRC.

Also you want to abolish it, better have gather enough representation first.
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#13

I believed the big chunks of supporters are civil servants.
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(02-09-2023, 11:03 AM)Gemstar Wrote:  I believed the big chunks of supporters are civil servants.

Civil servants and SAF number 200k only. Tharman vote was 1.7M

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(02-09-2023, 11:05 AM)sgbuffett Wrote:  Civil servants and SAF number 200k only. Tharman vote was 1.7M

It is the majority Singaporean choice la.
No doubt about it.
Never never underestimate Singaporean sharpness in detecting gimmicks. 

LTK won our hearts not through gimmicks or threatening our livelihoods. He never disrespect Singaporean voting rights. 
He shown respect to the voters. Whether from Opposition or Incumbent party.

Unlike some recent Opposition leaders or supporters. Venting anger, labeling Singaporean negatively when lose in election. Stupidly. 

To cast a vote in the booth is as easy as ABC. Who is scare of your anger and noise?

Learn from LTK la.
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#16

Tharman landslide win also no surprise. Most if not all of civil servants, PAP, Taman Jurong, businessmen & the riches plus their families will cast their votes to him.
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(02-09-2023, 10:06 AM)Instinct Wrote:  Sg oppositions is too fragmented. With more than 10 oppo parties, it's utterly useless and waste of time. Must consolidate to 3 or 4 parties for more credibility else GE25 will see all oppo wards wipe out and small parties will lose deposits contesting.

Only WP and PSP need to remain. The rest of the oppo parties can disband.
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(02-09-2023, 07:49 AM)sgbuffett Wrote:  Singaporeans do not vote along racial lines at all. A minority candidate so long as has capability  can win the votes.

Even the changes to PE to put minority in office y restricting majority race candidates should be abolished.

The GRC system is build on false assumptions that the electorate votes along racial lines.  We should not have a structure that is build on wrong assumptions and pass it on yr after yr...it becomes q burden for our society. ..it is an implicit statement that our populace is naturally racist....a false costruct



bro..................you really believe in the official GRC fairytale ah...................?


just finding minority candidates for Opposition parties will be difficult...................that's why PAP use GRC + more difficult to win for Oppo than 1 vs 1.............
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(02-09-2023, 10:16 AM)moonrab Wrote:  Ideally, they should become a coalition Opposition party. Similarly to our neighbouring countries. 
PAP Vs Opposition coalition party. With Pritam as the Leader of Opposition. The next PM... Big Grin

I stick by WP should be left alone at least for now.
A big boat of coalition with a bunch of different personalities is gonna pull down WP.. 
So, at best, SDP and PSP can merge since they all along quite equal and at the same level.. the rest of the opp can either merge or die..
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(03-09-2023, 10:37 AM)Raphael05 Wrote:  I stick by WP should be left alone at least for now.
A big boat of coalition with a bunch of different personalities is gonna pull down WP.. 
So, at best, SDP and PSP can merge since they all along quite equal and at the same level.. the rest of the opp can either merge or die..

WP is weakening. Unless they find someone like LTK, connected to many commoners. And cut down championing for minority policies. 
Imo.
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(03-09-2023, 10:44 AM)moonrab Wrote:  WP is weakening. Unless they find someone like LTK, connected to many commoners. And cut down championing for minority policies. 
Imo.

The people had voted them 10 seats and they ownself checkmate ownself and now left with 7 seats. Hope they can pull up their socks and don’t disappoint the people who wanted a more balanced powers in parliament and gave them the chance.
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(03-09-2023, 10:49 AM)Raphael05 Wrote:  The people had voted them 10 seats and they ownself checkmate ownself and now left with 8 seats. Hope they can pull up their socks and don’t disappoint the people who wanted a more balanced powers in parliament and gave them the chance.
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(03-09-2023, 10:44 AM)moonrab Wrote:  WP is weakening. Unless they find someone like LTK, connected to many commoners. And cut down championing for minority policies. 
Imo.

someone say ah sin is very good.  Why he let wp weakening.
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#24

Abolish grc one to one fight.

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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#25

(02-09-2023, 11:03 AM)Gemstar Wrote:  I believed the big chunks of supporters are civil servants.

Obviously , But you don't forget also PA , RC , NTUC members down to Business Clans the Head surely vote for the Ruling party ALWAYS.....

Than come those crap media cock so call artists , most in fact near 100 percent always vote for PAP.

You see Tharman walkabout got one is a Close door session whereby he meet those so call well known local influencers beside other media cock artists, staffs.
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#26

Anything to their advantage they will retain even though all the original reasons for implementing it are gone.
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(02-09-2023, 07:49 AM)sgbuffett Wrote:  Singaporeans do not vote along racial lines at all. A minority candidate so long as has capability  can win the votes.

Even the changes to PE to put minority in office y restricting majority race candidates should be abolished.

The GRC system is build on false assumptions that the electorate votes along racial lines.  We should not have a structure that is build on wrong assumptions and pass it on yr after yr...it becomes q burden for our society. ..it is an implicit statement that our populace is naturally racist....a false costruct

Your TKL got less than 14% of the votes.  Rotfl

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(02-09-2023, 11:03 AM)Gemstar Wrote:  I believed the big chunks of supporters are civil servants.

Voting is secret. Even LTK said so, and said there's no need to be afraid of voting for the oppies.

You are hinting that civil servants are scared to vote for TKL. You are suggesting that the votes are not secret. ISD should call you up because you made a very serious allegation here.

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#29

(03-09-2023, 10:55 AM)Bigbluedot Wrote:  someone say ah sin is very good.  Why he let wp weakening.

Say is no use.
Voters can see the actions and gimmicks. Just like what 70% saw in TKL.

Our Opposition leaders must never understand estimate Singaporean sharp observation in our country. Taking them for granted will be most regrettable. 

Like KJ scolding Singaporean voters for his failure. Shame 🫠
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(03-09-2023, 10:49 AM)Raphael05 Wrote:  The people had voted them 10 seats and they ownself checkmate ownself and now left with 7 seats. Hope they can pull up their socks and don’t disappoint the people who wanted a more balanced powers in parliament and gave them the chance.

LTK would never made such serious mistakes or advocated so strongly on issues about ethnic group. Because he understands racial issues in Singapore will always be around. That's the reason our forefathers worked so hard to set such policies. Not for fun.

Imo, 2025 GE won't be a smooth journey for WP.
Better work with other parties in coming election.
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