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(09-04-2024, 10:31 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  If your woman does not have equal rights ....she will always be at the receiving end isn't it...and if your ego is not satisfied...what will you do my friend??

Even in your society where you give equal rights to her, will that stop an egoistic husband who is dissatisfied from taking it out on her?
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(09-04-2024, 10:26 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  If there are two platoon leaders, can the platoon work?

The female could be the platoon leader  Big Grin

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(09-04-2024, 10:32 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Are you egoistic? Is that why you are thinking like that?

I am egoistic? I am sorry for the Muslim wives who have to share their husband and yet don have equal rights....what a lose lose situation for them...
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(09-04-2024, 10:33 PM)Blasterlord2 Wrote:  As I've said, this one no need to convince me. Non-violence is one of the most important principles I follow, though in extreme situations there could be exceptions. I will not continue anymore with you on this topic.

I think you're a woman. I'll assume that.

If armed robbers come into your house, would you want your man to protect you? What about if violence is a necessary force to protect you? Are you still gonna say "No violence"?
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(09-04-2024, 10:36 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  I am egoistic? I am sorry for the Muslim wives who have to share their husband and yet don have equal rights....what a lose lose situation for them...

What if the man is a millionaire and he can lavish on his wives? How many women do you think would be lining up to be one of his wives?
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(09-04-2024, 10:34 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Even in your society where you give equal rights to her, will that stop an egoistic husband who is dissatisfied from taking it out on her?

If she has equal rights..she can beat the shit out of a egoistic husband..at least it will be a fair fight!

Not like your quran which required woman to be submissive and if they don just beat them up till they subdue

I think the shariah law is OK with the husband beating the wife...
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(09-04-2024, 10:35 PM)Blasterlord2 Wrote:  The female could be the platoon leader  Big Grin

Oh yes. I agree. When the man cannot lead, the woman should. I will feel sorry for the man though.
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(09-04-2024, 10:41 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  If she has equal rights..she can beat the shit out of a egoistic husband..at least it will be a fair fight!

Not like your quran which required woman to be submissive and if they don just beat them up till they subdue

Only in the Bible can we find that commandment, wife must submit to her husband, and must submit like the husband is God almighty. Read Ephesians 5.

Nothing like that in the Quran.
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(09-04-2024, 10:42 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Oh yes. I agree. When the man cannot lead, the woman should. I will feel sorry for the man though.

Feel sorry for what? You first tell me whether you believe that women have lower intellect than men.

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(09-04-2024, 10:47 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Only in the Bible can we find that commandment, wife must submit to her husband, and must submit like the husband is God almighty. Read Ephesians 5.

Nothing like that in the Quran.

Pls...
Times have changed my friend...woman are given equal rights.
Islam is backwards and still lepaking  Big Grin
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(09-04-2024, 10:40 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  What if the man is a millionaire and he can lavish on his wives? How many women do you think would be lining up to be one of his wives?

This is so wrong on all levels!
What are you smoking my friend?
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(09-04-2024, 10:48 PM)Blasterlord2 Wrote:  Feel sorry for what? You first tell me whether you believe that women have lower intellect than men.

Not at all. Intellect is the same for both. Some more, some less.

But the man has been given all the necessary equipment to lead. He is stronger. He is braver. He can go out and hunt effectively coz he has all the right instruments. He doesn't bleed once a month. I can go on and on.

So, the male is the natural leader. But when the male is incapacitated, the female must take over the role. That is why I will feel sorry for the male if he is incapacitated.
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(09-04-2024, 10:54 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  This is so wrong on all levels!
What are you smoking my friend?

And yet, you cannot even show me one level where it is wrong.
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(09-04-2024, 10:50 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Pls...
Times have changed my friend...woman are given equal rights.
Islam is backwards and still lepaking  Big Grin

Yes, times have changed for you. The Bible is no longer relevant. And you still wanna call yourself a Christian?

Pascal's wager is a fallacy but you don't know it.
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Ramadan is over. I can start watching this series, 3 body problem.

Anybody seen it yet?
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(09-04-2024, 10:40 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  What if the man is a millionaire and he can lavish on his wives? How many women do you think would be lining up to be one of his wives?

This is a life of a playboy....and more women lining up to be his wives and concubines?
Would you be happy knowing that your daughter was one of his wives?
Your daughter can only find solace in money and material needs!
That's why it is wrong on all levels!
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(09-04-2024, 11:00 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Not at all. Intellect is the same for both. Some more, some less.

But the man has been given all the necessary equipment to lead. He is stronger. He is braver. He can go out and hunt effectively coz he has all the right instruments. He doesn't bleed once a month. I can go on and on.

So, the male is the natural leader. But when the male is incapacitated, the female must take over the role. That is why I will feel sorry for the male if he is incapacitated.

Now fight a war no need to use strength already. There will be plenty of foot soldiers to do it. If the woman has higher intellect why can't she take the lead and strategise for the team? 

But as my usual belief, you can believe in whatever you want. No need to convince me. But I must tell you that your way of thinking is going to put people off. I'm not going to engage further with you on this topic.

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(09-04-2024, 11:12 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  This is a life of a playboy....and more women lining up to be his wives and concubines?
Would you be happy knowing that your daughter was one of his wives?
Your daughter can only find solace in money and material needs!
That's why it is wrong on all levels!

Concubines are not allowed in Islam. 

If my daughter is financially secure, why won't I be happy for her? She doesn't need to work. She can be a mother to her children. I'm sure she will be happy. Many women I know would want such a life.

The most satisfying job for a woman is raising her children. On top of that, she has a husband who would take care of her. That is where she can find solace when needed, which is gonna be rare.
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(09-04-2024, 11:12 PM)Blasterlord2 Wrote:  Now fight a war no need to use strength already. There will be plenty of foot soldiers to do it. If the woman has higher intellect why can't she take the lead and strategise for the team? 

If my wife has a higher intellect than me, and she said she does Big Grin , I will consult her when strategizing or making decisions. That is what a good leader would do. And I am still the leader. I am answerable to God, not her. Yes, that is our faith. 

You think suka suka become leader is it? The responsibility is tremendous.
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(09-04-2024, 11:29 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Concubines are not allowed in Islam. 

If my daughter is financially secure, why won't I be happy for her? She doesn't need to work. She can be a mother to her children. I'm sure she will be happy. Many women I know would want such a life.

The most satisfying job for a woman is raising her children. On top of that, she has a husband who would take care of her. That is where she can find solace when needed, which is gonna be rare.

I don know what to say ......it is almost depressing.
Your thinking is old fashion...I don think modern Muslims will agree with you.
You are just like the Father of Isabella who wants her to marry the rich guy to be financially secured..but she chose to be with Amy!
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(09-04-2024, 11:49 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  I don know what to say ......it is almost depressing.
Your thinking is old fashion...I don think modern Muslims will agree with you.
You are just like the Father of Isabella who wants her to marry the rich guy to be financially secured..but she chose to be with Amy!

I already told you. 

They will call us old fashion, or backward. I am fine with that. We don't want to go where you're going, to a god-less materialistic society. I don't want to be in such a society.
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(09-04-2024, 11:57 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  I already told you. 

They will call us old fashion, or backward. I am fine with that. We don't want to go where you're going, to a god-less materialistic society. I don't want to be in such a society.

If you were to stick to your own belief I'd be totally fine, but I got a feeling you want to convert all of us, by hook or by crook.

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(10-04-2024, 12:08 AM)Blasterlord2 Wrote:  If you were to stick to your own belief I'd be totally fine, but I got a feeling you want to convert all of us, by hook or by crook.

I cannot convert you. You can convert you. 

But I would like to pass on the message, from God.
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(09-04-2024, 10:33 PM)Blasterlord2 Wrote:  As I've said, this one no need to convince me. Non-violence is one of the most important principles I follow, though in extreme situations there could be exceptions. I will not continue anymore with you on this topic.

I did not see you speaking up when the Palestinians fired missiles, a few thousand of it, at Israel on 7 October last year wor.   Rolleyes

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(09-04-2024, 10:33 PM)Blasterlord2 Wrote:  As I've said, this one no need to convince me. Non-violence is one of the most important principles I follow, though in extreme situations there could be exceptions. I will not continue anymore with you on this topic.

I did not see you speaking up when the Palestinians fired missiles, a few thousand of it, at Israel on 7 October last year wor.   Rolleyes

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(09-04-2024, 11:57 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  I already told you. 

They will call us old fashion, or backward. I am fine with that. We don't want to go where you're going, to a god-less materialistic society. I don't want to be in such a society.

You alot of nonsenses lah....today is holiday..give your wife a break, be a good boy, cook for her or bring your family out for a meal.

Remember...when you talk to your children, let them speak up..Don instill fear, learn to respect what they think.
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(10-04-2024, 08:50 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:  You alot of nonsenses lah....today is holiday..give your wife a break, be a good boy, cook for her or bring your family out for a meal.

Remember...when you talk to your children, let them speak up..Don instill fear, learn to respect what they think.

Do you speak like that to your children? Is that why you think other people are like you?
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(10-04-2024, 08:49 AM)Oyk Wrote:  I did not see you speaking up when the Palestinians fired missiles, a few thousand of it, at Israel on 7 October last year wor.   Rolleyes

What's wrong with that?
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(10-04-2024, 08:59 AM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Do you speak like that to your children? Is that why you think other people are like you?

Tell me how a Muslim treats his family..I'm intrigued.
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(09-04-2024, 10:36 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  I am egoistic? I am sorry for the Muslim wives who have to share their husband and yet don have equal rights....what a lose lose situation for them...

What that mocker described is a patriarchy.

https://edition.cnn.com/2023/08/03/world...ale%20line.

Derived from the Greek word patriarkhēs, patriarchy literally means "the rule of the father" and is used to refer to a social system where men control a disproportionately large share of social, economic, political and religious power, and inheritance usually passes down the male line

He has five chewren, and it sure as hell would not have been easy to bring them up, especially after he quit his job because of the kind of arrogance (his own words, not mine) that you see here.  And he says, ah!  it's Allah's Will, so his wife cum maid cum sex slave had to just====> diam diam about it.

So his wife stayed at home to look after a brood of pigeons.

Why send women to school, you asked.  Well, if you think about it, it shouldn't be a bad idea if they send them to a madrasah if the woman can teach Islam to her pigeons because Ali has no time for that. You see, as a good Muslim, he is entitled to find three more wives (he will tell you that each of them must agree....but don't forget, he has a powerful fist to subdue them if needed. Don't try him).

And even though he trusted those potential wives to be bergins because he could not see their skin except for those on their hands and face (his words, not mine), he still needed to see if they were going to be submissive or if he would have to sock them in the face, one day.  Chances are those he met didn't attend a madrasah, ain't quite the idea of a submissive and subdued Muslim lady that he desired, but were rather WOKE, and good rape storytellers like "RK" which he who must not be mentioned (B) secretly desired and got mighty upset whenever she was being mentioned by Modiversal, whoever that is.

Sadly, he didn't make it to have even a second wife.  He's a loser lorh..  A man who could not provide for even one familee, no wonder he woke up screaming, many nights, and he blamed it on some out of body sexperience because apart from the pool of saliva, he realised that his member was "erect". Rolleyes

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