Here’s what happened:
https://cna.asia/3XDGiyC
(30-06-2024, 09:38 AM)sgbuffett Wrote: Did people read the article before commenting this is the reason POFMA
Read the above carefully.
Fact is :
"The women were charged for.organising a procession yo Istana".
This statement from.SDP is actually true:
"They were charged for organising support for...."
The procession is to support the Palestinian people ..they were charged for "organising"....all this is true.
I take it they are not happy with the second part "for Palestianian People".
It's like this statement :
"John is charged for stealing an apple to give to his hungry mother".
It says is charged for stealing an apple.
It does not say he is charged for giving the apple to his mom.
Similarly the SDP statement is factual ..."The women were charged for organising..." the statement does not say they were charged for "supporting Palestinian people".
POFMA is a stupid law.
Often abused.
Used to make the opposition look bad.
Sad to say the PAP is destroying the people's right to speak up through its wrong dull interpretation of what people writ.
(30-06-2024, 09:43 AM)Oyk Wrote: You are the one who comment without reading and if you did read then you need to read it again, and if you still don't understand, then read it again. And again.
(30-06-2024, 09:47 AM)sgbuffett Wrote: Let me ask you a simple question..:Why (for what crime).were the women charged?"
Answer this question so we have something to discuss...instead of you throwing all sorts of claims that I don't understand.
(30-06-2024, 12:29 AM)Bigiron Wrote: The Singapore Democratic Party has been ordered to put up a correction notice on its social media posts, after it published false statements about the case of three women charged with organising a procession to the Istana without a permit.
Here’s what happened:
https://cna.asia/3XDGiyC
Quote:charged for organising support for the Palestinian people,”
(30-06-2024, 10:04 AM)p1acebo Wrote: Sgbuffet I suggest you stick to making ludicrous and wrong predictions for the stock markets compared to drumming up support for terrorists
I know you say Palestine but actually it is an euphemism for Hamas.
Many terrorist sympathizers hide behind their fake support for Palestine
(30-06-2024, 09:54 AM)Oyk Wrote: And you got it wrong completely.
This I suppose is why your A level results weren't good enough to get you a place...in NUS or NTU
You might have studies Econs, know a thing or two about Supply and Demand, but have you ever wondered why you scored an E? You got 51% Whatever happened to the other 49%?
I tell you. You got your answers wrong in too many places lorh..you didn't understand what you were reading.
Go and read the fooking article again AND AGAIN!
(30-06-2024, 10:29 AM)sgbuffett Wrote: The women have not even marched yet.
(30-06-2024, 10:29 AM)sgbuffett Wrote: The women have not even marched yet.
They were charged for organising the March.
The March is tk supoort the Palestinian cause/people.
Hence the statement that;..
They were charged for organising support for palestian people is truthful.
Similarly statement like:.
John was charged for stealing money for his family.
The above statement does not say he is charge for money to support his family.
He is charged for stealing.
Just as the women were charged for organising.
Every part and the whole sentence from the SDP is true.
(30-06-2024, 10:45 AM)Huliwang Wrote: The march was already illegally carried out on 2 Feb 2024 with about 70 protestors shouting and chanting along Orchard Road heading towards the Istana. These three radicalised women were the organiser.They have not reached teh Istana yet.
(30-06-2024, 09:38 AM)sgbuffett Wrote: POFMA us a stupid.law implemented by the PAP to distort the truth.
Did people read the article before commenting this is the reason POFMA
Read the above carefully.
Fact is :
"The women were charged for.organising a procession yo Istana".
This statement from.SDP is actually true:
"They were charged for organising support for...."
The procession is to support the Palestinian people ..they were charged for "organising"....all this is true.
I take it they are not happy with the second part "for Palestianian People".
It's like this statement :
"John is charged for stealing an apple to give to his hungry mother".
It says is charged for stealing an apple.
It does not say he is charged for giving the apple to his mom.
Similarly the SDP statement is factual ..."The women were charged for organising..." the statement does not say they were charged for "supporting Palestinian people".
POFMA is a stupid law.
Often abused.
Used to make the opposition look bad.
Sad to say the PAP is destroying the people's right to speak up through its wrongful interpretation of what people write.
(30-06-2024, 10:25 AM)sgbuffett Wrote: Issue is not about the whether the Palestinian cause is righteous or wrong.
It is about the POFMA.
(30-06-2024, 10:55 AM)sgbuffett Wrote: They have not reached teh Istana yet.Whether they reach or not reach Istana is immaterial. The illegal procession already started. In a way the procession was stopped before reaching Istana and they were lucky. The offence would be worst for entering a prohibited area as the women had requested in their permit application letter.
Do you agree or disagree with the statement
"The women were charged for organising"?
(30-06-2024, 11:12 AM)moonrab Wrote: No it is not poFma alone.Yalor, SDP is trying to make this into a geopolitical issue to cause bad blood between Singapore and some Islamic and other countries. This is very reckless and dangerous from making a local procession
This 3 women action is dangerous.
And SDP playing it up to incite "Hatred between Palestinian supporters against Singapore govt." with misleading headlines.
That concern everyone safety living in Singapore.
Singapore Support helping Palestine's hardships in the Gaza War. We also go for 2 states solution. Voted against violence in Gaza at UN and seek for peaceful settlement.
SDP intentionally advertising Singapore govt "Charge Palestine Supporters", which in not true at all.
They are charged under Illegal organising public march into sensitive zone and public demonstration.
Not for Supporting Palestine.
(30-06-2024, 11:12 AM)moonrab Wrote: No it is not poFma alone.
This 3 women action is dangerous.
And SDP playing it up to incite "Hatred between Palestinian supporters against Singapore govt." with misleading headlines.
That concern everyone safety living in Singapore.
Singapore Support helping Palestine's hardships in the Gaza War. We also go for 2 states solution. Voted against violence in Gaza at UN and seek for peaceful settlement.
SDP intentionally advertising Singapore govt "Charge Palestine Supporters", which in not true at all.
They are charged under Illegal organising public march into sensitive zone and public demonstration.
Not for Supporting Palestine.
(30-06-2024, 11:26 AM)Huliwang Wrote: Yalor, SDP is trying to make this into a geopolitical issue to cause bad blood between Singapore and some Islamic and other countries. This is very reckless and dangerous from making a local procession
without permit issue to a Palestinian issue. Really knnah.
(30-06-2024, 09:38 AM)sgbuffett Wrote: POFMA us a stupid.law implemented by the PAP to distort the truth.
Did people read the article before commenting this is the reason POFMA
Read the above carefully.
Fact is :
"The women were charged for.organising a procession yo Istana".
This statement from.SDP is actually true:
"They were charged for organising support for...."
The procession is to support the Palestinian people ..they were charged for "organising"....all this is true.
I take it they are not happy with the second part "for Palestianian People".
It's like this statement :
"John is charged for stealing an apple to give to his hungry mother".
It says is charged for stealing an apple.
It does not say he is charged for giving the apple to his mom.
Similarly the SDP statement is factual ..."The women were charged for organising..." the statement does not say they were charged for "supporting Palestinian people".
POFMA is a stupid law.
Often abused.
Used to make the opposition look bad.
Sad to say the PAP is destroying the people's right to speak up through its wrongful interpretation of what people write.
(30-06-2024, 11:26 AM)Huliwang Wrote: Yalor, SDP is trying to make this into a geopolitical issue to cause bad blood between Singapore and some Islamic and other countries. This is very reckless and dangerous from making a local procession
without permit issue to a Palestinian issue. Really knnah.
(30-06-2024, 11:29 AM)sgbuffett Wrote: Only misinterpretation of what SDP put out can lead to misunderstanding between countries.
People have eyes to see that illegal assembly laws were used against the women who happen to be supporters of the Palestinian cause.
The pap ability to misinterpret and extrapolate does not gives it right to pofma anyone.
While PAP govt has no ties and limited contact with Israeli out of respect for other countries, I feel more can be done to deal with the situation.
(30-06-2024, 11:29 AM)sgbuffett Wrote: Only misinterpretation of what SDP put out can lead to misunderstanding between countries.
People have eyes to see that illegal assembly laws were used against the women who happen to be supporters of the Palestinian cause.
(30-06-2024, 11:27 AM)sgbuffett Wrote: I am against the killing of civilians using Hamas as a justification.
If the most evil man like Hitler runs into a hospital to hide it doesn't mean you are justified to kill people in the hospital.
Demonising Hamas is a tactic to distract people from what the Israeli army is doing.
(30-06-2024, 11:31 AM)luncheonmeat Wrote: POFMA is a PAPaya tool of advantage to shtup dissenters who have erred on a technical basis. As in dis case, they were charged forThere are cases of pappies making mistakes in speeches and they simply apologised and calling to move-on. Aren’t they POFMA? Is just unfair play just becos they hv more muscles. Cannot POFMA papayas becos wil lose face and their skins are also too thick.
"In a media release on Saturday (Jun 29), the Ministry of Home Affairs (MHA) noted that the three women were charged with an offence under Section 15(1) of the Public Order Act 2009 for organising a procession in a prohibited area."
It does not matter if the apple was stolen to feed a poor person, the fact is the charge was for stealing an apple. SDP sentence implies that PAPAya charge was due to the zharbo steal to feed the hungry. Salah. The sentence should have had 2 components. Lawyer see liao can immediately point dis out and the charge would be thrown out and dismissed. You no watch LAW n Order?